Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-20 Thread Dave Emery
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:40:26AM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:48:37PM -0500, Dave Emery wrote: > > I might hasten to add that as I am sure Declan knows, this > > addition to the Homeland Defense Act also includes the CSEA provisions > > that turn hobby listening

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:48:37PM -0500, Dave Emery wrote: > I might hasten to add that as I am sure Declan knows, this > addition to the Homeland Defense Act also includes the CSEA provisions > that turn hobby listening to certain easy to receive but off limit > radio signals from an offens

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-17 Thread Dave Emery
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:20:42PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: > At 11:59 PM 11/15/2002 -0500, Dave Emery wrote: > >And I am on record as advising some of the folks doing gnu-radio > >that in my personal opinion it was rather unlikely that a user > >programmable open source software radio wo

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Steve Schear
At 11:59 PM 11/15/2002 -0500, Dave Emery wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 08:01:08PM -0800, Tim May wrote: Whilst hardly (understatement of the year) a Washington insider, I would speculate that perhaps someone in the DOJ has gotten concerned about recent white hat hacker projects like gru-r

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Dave Emery
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 08:01:08PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > > And software-defined radios, which are now coming from at least two > sources, will make this even easier. Indeed, "trespassing" into the Big > Brother-owned frequencies will be even easier. > > We may even see SDRs outlawed from the

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Tim May
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 07:48 PM, Dave Emery wrote: I might hasten to add that as I am sure Declan knows, this addition to the Homeland Defense Act also includes the CSEA provisions that turn hobby listening to certain easy to receive but off limit radio signals from an offense with a m

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-16 Thread Dave Emery
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 12:11:35PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:09:37AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > > Holy Shit! > > > > Does that mean that some 18-year-old script kiddie could get LIFE? > > Yes, that's what the law says. Has to be a malicious attack, etc. I linke

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-15 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:09:37AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > Holy Shit! > > Does that mean that some 18-year-old script kiddie could get LIFE? Yes, that's what the law says. Has to be a malicious attack, etc. I linked to the text of the bill -- you may want to read the gory details for yoursel

Re: News: House votes life sentences for hackers (fwd)

2002-11-15 Thread Tyler Durden
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