Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-20 Thread rlhobday
Aurélien, you seem to have put your finger on the issues. Very well observed, it would be good to think that users feedback was considered. Sent from Workspace ONE Boxer On 20 Apr 2019 11:41, Aurélien Pierre wrote: Hi, I second that. I tend to avoid every distraction while working and pref

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-20 Thread Aurélien Pierre
Hi, I second that. I tend to avoid every distraction while working and prefer non-real time communication channels, especially when I'm not on a GMT±1 timezone (most dt's devs are EU-based, so IRC disadvantages Americas, Asia, Australia, NZ, etc.). Also, some skilled devs are not fluent enough in

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread parafin
I think we mix up 2 (or 3) different things in this topic. Let's say a contributor wants to implement some feature: First some discussion should probably happen, for example other developers can help with pointers on how said feature can and should be integrated into DT core. I don't see any need

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread William Ferguson
We are facing the same issue, where to discuss things, with the lua-scripts repository. We've thought about using github issues and discuss.pixls.us, but we still haven't come up with a solution. I think I'm just going to try the github issues and see how it goes. Bill On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 1

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread Pascal Obry
Le mercredi 17 avril 2019 à 14:12 -0300, Moritz Moeller a écrit : > But I agree with parent that it is not the right tool to discuss big > changes. > IRC has no history. IRC has no message threads. > That's why I mentioned NNTP. My first best is GitHub Issues. You create an enhancement request t

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread Moritz Moeller
On 17.4.19 09:16, johannes hanika wrote: i second the 'getting old' bit. and i really like IRC. Maybe you misunderstood my message's intend? Yes, I too prefer IRC over any 'modern' chat client. But I agree with parent that it is not the right tool to discuss big changes. IRC has no histor

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread Pascal Obry
Le mercredi 17 avril 2019 à 08:47 -0400, Mark Feit a écrit : > PRs shouldn't exist until there's code to be pulled. Sometimes there's > discussion about a project before anyone writes a single line. I just don't agree. Many nice dt features won't have been created otherwise. Many people like dt,

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread Mark Feit
On 4/16/19 1:51 PM, rawfiner wrote: Using github by commenting directly on PRs I'm in favor of this with some modifications with the mailing list as a second choice.  IRC is too ephemeral without logging and conversations can go on for days and end up intermixed with other topics, making it

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread Šarūnas
On 4/16/19 11:46 PM, Moritz Moeller wrote: > There is this thing called 'a news server' which has all of below > but has infinite history (for free) and you can actually see who > replied to whom before even opening/deciding to read a message. > > That feature alone makes a news server with a dece

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread johannes hanika
i second the 'getting old' bit. and i really like IRC. i could never get the hang of these fancy websites that force you to use a mouse. for slack at least there used to be an IRC bridge. it seems mattermost may be an alternative that does support IRC, for those of us who insist on animated gifs fo

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-17 Thread Heiko Bauke
Hi, Am 16.04.19 um 19:51 schrieb rawfiner: Currently, the place where big changes should be discussed is IRC (according to houz, as I have not seen this information anywhere, which is problematic as new contributors may make big changes, so they have at least to be able to know where is the pl

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-16 Thread Moritz Moeller
There is this thing called 'a news server' which has all of below but has infinite history (for free) and you can actually see who replied to whom before even opening/deciding to read a message. That feature alone makes a news server with a decent client (e.g. Thunderbird) a thousand times sup

Re: [darktable-dev] where to discuss big changes

2019-04-16 Thread Juha Lintula
Hi, I have one addition to the list. I haven't been part of the dev team so I'm not offended, if my proposal won't be considered. We have been using in our company's context slack for discussions and information exchange. There are also other similar alternatives available. pros: – discussions