Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread I. Ivanov
The Gimp plug-in descreen works in the frequency domain by means of a fourier decomposition. I think, darktable has means to do this too, but I don't know how or if the pixel patches aren't simply too large. Exactly in commercial print - all dots are at 100% density. They are smaller or

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread David Vincent-Jones
A starting point would be to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzVXK4eAM5E This is quite old but still very valid . have you seen this?? On 08/31/2018 01:44 PM, ternaryd wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:25:31 -0700 > David Vincent-Jones wrote: > >> Since the Gimp process is using FFT

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread David Vincent-Jones
There are some good on-line tutorials and ... Step #1 read the manual. On 08/31/2018 01:44 PM, ternaryd wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:25:31 -0700 > David Vincent-Jones wrote: > >> Since the Gimp process is using FFT ... using >> the equalizer in dt could provide similar >> results. >>

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread ternaryd
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:25:31 -0700 David Vincent-Jones wrote: > Since the Gimp process is using FFT ... using > the equalizer in dt could provide similar > results. > Did you try that and what was the result? No, I did not. I guess there is some understanding of it I'm lacking...

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread David Vincent-Jones
The dt equalizer is using Fourier Transform as is the Gimp process you may need to understand how it works to get a reasonable result rather than relying on 'pushing-a-button' and expecting results. On 08/31/2018 01:26 PM, ternaryd wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 15:27:53 -0400 > Michael

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread ternaryd
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 15:27:53 -0400 Michael wrote: > follow the thread? > https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60637838 I hadn't, but did now. There is a second suggestion with denoise non-local means, which I also tried unsuccessfully. I believe that those solutions are for a different

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread David Vincent-Jones
Since the Gimp process is using FFT ... using the equalizer in dt could provide similar results. Did you try that and what was the result? On 08/31/2018 11:12 AM, Michael wrote: > it looked as if descreen got rid of pattern noise (or what could be > interpretted as). > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread Michael
a quick search revealed: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60633401 On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:27 PM, ternaryd wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:12:58 -0400 > Michael wrote: > > > it looked as if descreen got rid of pattern > > noise (or what could be > interpretted as). > > Yes. Can that be

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread ternaryd
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:12:58 -0400 Michael wrote: > it looked as if descreen got rid of pattern > noise (or what could be > interpretted as). Yes. Can that be removed in darktable? darktable user mailing list to

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread ternaryd
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:14:35 -0700 "I. Ivanov" wrote: > To my best knowledge - it is not possible to > use Gimp plug-in in darktable. I didn't expect a Gimp plug-in itself to work in darktable, but hoped there is something in darktable allowing me to achieve the same or a similar effect.

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread I. Ivanov
Hence, my question: Can the descreen operation of that Gimp plug-in been done in darktable? A demonstration of this operation can be seen for instance on http://www.zoyinc.com/?p=1529 To my best knowledge - it is not possible to use Gimp plug-in in darktable. I have never seen a plugin in

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread Michael
it looked as if descreen got rid of pattern noise (or what could be interpretted as). On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * ternaryd [08-31-18 14:04]: > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:16:21 -0400 > > Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > Is there a method in darktable to do

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* ternaryd [08-31-18 14:04]: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:16:21 -0400 > Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > Is there a method in darktable to do undestructibly what the > > > descreen plug-in does in Gimp? > > > > operations in dt are non-destructive to your original image. period. > > Hence, my

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread ternaryd
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:16:21 -0400 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > Is there a method in darktable to do > > undestructibly what the descreen plug-in > > does in Gimp? > > operations in dt are non-destructive to your > original image. period. Hence, my question: Can the descreen operation of that

[darktable-user] Is there a way to keep on adding spot removal areas, instead of one by one?

2018-08-31 Thread kneops
When using tools like the spot removal or drawn masks (like with the pencil icon), as far as I know you have to this one by one. Add one, then click again on the same icon to add another one etc. etc. Is there a way, perhaps a key combination I missed, to keep on adding them in one flow? Like

Re: [darktable-user] Substracting and adding drawn masks

2018-08-31 Thread kneops
Incredible :) Yes, this works. Thanks Remco. Would be nice though to have these kind of functions right where the rest is, or with a plus and minus sign to choose how the next aplied mask is going to behave on the first one created. Jack Op 31-08-18 om 15:50 schreef Remco Viëtor: On

Re: [darktable-user] descreen

2018-08-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* ternaryd [08-31-18 09:35]: > Hi, > > Is there a method in darktable to do > undestructibly what the descreen plug-in does in > Gimp? operations in dt are non-destructive to your original image. period. unless you *overwrite* the original, but that is your doing, not dt. -- (paka)Patrick

Re: [darktable-user] Substracting and adding drawn masks

2018-08-31 Thread Remco Viëtor
On vendredi 31 août 2018 14:07:58 CEST kneops wrote: > Am I right in understanding that I can combine one (set of) drawn masks > with a parametric mask, but that I cannot add or substract one drawn > mask from another drawn mask? > > I'm thinking of the way selections work in other software where

Re: [darktable-user] Substracting and adding drawn masks

2018-08-31 Thread Timothy Spear
Not sure it works in all cases. But I did do the same thing with exposure, albeit it was not a strong adjustment (exposure was +0.5 on a gredient). Because I did it via two modules, and the way the pixel pipe works, there likely is the potential for data loss and not get a "perfect reversal". In

[darktable-user] Substracting and adding drawn masks

2018-08-31 Thread kneops
Am I right in understanding that I can combine one (set of) drawn masks with a parametric mask, but that I cannot add or substract one drawn mask from another drawn mask? I'm thinking of the way selections work in other software where you can add or substract a new selection from an already