Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-20 Thread Christian Mandel
Am 18.04.2015 20:56, schrieb Steven Fosdick: > On 17 April 2015 at 10:30, Michael Below wrote: > >> Maybe you should import only the RAW into darktable? There is an option for >> that in the importer. >> >> As I understand it, RAW+jpg is meant so that you have a jpg right away (for >> quick social

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-20 Thread Rob Z. Smith
reading a description of such workflow processes in the manual would run a mile and pick some other program to use. -Original Message- From: Torsten Bronger [mailto:bron...@physik.rwth-aachen.de] Sent: 19 April 2015 15:42 To: darktable-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Darktable

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-19 Thread Riley Brandt
"b) Improve metadata editor (bigger space for description field with multiple lines)." I agree with this idea completely. Lightroom has the same problem. I add a lot of cutline information to my images and one short line is not enough. Riley On 15-04-19 01:16 PM, Halgeir Kjønås Rennehvammen w

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-19 Thread Halgeir Kjønås Rennehvammen
Agree. Raw+Jpg groups are good enough. There are other ways to make the lighttable better workflow better to identify images faster: a) Better hierarchical tag module. b) Improve metadata editor (bigger space for description field with multiple lines). c) Show more custom info values (can be

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-19 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Stefan Klinger writes: > [...] > >>> Maybe one can allow tags to carry (primitive) information (maybe >>> it's possible already, but I did not see this), or, allow the >>> user to add image properties just as tags can be added. Via >>> this, grouping could be implemented as a special

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-19 Thread Stefan Klinger
Hi, On 2015-Apr-19, Torsten Bronger wrote with possible deletions: > Stefan Klinger writes: > > Thus I'd like to propose the following for the short term: > > > > * Leave the group mechanics (with image_id and group_id) as it is > > for now. > > > > * Selecting a collapsed group selects al

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-19 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Stefan Klinger writes: > [...] > > Thus I'd like to propose the following for the short term: > > * Leave the group mechanics (with image_id and group_id) as it is > for now. > > * Selecting a collapsed group selects all group members. > That's the change Tobias has suggest

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-19 Thread Stefan Klinger
Hmmm, the more I think about groups, the more awkward they appear to me. As I've pointed out the mechanics might allow for nested groups, and also the idea of directories is showing up in this discussion: On 2015-Apr-19, Romano Giannetti wrote with possible deletions: > On a second thought, I thi

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-19 Thread Romano Giannetti
On 18/04/15 07:58, Torsten Bronger wrote: > Tobias Ellinghaus writes: > >> [...] >> >> - rating/rejecting an image does the same to all images in the >> group iff the group is collapsed. >> > [...] Maybe I have a too strong hacking background, but I > consider image groups like a directory: If I r

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-18 Thread Steven Fosdick
On 17 April 2015 at 10:30, Michael Below wrote: > Maybe you should import only the RAW into darktable? There is an option for > that in the importer. > > As I understand it, RAW+jpg is meant so that you have a jpg right away (for > quick social media sharing or something like that) and a RAW to e

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-18 Thread Michael Below
Am Samstag, den 18.04.2015, 11:26 +0200 schrieb Sebastian: > Hi, > > On 04/18/2015 07:58 AM, Torsten Bronger wrote: > > Tobias Ellinghaus writes: > > > >> - rating/rejecting an image does the same to all images in the > >> group iff the group is collapsed. > >> > >> Would that be enough? I definit

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-18 Thread Stefan Klinger
On 2015-Apr-17, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote with possible deletions: > > * How is a group (conceptually) defined? > > It's just a tool, there is no inherent meaning to it. > > > * How is it implemented, i.e., where is the information stored > > which images belong to the same group? > > Ever

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-18 Thread Sebastian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 04/18/2015 07:58 AM, Torsten Bronger wrote: > Tobias Ellinghaus writes: > >> - rating/rejecting an image does the same to all images in the >> group iff the group is collapsed. >> >> Would that be enough? I definitely don't want to remove or

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Tobias Ellinghaus writes: > [...] > > - rating/rejecting an image does the same to all images in the > group iff the group is collapsed. > > Would that be enough? I definitely don't want to remove or delete > the linked images, and even color labels are probably not > appropriate, not

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Romano Giannetti
On 17/04/15 21:51, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > - rating/rejecting an image does the same to all images in the group iff the > group is collapsed. > That would be great for my raw+jpg workflow; I could do the culling in DT finally. > Would that be enough? I definitely don't want to remove or de

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Freitag, 17. April 2015, 20:08:27 schrieb Stefan Klinger: > On 2015-Apr-17, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote with possible deletions: > > We are reading, there is already > > http://www.darktable.org/redmine/issues/8968 and I might rethink the > > issue. > > Ah, sorry, did not find it beforehand. Seems

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Stefan Klinger
On 2015-Apr-17, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote with possible deletions: > We are reading, there is already > http://www.darktable.org/redmine/issues/8968 and I might rethink the > issue. Ah, sorry, did not find it beforehand. Seems to be discussed quite a bit, with interesting aspects showing up. Shall

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Freitag, 17. April 2015, 18:45:49 schrieb Stefan Klinger: > Thanks for the many replies, > > I certainly wanted to avoid the raw vs. raw+jpeg discussion. IMHO, > Darktable should provide efficient means to support both. My personal > reason is that I'm not good enough a photo finisher to alwa

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Stefan Klinger
Thanks for the many replies, I certainly wanted to avoid the raw vs. raw+jpeg discussion. IMHO, Darktable should provide efficient means to support both. My personal reason is that I'm not good enough a photo finisher to always produce better results than the camera, let alone the effort/benefit

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Pascal Obry writes: > 2015-04-17 11:46 GMT+02:00 Torsten Bronger : > >> I shoot RAW+JPEG for being able to decide which I'd like too >> keep. > > I understand that everyone can have its own workflow... > > But to me the answer to your question is the RAW. Which question? How to deal

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Rob Z. Smith
them within lt. Simplicity usually rules :-) -Original Message- From: Romano Giannetti [mailto:romanof...@rgtti.com] Sent: 17 April 2015 11:02 To: darktable-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable On 17/04/15 11:34, Torsten Bronger

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Romano Giannetti
On 17/04/15 11:34, Torsten Bronger wrote: > Fair enough, but the inconveniences that the OP and myself > experience arise from the RAW+JPEG workflow. > Yes, and it could be solved with an option to apply ratings to all the grouped images. I tried to create a LUA extension but failed. I, myself,

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Romano Giannetti
On 17/04/15 11:34, Torsten Bronger wrote: > Fair enough, but the inconveniences that the OP and myself > experience arise from the RAW+JPEG workflow. > Yes, and it could be solved with an option to apply ratings to all the grouped images. I tried to create a LUA extension but failed. I, myself,

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Pascal Obry
2015-04-17 11:46 GMT+02:00 Torsten Bronger : > I shoot RAW+JPEG for being able to decide which I'd like too keep. I understand that everyone can have its own workflow... But to me the answer to your question is the RAW. With the RAW you can always create an equivalent JPEG from the camera, it ha

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Michael Below writes: > Maybe you should import only the RAW into darktable? There is an > option for that in the importer. I shoot RAW+JPEG for being able to decide which I'd like too keep. Tschö, Torsten. -- Torsten BrongerJabber ID: torsten.bron...@jabber.rwth-aachen.de --

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Thorsten . Ohl
"Michael Below" wrote: > As I understand it, RAW+jpg is meant so that you have a jpg right away (for > quick social media sharing or something like that) and a RAW to edit later, > right? Not necessarily: in my case, I use jpg+RAW, because I'm content with the ooc jpg most of the time (say 95%),

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Michael Below
Nachricht- Von: Torsten Bronger [mailto:bron...@physik.rwth-aachen.de] Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2015 11:13 An: darktable-users@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable Hallöchen! Rob Z. Smith writes: > My simplistic approach, which works w

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Rob Z. Smith writes: > Raw only. I view raw+jpeg as counter productive. Fair enough, but the inconveniences that the OP and myself experience arise from the RAW+JPEG workflow. Tschö, Torsten. -- Torsten BrongerJabber ID: torsten.bron...@jabber.rwth-aachen.de

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Pascal Obry
2015-04-17 11:19 GMT+02:00 Rob Z. Smith : > Raw only. I view raw+jpeg as counter productive. I agree 100% -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://v2p.fr.eu.org http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F9

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Rob Z. Smith
Raw only. I view raw+jpeg as counter productive. -Original Message- From: Torsten Bronger [mailto:bron...@physik.rwth-aachen.de] Sent: 17 April 2015 10:13 To: darktable-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable Hallöchen! Rob Z

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Rob Z. Smith writes: > My simplistic approach, which works well for me, is to load the film roll into > lighttable and then do a first pass rejecting anything plainly bad and not > worth further inspection, then select and delete the rejects. > > After that I'll view in more detail the

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-17 Thread Rob Z. Smith
ailto:bron...@physik.rwth-aachen.de] Sent: 17 April 2015 06:17 To: darktable-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable Hallöchen! Stefan Klinger writes: > [...] > > I have not yet figured out howto efficently delete (or move to a trash >

Re: [Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-16 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Stefan Klinger writes: > [...] > > I have not yet figured out howto efficently delete (or move to a > trash directory) the shots of revolting ugliness. What exactly is > the process to get along here?? My favoured supported workflow in DT is the following: * group the images * rejec

[Darktable-users] Reject images workflow in lighttable

2015-04-16 Thread Stefan Klinger
Hi, I'm relatively new to darktable (3 Months), and still struggling with the workflow to trash the crappy shots after importing. I've set my my Nikon D7100 to produce raws (NEW) and jpegs, and I want to keep it that way. When looking through them in the lighttable module, I can select some of t