Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-19 Thread Nisha Thompson
Hey, I added a reference to Data.Gov.in's implementation guidelines which i think should be a good base. Section 3.2 http://data.gov.in/sites/default/files/NDSAP_Implementation_Guidelines_2.2.pdf Let me know what on top of this should we add. Nisha On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Nisha

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-12 Thread Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India)
Pdf became an open standard, yes. But the software required to ensure easy PDF/UA http://www.pdfa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PDFUA-in-a-Nutshell-PDFUA.pdfcreation (PDF accessibility for screen readers) is invariably paid i.e. Adobe Acrobat Pro. Else, training on the following will have to take

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-12 Thread Ma-roof M
I agree fully. I am as enraged by the pdfs as many others are :-) What can be more enraging than staring at a scanned pdf, with tables of numbers, which one is absolutely sure came out of a spreadsheet..?? I was hinting that if we say open standards, they could take recourse to the fact that pdf

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-12 Thread Chandrashekhar Raman
Want to echo the points made by a few folks on the 'tyranny of pdfs' I have spent countless hours with free trial versions of pdf to excel conversion software to wrangle election data from pdfs available online into a usable excel format (or csv). and in the process infected my computer with

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-12 Thread Nisha Thompson
Hey All, We have done a few things in the past with the NIC specifically this list of data standards http://datameet.org/standards-for-data/ Feedback to NDSAP http://datameet.org/wiki/responsetondsap But nothing in terms of a DataMeet standards for open data. Maybe we can put together a few

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-12 Thread Dilip Damle
hi all, I personally feel this about PDF It may have become an open format. However this 'open' is relevant more for the people developing software for and around pdf. For a user it IS a good format for Viewing and Printing anything. However if you want to use and further process the contents

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-12 Thread Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India)
Nisha, Happy to help but I don't know much barring a bit about web accessibility from the disability perspective. Can research, collate etc - let me know. --- *VAISHNAVI JAYAKUMAR* http://about.me/vjayakumar On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Nisha Thompson

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-12 Thread Nisha Thompson
Thanks all for the feedback! I'll tweak the letter and get started on an outline for standards and send it out to people to help! Vaishnavi, Web accessibility to everyone is really important and should definitely not be overlooked so your background is necessary! Nisha On Tue, Aug 12, 2014

[datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-11 Thread Nisha Thompson
Hey All, Even though it has been awhile I think it is still important we send this letter. Last round of feedback and then we'll send it out! http://datameet.org/wiki/odclettertoecidraft Nisha -- Nisha Thompson DataMeet.org ni...@datameet.org skype: nishaqt mobile: 962-061-2245 -- Datameet

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-11 Thread Rajesh D Hanbal
Nisha, How does our request fit with the NDSAP? Does it deal only with Dept of S T or does it apply to all departments? http://www.dst.gov.in/nsdi.html : Global experience has demonstrated convincingly that access to data leads to breakthroughs in scientific understanding as well as to

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-11 Thread Nisha Thompson
That's a really good question. I can see them making a point that they comply because a great deal of their data is online in some fashion, just not machine readable or easy to find. Also they don't have a data controller registered with the NIC: http://data.gov.in/datacontrollers It is unclear

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-11 Thread Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India)
Are there no guidelines in existence for what formats need to be used for data / information sharing? If data is open, isn't it necessarily in open formats? Echo that the letter needs to be sent. But Datameet should next prioritise advocating for standard open formats for information sharing at

Re: [datameet] 3rd and final? draft to the ECI letter

2014-08-11 Thread Ma-roof M
for that matter, pdf is an open standard. So are office formats since v2007 (office open xml). We might want to specifically address the issue of the image-pdf menace. Kind Regards Mahroof Knowledge, that is *discovered*, lasts a