Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread denis walker via db-wg
HI Cynthia On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 17:43, Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote: > > Hi db-wg, > > I just want to start out by saying that I support efforts to try to better > understand and document this. > What I don't (currently) support is changing DB policy (policy in the form of > RIPE documents

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread George Michaelson via db-wg
I suggest that this is not just a localized decision of the db-wg, but has global implications. You are discussing a field whose value is interpreted both directly from WHOIS and RDAP, and less directly from delegated files in the registry system across all the RIR. Your consumers are my consumers,

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread Leo Vegoda via db-wg
Hi, I strongly support what George has written. On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 14:29, George Michaelson via db-wg wrote: [...] > I don't necessarily disagree with you about the risks here, but I > suggest that the decision to deprecate or alter behavior with this > field is not something which a single

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread denis walker via db-wg
Hi George Thanks for your comments. Of course global context is important in these situations and I appreciate you raising this issue. It says in the file: https://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/RIR-Statistics-Exchange-Format.txt 3.3 Record format: ... cc= ISO 3166 2-letter count

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread denis walker via db-wg
Hi Leo On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 23:51, Leo Vegoda wrote: > > Hi, > > I strongly support what George has written. > > On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 14:29, George Michaelson via db-wg > wrote: > > [...] > > > I don't necessarily disagree with you about the risks here, but I > > suggest that the decision to

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread Leo Vegoda via db-wg
Hi Denis, On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 16:20, denis walker wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 14:29, George Michaelson via db-wg > > wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > I don't necessarily disagree with you about the risks here, but I > > > suggest that the decision to deprecate or alter behavior with this >

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread Randy Bush via db-wg
> I suggest that this is not just a localized decision of the db-wg, but > has global implications. +1, and this aside from the idea having other fatal flaws, as discussed here before. randy -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread denis walker via db-wg
Hi Leo >From my perspective as an analyst it's getting interesting now... Yes we can consider it as a complex problem needing a complex solution...but are either really complex? Maybe it is the environment that is complex and not this specific problem or solution. On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 at 01:29, Leo

Re: [db-wg] country codes in the RIPE Database (was: ORGANISATION country code)

2023-03-07 Thread denis walker via db-wg
Hi Randy On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 at 03:11, Randy Bush wrote: > > > I suggest that this is not just a localized decision of the db-wg, but > > has global implications. > > +1, and this aside from the idea having other fatal flaws, as discussed > here before. Can you please be a little more specific? W