Hi Denis,
> I am an 'active' co-chair. I strongly resent the implication from both
> you and Randy that I am an 'activist' co-chair. An activist is "a
> person who uses or supports strong actions (such as public protests)
> to help make changes in politics or society". Completely inappropriate
> l
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 08:44:14PM +0100, Sylvain Baya via db-wg wrote:
> 1. remove your Co-chair hat
> 2. submit a formal proposal
> {other Co-chairs would drive discussions
> regarding that proposal.}
> 3. i am open to discuss it.
So, instead of telling Denis what not to do - why don't you
Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 19:09, denis walker via db-wg a
écrit :
> [...]
>
> I accept that there are old fashioned, tried and tested, well
> documented ways of doing things. But society changes over time. The
> co-chairs must also evolve their methods of working to handle the
> situation they are
Hi Nick
I am not interested in google searches for rules of parliamentary
committees. I am interested in RIPE specific documented rules. The
parliamentary committee situations you referred to are generally
formal, in person meetings where a single person has been appointed as
the president or chai
denis walker wrote on 21/07/2023 06:22:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 16:41, Nick Hilliard via db-wg wrote:
the job of a chair is to ensure that the business of the forum is done,
in an orderly and efficient way.
Where is this stated?
Denis,
It's stated in pretty much every formal description of
Hi Niall
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 16:19, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
>
> Hi, Denis.
>
> On 19 Jul 2023, at 18:41, denis walker via db-wg wrote:
>
> > One or two vocal members of this community frequently express their
> > opinion that all WG chairs should sit silently in the background, post
> > an occas
Hi Nick
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 16:41, Nick Hilliard via db-wg wrote:
>
>
> the job of a chair is to ensure that the business of the forum is done,
> in an orderly and efficient way.
Where is this stated?
> From this point of view, an "active"
> chair is good, and to be welcomed. What isn't ok
Randy Bush via db-wg wrote on 20/07/2023 00:22:
I approve of more active WG management for the good of the internet.
i do not.
i am ok with a co-chair explicitly taking their co-chair hat off and
having an opinion with the same weight as everyone else.
i am as happy with activist wg-chairs as
Hi, Denis.
On 19 Jul 2023, at 18:41, denis walker via db-wg wrote:
> One or two vocal members of this community frequently express their
> opinion that all WG chairs should sit silently in the background, post
> an occasional review and wait to declare consensus or not.
Citations would help me,
> I approve of more active WG management for the good of the internet.
i do not.
i am ok with a co-chair explicitly taking their co-chair hat off and
having an opinion with the same weight as everyone else.
i am as happy with activist wg-chairs as i am with activist us supreme
court justices. (
Hi Denis,
> So I think it is fair to say this is not an appropriate way of working
> with some WGs these days. I will now go back to my previous way of
> working where, as a co-chair, I do have an agenda - to get things
> done, for the good of the internet.
I approve of more active WG management
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 07:41:52PM +0200, denis walker via db-wg wrote:
> So I will continue to engage with the community, push out ideas (even
> crazy ideas sometimes), start and drive conversations until we get
> resolutions.
While I might not agree with some of the actual ideas pushed out
Colleagues
One or two vocal members of this community frequently express their
opinion that all WG chairs should sit silently in the background, post
an occasional review and wait to declare consensus or not. I am always
willing to try out ideas from the community. So for the last couple of
months
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