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2009-08-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Hugh Glaser wrote: > Hi Kingsley. > > On 12/08/2009 20:07, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote: > > >> Peter Ansell wrote: >> >>> 2009/8/12 Hugh Glaser : >>> >>> Are you saying that the only way to access Linked Data is via SPARQL? >>> That is going a bit far, but

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2009-08-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Peter / Hugh, Some additional qualification re. what constitutes Linked Data meme compatible data on HTTP based data networks such as the World Wide Web: Ability to de-reference a negotiated representation of the metadata for a given Entity (Data Item) via its HTTP URI. This implies that the me

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2009-08-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Peter Ansell wrote: > [SNIP] > I have been working on a system that can take notice of Named Graphs, > but it doesn't work with arbitrary URI's as it requires the URI's to > be normalised to some scheme that the software recognises. For > instance, the normalised form of http://dbpedia.org/resource

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2009-08-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Peter Ansell wrote: > 2009/8/12 Hugh Glaser : > >> Are you saying that the only way to access Linked Data is via SPARQL? >> > > That is going a bit far, but in the end if you want to allow people to > extend the model it has to be done using SPARQL. If the extension is > taken well by users

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2009-08-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Hugh Glaser wrote: > Hi Kingsley. > > On 12/08/2009 00:28, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote: > > >> Hugh Glaser wrote: >> >>> On 11/08/2009 15:47, "Pat Hayes" wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Chris Bizer wrote: > Hi Kingsley, Pat and all

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2009-08-11 Thread Peter Ansell
2009/8/12 Hugh Glaser : > Dear Peter, > Thank you for your comments, which I think raise the main issues. > > On 12/08/2009 01:11, "Peter Ansell" wrote: > >> 2009/8/12 Hugh Glaser : >>> Are you saying that the only way to access Linked Data is via SPARQL? >> >> That is going a bit far, but in the

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2009-08-11 Thread Peter Ansell
2009/8/12 Hugh Glaser : > Are you saying that the only way to access Linked Data is via SPARQL? That is going a bit far, but in the end if you want to allow people to extend the model it has to be done using SPARQL. If the extension is taken well by users then it could be included in what is resol

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2009-08-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Hugh Glaser wrote: > On 11/08/2009 15:47, "Pat Hayes" wrote: > > >> On Aug 11, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Chris Bizer wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Kingsley, Pat and all, >>> >>> > > >>> Everything on the Web is a claim by somebody. There are no facts, >>> there is >>> no truth, there are only opi

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2009-08-11 Thread Tim Finin
Kavitha Srinivas wrote: > Actually I wonder if it makes sense to annotate the relation with the > actual conditional probability as suggested by Tim. We found the > probabilities quite useful in different applications. If we go this > route we could also send you the set of types with very low

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2009-08-11 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
Actually I wonder if it makes sense to annotate the relation with the actual conditional probability as suggested by Tim. We found the probabilities quite useful in different applications. If we go this route we could also send you the set of types with very low probabilities -- which is ve

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2009-08-11 Thread Anja Jentzsch
Hi Kingsley, hi Kavitha, we will generate a new dump covering all YAGO Freebase relations with at least 95% probability, using skos:narrower as proposed by Tim. I will let you know, when the file is available for download. Cheers, Anja Kingsley Idehen schrieb: > Kavitha Srinivas wrote: >> I wil

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2009-08-11 Thread Chris Bizer
> von Kingsley Idehen > Gesendet: Montag, 10. August 2009 23:29 > An: Kavitha Srinivas > Cc: Tim Finin; Anja Jentzsch; public-...@w3.org; dbpedia- > discuss...@lists.sourceforge.net; Chris Bizer > Betreff: Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] Fwd: Your message to Dbpedia-discussion > awaits

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2009-08-10 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
Hello, fixed the URIs and the file is uploaded to the ftp server mentioned in the earlier email by Hugh Williams. Thanks Kavitha On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Kavitha Srinivas wrote: >> I will fix the URIs.. I believe the equivalenceClass assertions >> were added in by

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Kavitha Srinivas wrote: > I will fix the URIs.. I believe the equivalenceClass assertions were > added in by someone at OpenLink (I just sent the raw file with the > conditional probabilities for each pair of types that were above the > .80 threshold). So can whoever uploaded the file fix the p

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Kavitha Srinivas wrote: > Yes will fix URIs and load to the ftp server. Sorry about that issue. Not a problem. In fact, a very cool real world example of Linked Data Web issues e.g., why partitioning by Named Graphs is important :-) Kingsley > Kavitha > On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Kingsley Ideh

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2009-08-10 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
I will fix the URIs.. I believe the equivalenceClass assertions were added in by someone at OpenLink (I just sent the raw file with the conditional probabilities for each pair of types that were above the . 80 threshold). So can whoever uploaded the file fix the property to what Tim suggest

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2009-08-10 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
Yes will fix URIs and load to the ftp server. Sorry about that issue. Kavitha On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Pat Hayes wrote: >> This website should be taken down immediately, before it does >> serious harm. It is irresponsible to publish such off-the-wall >> equivalent

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Kavitha Srinivas wrote: > Agree completely -- which is why I sent a base file which had the > conditional probabilities, the mapping, and the values to be able to > compute marginals. > About the URIs, I should have added in my email that because freebase > types are not URIs, and have types suc

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Pat Hayes wrote: > This website should be taken down immediately, before it does serious > harm. It is irresponsible to publish such off-the-wall equivalentClass > assertions. The presence or absence of hierarchies, or the similarity > to tags, are completely irrelevant: the semantics of > owl:

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2009-08-10 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
Agree completely -- which is why I sent a base file which had the conditional probabilities, the mapping, and the values to be able to compute marginals. About the URIs, I should have added in my email that because freebase types are not URIs, and have types such as /people/person, we added a

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2009-08-10 Thread Jamie Taylor
Kavitha, I agree with Kingsley et al. - very cool stuff indeed. It would be great to have these loaded into Freebase where everyone could continue to work on them as a community. You can write these into Freebase yourself (try loading against Sandbox first) - but I am happy to work with you i

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2009-08-10 Thread Tim Finin
Kavitha Srinivas wrote: > I understand what you are saying -- but some of this reflects the way > types are associated with freebase instances. The types are more like > 'tags' in the sense that there is no hierarchy, but each instance is > annotated with multiple types. So an artist would in

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2009-08-10 Thread Tim Finin
Kavitha Srinivas wrote: > I understand what you are saying -- but some of this reflects the way > types are associated with freebase instances. The types are more like > 'tags' in the sense that there is no hierarchy, but each instance is > annotated with multiple types. So an artist would in fac

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Tim Finin wrote: > >> Kingsley Idehen wrote: >> >>> Your dbpedia --> freebase type link mappings are now live re. the >>> public DBpedia instance. Very very cool stuff! >>> Graph IRI: >>> ... >>> >> I thought that t

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Tim Finin wrote: > Kingsley Idehen wrote: >> Your dbpedia --> freebase type link mappings are now live re. the >> public DBpedia instance. Very very cool stuff! >> Graph IRI: >> ... > > I thought that this would be super useful, but when I looked at the >

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2009-08-10 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
Hi Tim I understand what you are saying -- but some of this reflects the way types are associated with freebase instances. The types are more like 'tags' in the sense that there is no hierarchy, but each instance is annotated with multiple types. So an artist would in fact be annotate

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2009-08-10 Thread Tim Finin
Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Your dbpedia --> freebase type link mappings are now live re. the public > DBpedia instance. Very very cool stuff! > Graph IRI: > ... I thought that this would be super useful, but when I looked at the example in the message

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2009-08-10 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
This is great! Thanks! I posted this paper on Freebase but haven't really had any response... Kavitha On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Kavitha, > > Your dbpedia --> freebase type link mappings are now live re. the > public DBpedia instance. > > Very very cool stuff! >

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Kavitha, Your dbpedia --> freebase type link mappings are now live re. the public DBpedia instance. Very very cool stuff! Graph IRI: Example Links: 1. http://dbpedia.org/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fclass%2Fyago%2FNewYorkCityMusicians&uri

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2009-08-10 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Anja Jentzsch wrote: > Hi Kavitha, > > we just put your YAGO to Freebase correlations as NT on the DBpedia > download page: > http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Downloads33 > Thanks for your work on this! > > @Kingsley: Can you please load them into the SPARQL endpoint? Of course :-) Kingsley > > Cheers, >

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2009-08-10 Thread Anja Jentzsch
Hi Kavitha, we just put your YAGO to Freebase correlations as NT on the DBpedia download page: http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Downloads33 Thanks for your work on this! @Kingsley: Can you please load them into the SPARQL endpoint? Cheers, Anja Kavitha Srinivas schrieb: > Hi, I ended up canceling the p

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2009-08-09 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Kavitha Srinivas wrote: > Hi, I ended up canceling the post with the mapping because its too > big. Can you tell me where to put the files? > Thanks! > Kavitha Kavitha, Do you have an FTP server at your disposal? Kingsley > > Begin forwarded message: > >> *From: *dbpedia-discussion-boun...@list

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2009-08-09 Thread Kavitha Srinivas
Hi, I ended up canceling the post with the mapping because its too big. Can you tell me where to put the files? Thanks! Kavitha Begin forwarded message: From: dbpedia-discussion-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net Date: August 9, 2009 8:19:39 PM EDT To: ksrin...@gmail.com Subject: Your message to