Hi Tom,
On May 28, 2024, at 08:40, Tom Moore wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have noticed Speakup being unstable on Arm64 as well.
> This seems to be limited to this arch from what I can tell.
> Amd64 works fine.
> One thing I notice is that the first 10th of a second or so the speech
> cuts off.
> For
On Mar 21, 2024, at 13:39, Chime Hart wrote:
>
> Well Geoff, I wonder if speakupconf only has an affect on software speech?
> Anyway, as I have mentioned in multiple lists since 2003, I have a DecTalk
> USB, similar to an Express. The settings in dectlk.c are not what I want.
> While reading,
> On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:51, Geoff Shang wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>
>> Hi, I was wondering what is the proper method as I can not locate any
>> documentation on how to change things like rate and volume and pitch
>> automatically when the system boots as there
Waking up this thread.
Samuel and others. Please let us know what we can do to help get this one
sorted.
Thanks so much.
--FC
> On Jan 23, 2024, at 08:20, Geoff Shang wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
>> Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 15:04:22 +0200, a ecrit:
>>>
Samuel,
I know that I don't have anything interesting about my alsa config. I'd try
your new espeak packages but I'm on arm64. My bookworm system was built from
your modified debian installer.
I have just built a trixie arm64 machine today, if that would be more helpful.
Best,
--FC
On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:54, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Geoff Shang, le jeu. 21 déc. 2023 19:39:42 +0200, a ecrit:
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>
>>> thread apply all bt full
>>>
>>> :)
>>
>> OK, you got it.
>>
>> This produced 20 kb of output, so I've attached
On Dec 20, 2023, at 18:34, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> James Addison, le mer. 20 déc. 2023 23:03:33 +, a ecrit:
>> sthibault: do you think this could be related to
>> https://github.com/linux-speakup/espeakup/pull/48 ?
>
> Possibly. Testing would give a definite answer.
>
It took me a
> On Dec 20, 2023, at 13:21, Geoff Shang wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2023, James Addison wrote:
>
>> To do that, the first step is to enable a sources.list entry for debug
>> symbol packages, then to install the gdb and espeakup-dbgsym packages,
>> and then after the espeakup process stops
ug symbols packages help us trace the process when it locks up. I'll try
again to run the debugger, but I don't think much has changed since I last
check four months ago.
--FC
>
> Tom
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Addison
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2023
> On Oct 22, 2023, at 10:18, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Note that you need to select the graphical boot entry in order to get
> speech support.
>
> Beeping might not be supported on the mac mini, but if it's grub, the
> "s" shortcut should be working.
None of the apple products
Susan,
> On Oct 19, 2023, at 11:41, john doe wrote:
>
> On 10/19/23 03:19, Susan Fowle wrote:
>> My blind husband, Tom, has used very old Debian version Jessie on a very old
>> machine for many years. Something finally broke or got corrupted.
>>
>> So we are planning to buy a new small
Hello Susan,
On Oct 18, 2023, at 21:19, Susan Fowle wrote:
>
> My blind husband, Tom, has used very old Debian version Jessie on a very old
> machine for many years. Something finally broke or got corrupted.
>
> So we are planning to buy a new small computer (Kingdel Desktop Computer,
>
Greetings,
I've been living with this for the last sixish months, and it's annoying. I
have a console where I can just up arrow and hit enter for
`killall -1 espeakup`
I would love to see this get fixed but I've gotten nowhere with debugging it.
I haven't tried Sam's recommendation of having
Hello David,
On Aug 3, 2023, at 11:46, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>
> Is there a tutorial for me to read to understand if additional Linux
> distributions installed on the same device need separate BIOS BOOT and EFI
> SYSTEM partitions in addition for a separate partition for that added Linux
>
th speakup running here also, but I tend not to use
them, as they aren't integrated in to my workflow. My real concern is if
speakup is going to be the terminal screenreader I use going forward?
I really appreciate the discussion.
Thank you,
--FC
>
> On 4/5/23 09:28, Frank Carmickle wr
Greetings Debian accessibility folk,
I'm finding that on power on the sound card is muted. It appears that alsactl
restore is being run, and even if I run it by hand it doesn't unmute the card.
It appears that the card is in a muted state even though alsa thinks that it is
not. Toggling the
On Apr 15, 2023, at 08:25, James Addison wrote:
>
>
> If you're using systemd to manage services on those hosts: does the
> system journal indicate any failures/restarts of the espeakup service?
No. Systemd only notices when I send the HUP signal.
Even when I run it in the foreground, and the
> On Apr 14, 2023, at 00:45, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Hope someone knows of some things to try.
> Debian Bull'seye.
> I don't know if Orca is working, the audio on the desktop does not work, but
> I got it working in SSH and Terminal.
> When I run spd-say test over SSH, I get this
On Apr 13, 2023, at 14:26, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
>>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Carmickle writes:
>
>Frank> Good day all, I'm pretty certain now that speech stops when
>Frank> doing screen review by character.
>
>Frank> Does anyone
Good day all,
I'm pretty certain now that speech stops when doing screen review by character.
Does anyone know what would be different about this that would make this happen?
I am on the latest, 0.90-13.
Thanks much,
--FC
On Apr 11, 2023, at 13:19, James Addison wrote:
> That could be a useful clue. Which of those three systems, if any,
> are multi-processor?
I suspected such a thing and so today I have been running the qemu arm64 system
with a single core. Quite unfortunately it still stops speaking. All of
On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:49, James Addison wrote:
>
> Yep, bugs with unpredictable timing can be particularly hard to track
> down. I noticed some references to process threads in one of your
> previous messages (the acronym nptl for native posix thread library)
> and also in the source code:
M
> name 'Playback Channel Map'
> value.0 3
> value.1 4
> comment {
> access read
> type INTEGER
> count 2
> range '0 - 36'
> }
> }
> control.2 {
> iface PCM
> name 'Capture Channel Map'
> value 0
> comment {
> access read
> type INTEGE
On Mar 29, 2023, at 17:55, James Addison wrote:
>
> Ok, that's cautiously promising.
I guess you missed my followup message that it still does stop speaking. I'm
trying to notice as much as I can about the environment when it stops speaking.
I do find that it stops speaking mostly when I am
On Mar 29, 2023, at 14:17, Frank Carmickle wrote:
> That appears to be a very good question, as when I specify a language at all
> it doesn't seem to stop speaking. I hadn't even realized that the system
> didn't have a value in the config, /etc/default/espeakup. I'll keep
On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:23, James Addison wrote:
>
> Ok. I'm not sure what to suggest in terms of build changes, so I'm wondering
> about other command-line options before learning more about the build.
>
> Does the problem occur when using different voices and languages?
That appears to be a
Glenn,
Send us the output of
lspci -k
As root do
alsactl store
and send us the contents of
/var/lib/alsa/asound.state
This should show all the known audio controls.
Best,
--FC
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 00:20, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
>
> Hi Jude,
> Here's an update.
> After stumbling around with
Hello James,
Thanks for this. It does not print any information when speaking stops. It
does print that it received the hangup signal, which is what I sent to kill the
process.
What shall we add to a build to gain more insight?
Thank you,
--FC
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 09:52, James Addison
On Mar 25, 2023, at 13:45, Jason White wrote:
>
> On 25/3/23 13:27, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>> That's nasty. What happens if you run Espeakup within gdb from the beginning?
>> It doesn't speak at all. I may just not know what I'm doing in the debugger.
> Did you use the
On Mar 22, 2023, at 18:12, Jason White wrote:
>
>
> On 22/3/23 15:33, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>> Here's the output inside gdb after espeakup stops talking.
>>
>> /build/gdb-yCDzia/gdb-13.1/gdb/thread.c:85: internal-error: inferior_thread:
>> Assertion `c
Greetings Jason et al.
On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:28, Jason White wrote:
> Can you log in remotely and attach gdb to the espeak process when it's not
> speaking but (obviously) before you kill it? Then obtain a backtrace. You
> might need to install debug symbols for espeakup. Debian has separate
can do to help track this bugger down!
Thanks,
--FC
> On Oct 28, 2022, at 14:51, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
>> On Oct 28, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>
>> Frank Carmickle, le ven. 28 oct. 2022 11:03:58 -0400, a ecrit:
>&g
Hello all,
I've reported this before, and I believe we had a fix for it. I just saw it
happen again. This time it's bookworm arm64 . I can't remember what info was
needed to track this down. Let me know what I can do please.
Thanks
--FC
On Mar 9, 2023, at 13:35, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 09 mars 2023 13:24:10 -0500, a ecrit:
>> -device ich9-intel-hda -device hda-duplex
>
> Ok, I tried it and it worked here. Possibly there is something different
> in UTM vs qemu in Debian.
I was a
Hi Samuel,
> On Mar 8, 2023, at 20:21, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Frank Carmickle, le mer. 08 mars 2023 08:23:27 -0500, a ecrit:
>>> On Mar 7, 2023, at 19:18, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>> Frank Carmickle, le mer. 15 févr. 2023 11:22:02 -0500, a ecrit:
>>>
Greetings Samuel,
> On Mar 7, 2023, at 19:18, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Frank Carmickle, le mer. 15 févr. 2023 11:22:02 -0500, a ecrit:
>> On Feb 14, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>> Samuel Thibault, le lun. 13 févr. 2023 22:41:16 +0100,
Hi Sam,
The only real reason why I even tried playing with pipewire at all is I thought
maybe connecting back to the host over jack may prove to be better performing
than virtualized audio hardware. Does anyone have thoughts about that?
You've got me wondering if I should look at emacspeak on
Greetings all,
After taking weeks to just get a machine installed, I'm finally finding that
the virtualized audio device from qemu and the linux driver aren't getting
along so well. At some point the virtualized system stops being able to play
sound, and the host systems audio buffer adjusts
ise wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2023-03-02 at 09:44 -0500, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have pipewire running as a system service
>
> Pipewire in Debian only has a per-user service:
>
>$ dpkg -L pipewire{,-pulse} | grep 'systemd.*\.'
>/usr/lib/systemd/us
Hello all,
I am still trying to get a running virtual machine on this m2 system. I was
able to get an installation that runs, that I can ssh in to. I have yet to get
it talking as my attempts to get a sid system with pipewire working have been
unfruitful thus far. Running things like pw-cli,
Samuel,
> On Feb 15, 2023, at 11:28 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Frank Carmickle, le mer. 15 févr. 2023 11:22:02 -0500, a ecrit:
>> The first thing to note is that the image does not come up talking at all in
>> stock configuration.
>
> What is "the stock c
Greetings Samuel,
On Feb 14, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Samuel Thibault, le lun. 13 févr. 2023 22:41:16 +0100, a ecrit:
>> Frank Carmickle, le dim. 12 févr. 2023 21:07:14 -0500, a ecrit:
>>> I've tried different emulated sound devices but the modules are
Hello Samuel,
Thanks for the clarification. I look forward to trying it out.
Thanks for all of your work.
--FC
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Frank Carmickle, le dim. 12 févr. 2023 21:07:14 -0500, a ecrit:
>> I've tried different e
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
>
> Hi Frank,
>
>> Am 13.02.2023 um 18:18 schrieb Frank Carmickle :
>>
>> The utm documentation at
>>
>> https://docs.getutm.app
>>
>> indicates that you can disable capslock
On Feb 13, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
>
>> Am 13.02.2023 um 18:18 schrieb Frank Carmickle :
>> Yet another thing likely needing work after I get something running, pc
>> speaker emulation. I'm guessing that we don't have it ena
Christian,
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Christian Schoepplein
> wrote:
>
> Hi Frank and all,
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 03:05:50PM +0100, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
>> When using the arm64 installer no beep tone was played, but this might be
>> because the whole system is running in a
Christian,
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 9:05 AM, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 07:56:04AM -0500, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>>> On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:50 AM, Christian Schoepplein
>>> wrote:
>>> What do I have todo to
Hi Christian,
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:50 AM, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 09:07:14PM -0500, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>> I'm trying to boot the debian installer image for arm64 under the utm
>> wrapped qemu on Macos.
>
> I'
Hello all,
I'm trying to boot the debian installer image for arm64 under the utm wrapped
qemu on Macos. I've tried different emulated sound devices but the modules are
not being loaded for any sound cards. Thee modules aren't even in
/lib/module/KERNELVER. I'm pretty sure they are on the
riginal Message -
> From: "Frank Carmickle"
> To: "Debian Accessibility Team"
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2022 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: tty13-24
>
>
>
>> On Dec 21, 2022, at 6:42 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, Frank
Dec 2022, at 11:42, Geoff Shang wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interestingly, my sid system hasn't changed from the old behavior of using
>>>> right alt for directly accessing tty13-tty24. My newly inst
> On Dec 21, 2022, at 6:42 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>
>> Interestingly, my sid system hasn't changed from the old behavior of using
>> right alt for directly accessing tty13-tty24. My newly installed bullseye
>> h
Hi all,
Slightly off topic, but I don't know where else to ask.
Interestingly, my sid system hasn't changed from the old behavior of using
right alt for directly accessing tty13-tty24. My newly installed bullseye has
me using left alt and shift to get there. Anyone know how to revert to old
> On Dec 1, 2022, at 4:35 AM, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
>
> On 12/1/22 03:19, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
>> I'm wondering if there is a way to install a clean install of Debian x86,
>> same bullseye version that is on the machine, to an external drive, so I can
>> boot to it?
>
> You can use
Glenn,
Speakup is a part of the linux kernel packages on debian,
linux-image_SOME_VERSION. I really don't think you need to be compiling a linux
kernel module for speakup.
HTH,
--FC
> On Nov 2, 2022, at 2:19 PM, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
>
> Where here is a bit of change that happened since my
Hi again,
> On Oct 28, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Frank Carmickle, le ven. 28 oct. 2022 11:03:58 -0400, a ecrit:
>> I have been taking newer kernels.
>
> Kernel device drivers introduce buffering, so it can be useful to
> investigate if it's a ne
determine which version of espeakup brought this
> regression? Possibly also try to change the version of libespeak-ng1.
>
> Samuel
>
> Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 06 oct. 2022 15:55:01 -0400, a ecrit:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Anyone else seeing this? I haven't got any log
Hello all,
Anyone else seeing this? I haven't got any logging to show as of yet, and I'm
not sure how to get it as of yet. If anyone could tell me what to adjust to get
some logging, as I'm not seeing any now, I'd appreciate it.
For now a killall -9 espeakup gets systemd to respawn it. This is
Hello Glenn,
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 11:36 AM, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I must be missing something, maybe someone here can assist.
> I put my working wpa_supplicant file in /etc/wpa_supplicant folder.
> My wireless according to ip is called wlp1s0
> I don't get the first part of the below,
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Frank Carmickle, le lun. 04 avril 2022 09:36:53 -0400, a ecrit:
>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>>
>>> Frank Carmickle, le lun. 04 avril 2022 08:58:08 -0400
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Frank Carmickle, le lun. 04 avril 2022 08:58:08 -0400, a ecrit:
>> Please excuse my ignorance. It seems to me that we don't have a native Linux
>> touch interface that is accessible, or did I totally miss somethin
Please excuse my ignorance. It seems to me that we don't have a native Linux
touch interface that is accessible, or did I totally miss something?
Having Braille on touch screen input is a nice to have. We need a way to
navigate a touch based GUI first, unless I've missed something.
--FC
> On
> On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Nick Gawronski, le sam. 12 févr. 2022 18:49:10 -0600, a ecrit:
>> If I am using the default espeak voice
>
> Is this in english?
>
> (yes, details always matter. I have e.g. gotten reports on the czech
> voices crashing)
>
>> and cat
> On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Samuel Thibault
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Digging back this issue, related also to a recent discussion on
> debian-accessibility
>
> Frank Carmickle wrote:
>> 0 5.14 and now 5.15. When I write a lot of output to a screen,
>
> On Feb 10, 2022, at 6:36 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 14:44:06 -0500, a ecrit:
>>> On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>>> Hi, I am often doing testing of software like Android building an
Hello all,
> On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>
> Hi, I am often doing testing of software like Android building and find that
> speech will stop during one of the processor heavy building processes. What
> I would like to be able to do is to change espeakup and other
Greetings to all,
From my 22 years of being a Linux user and advocate, I have seen conversations
like the one's we have been having here in the last month, come up quite a bit.
I have started a few of those discussions myself. They are difficult because
there are lots of words used that have
. Not the case. I'm spinning the knobs on a bunch
of different parameters now and am making progress. Strange how a virtual
machines virtual audio hardware buffer size will change on the fly.
Best,
--FC
> On Oct 12, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Fran
Hello list,
I just upgraded to sid and have found a bug that seems to have crept back in.
On boot the system is working as desired, we reading quickly line by line,
jumping over lines, the audio buffer is flushed and speech reads the lines as
you land on them. After a few minutes of the system
Hi all,
This is why, where ever I can I buy systems that support out of band
management, in most cases, ipmi. This way you can choose to change the boot
order , boot from the network or disk, without going into the bios or if you
must get into the bios you can have someone do it remotely
Hi Samuel,
On Apr 7, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 04 avril 2019 11:34:53 -0400, a ecrit:
>> I run into trouble with espeakup stopping speaking..
>
>> After downgrading the packages to the versions I mentioned abo
Hello list,
For quite some time, years, I’ve been running
espeak1.48.04+dfsg-5
espeakup1:0.80-1
libasound2:amd641.1.2-1
libasound2-data1.1.2-1
on hold. If I run anything after these versions I run into trouble with
espeakup stopping speaking.. Today I tried current buster and I’m still
On Aug 14, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Frank Carmickle, le ven. 03 août 2018 15:36:47 -0400, a ecrit:
>> Did you see the backtrace in my last message?
>
> Yes, I just didn't get around finding the time to analyze it yet.
No worries at al
Samuel,
Did you see the backtrace in my last message?
Thanks
--FC
> On Jul 26, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the direction.
>
>> On Jul 26, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Frank
Hi,
Thanks for the direction.
> On Jul 26, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 26 juil. 2018 14:07:03 -0400, a ecrit:
>>> so we have an idea of what it is doing.
>>
>> I’m not that good with a debugger. I wo
Hello Samuel,
Thank you for the response.
> On Jul 24, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Frank Carmickle, le mar. 17 juil. 2018 12:45:56 -0400, a ecrit:
>> I’m having issues where speech just stops. Killing espeakup and restarting
>> it i
, and libgpg-error. I
also see that espeak-ng was updated in the last week, and so maybe that has
something to do with better performance now also?
Is anyone still using espeakup or has everyone moved on to something else?
—FC
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
>
>
Hello all,
I’m having issues where speech just stops. Killing espeakup and restarting it
is the only thing that seems to help. It does not appear to crash. Does anyone
have any ideas about how this can be improved?
How close to upstream master is the current package? I see that a few patches
Hello all
I have had a number of issues with speakup and the lenny 2.6.26-1-amd64 kernel.
Has anyone else had any troubles?
I am now using a 2.6.27.4 kernel and it is much better. I still had an issue
today when speakup stopped speaking after updating hal. I have seen this twice
now. Does
On Wed, Sep 10, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Frans Pop, le Wed 10 Sep 2008 11:38:21 +0200, a ?crit :
I would suggest to only add speakup to the graphical installer images.
That would be better than nothing, as that includes the complete network
installer (not the businesscard).
I would also
On Tue, Aug 12, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Snip.
Also, please use '[ test ] [ test ]' instead of '[ test -a
test ]'.
I'm curious: why?
To bash specific. Have a look at the dash man page.
--Frank
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Samuel your cry for help has been heard. What can I do? I have some
experience building debs. I am not a C programmer so I can't help in that
area. I don't mind reading docs and learning new things.
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Hello all,
I would like to help in getting speakup in to the debian installation
system. With the requests for the woody disks to be updated I feel as
though we should just offer a speakupized debian installer for the
installation of sarge.
Sorry for my lack of responses about the woody disks
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