Re: wait for the boot device

2009-07-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marco d'Itri [2009.07.20.1023 +0200]: > > 1. use --run to start arrays as soon as possible, or only start an > > array when it's completely assembled? > Why wait? If you run before it's assembled, any additional members added afterwards will have to be resynchronised. > > 2. when can

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-07-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 20, martin f krafft wrote: > 1. use --run to start arrays as soon as possible, or only start an > array when it's completely assembled? Why wait? > 2. when can we assume that the arrays are ready to be started? When all members have appeared. > 3. how does the rest of the operating syste

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-07-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marco d'Itri [2009.07.19.2309 +0200]: > > Really? So is /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/mdadm > > (from the mdadm package) wrong, or something else buggy or broken by > > design? I also experienced the need for udevsettle when booting from > > LVM over partitioned multip

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-07-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 19, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > > If you need udevsettle anywhere else than after running udevtrigger then > > something is either buggy or broken by design. > Really? So is /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/mdadm > (from the mdadm package) wrong, or something else buggy or broken b

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-07-19 Thread Ferenc Wagner
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Jul 19, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > >> Now that a kernel (and initramfs-tools) maintainer gave the >> explanation you requested, how do you think we could proceed with >> this? > > As I explained, I will consider this after I will have finished the next > uplo

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-07-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 19, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Now that a kernel (and initramfs-tools) maintainer gave the > explanation you requested, how do you think we could proceed with > this? As I explained, I will consider this after I will have finished the next upload. > I'd like to add that udevsettle calls are a

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-07-19 Thread Ferenc Wagner
maximilian attems writes: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:55:40PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > >> On Jun 25, Ferenc Wagner wrote: >> >>> Any word on this? >> >> I'd like to get an explanation from the kernel maintainers about why >> this would be needed (and it would be needed in my package). > >

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-06-25 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:55:40PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 25, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > > > Any word on this? > I'd like to get an explanation from the kernel maintainers about why > this would be needed (and it would be needed in my package). > your package ships the udev initramfs h

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-06-25 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Ferenc Wagner writes: > So I'm back again, with the below patch running fine on a couple of > our production machines for a couple of months now. Please consider > incorporating it in some form. > > --- /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/udev 2009-04-15 > 23:05:42.0 +0

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-06-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 25, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Any word on this? I'd like to get an explanation from the kernel maintainers about why this would be needed (and it would be needed in my package). -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-06-04 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Ferenc Wagner writes: > m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > >> On Mar 22, Ferenc Wagner wrote: >> >>> I really hoped you'd provide some pointers how to attack this best, or >> >> I have never used this feature. If you are not totally sure about what >> you are doing please refrain from dumpin

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-03-22 Thread Ferenc Wagner
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Mar 22, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > >> I really hoped you'd provide some pointers how to attack this best, or > > I have never used this feature. If you are not totally sure about what > you are doing please refrain from dumping a probable grave bugs generator

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-03-22 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Ian McDonald writes: > Have you seen bug 501969? Yes, superficially, but the issue isn't specific to LILO. And it won't be solved by changing what you wait for, unless your root device is a bare partition, because RAID and LVM activation isn't periodically rerun while polling for the root devic

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-03-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 22, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > I really hoped you'd provide some pointers how to attack this best, or I have never used this feature. If you are not totally sure about what you are doing please refrain from dumping a probable grave bugs generator on me... :-) > if [ -d /sys/bus/scsi ]; then I

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-03-22 Thread Ferenc Wagner
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Mar 22, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > >> necessary devices to appear. Of course not all systems have a SCSI >> bus, so some extra cleverness would also be required. But this is a > > So submit a proper, tested and complete patch... Ah. Is that all? :) Compl

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-03-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 22, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > necessary devices to appear. Of course not all systems have a SCSI > bus, so some extra cleverness would also be required. But this is a So submit a proper, tested and complete patch... -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: wait for the boot device

2009-03-22 Thread Ferenc Wagner
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Mar 22, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > >> devices, btw. How do you feel about including something like this? > > I am not aware of this issue. Do you have a patch? This is what I usually employ: $ cat /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/scsi_wait_scan

Re: wait for the boot device (was: please test udev 0.140)

2009-03-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 22, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > devices, btw. How do you feel about including something like this? I am not aware of this issue. Do you have a patch? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

wait for the boot device (was: please test udev 0.140)

2009-03-22 Thread Ferenc Wagner
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > It changed a lot, so I wonder if it breaks d-i. Speaking of this, maybe we could try to get rid of a good bunch of rootdelay issues with your help. I talked about this with maks on #debian-kernel, and he suggested that udev should load scsi_wait_scan in /us