Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-05 Thread Simon McVittie
Control: forwarded -1 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/-/issues/221 On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 at 14:42:06 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:42:36 + > Simon McVittie wrote: > > Is there consensus among Japanese-speaking users of Debian that mozc is > > a better default

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-05 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 at 00:12:38 +0900, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > Anyway, I have just updated the patch to limit architectures. I don't think that version would be accepted upstream, because having a compile-time option per locale for the default input method wouldn't scale well at all, and GNOME

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-05 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Hi, On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 10:49 PM Osamu Aoki wrote: > Yoshino-san, did you check how mozc maintainers think about your proposal. > > If they agree, I think promoting mozc for little endian platform may be good > idea for better user experience. I am trying to reach them. Anyway, I have just

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-04 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:42:36 + Simon McVittie wrote: > Is there consensus among Japanese-speaking users of Debian that mozc is > a better default for all Japanese speakers, including new users who are > not familiar with GNOME or Debian? anthy vs mozc : mozc is better to default now - As a

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-03 Thread James Addison
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 X-Debbugs-Cc: gunna...@debian.org On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:10:30 +0100, Gunnar wrote: > On 2023-03-03 13:21, James Addison wrote: > > I also noticed that some of gnome-desktop's default locale-to-input-source > > mappings provide multiple

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-03 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2023-03-03 13:21, James Addison wrote: I also noticed that some of gnome-desktop's default locale-to-input-source mappings provide multiple entries, delimited by the '+' character: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/-/blob/43.2/libgnome-desktop/default-input-sources.h#L31 That's

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-03 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
X-Debbugs-CC: s...@debian.org, z...@debian.org, ken...@xdump.org, yy.y.ja...@gmail.com, iwama...@debian.org, debian-i...@lists.debian.org, debian-japan...@lists.debian.org, m...@packages.debian.org, ibus-an...@packages.debian.org On 2023-03-03 12:52, James Addison wrote: If it's true that

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-03 Thread James Addison
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 I also noticed that some of gnome-desktop's default locale-to-input-source mappings provide multiple entries, delimited by the '+' character:

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-03 Thread James Addison
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 (comment to bug-thread only) If it's true that the cause is that 'tasksel' and 'gnome-initial-setup' are mismatched, then we could apply a fix in either one. Given that we have an existing patch available for 'gnome-initial-desktop', I've

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread James Addison
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 X-Debbugs-Cc: s...@debian.org, z...@debian.org, ken...@xdump.org, yy.y.ja...@gmail.com, iwama...@debian.org, gunna...@debian.org, debian-i...@lists.debian.org, debian-japan...@lists.debian.org, m...@packages.debian.org,

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread James Addison
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:50:22 +, smcv wrote: > When there are patches available for whatever we decide is the right > behaviour, you shouldn't need to walk through the whole install process. Thanks; yep, I think I took an unnecessarily

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 at 14:58:36 +, James Addison wrote: > Thank you; I currently have side-by-side graphical installations of d-i alpha > 2 > running in both English and Japanese, to help my menu navigation, and hope to > confirm keyboard input results within the next day or so. When there

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread James Addison
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 X-Debbugs-Cc: ken...@xdump.org On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 22:07:16 +0900 Kentaro Hayashi wrote: > On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:47:22 + James Addison wrote: > > My plan is to: > > > > 1. run the graphical d-i install of a fresh GNOME 43 system

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, This is very convoluted issue. Disclaimer: I use (n)vim and anthy and voted for non-free-firmware=yes (i.e., prioritize user experience) On Thu, 2023-03-02 at 09:42 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > Control: tags -1 + moreinfo > > On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 at 16:46:35 +0900, YOSHINO Yoshihito

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread Kentaro Hayashi
Hi, On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:42:36 + Simon McVittie wrote: > Control: tags -1 + moreinfo > snip > > Is there consensus among Japanese-speaking users of Debian that mozc is > a better default for all Japanese speakers, including new users who are > not familiar with GNOME or Debian? At

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread Kentaro Hayashi
Hi, On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:47:22 + James Addison wrote: > Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 > Followup-For: Bug #1029821 > X-Debbugs-Cc: yy.y.ja...@gmail.com > > I'd like to contribute by testing d-i with Japanese input (I'm not a Japanese > speaker, but can offer some time to help). > > My

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Hi! I'm commenting on this with my Ubuntu glasses on. :/ On 2023-03-02 10:42, Simon McVittie wrote: Is there consensus among Japanese-speaking users of Debian that mozc is a better default for all Japanese speakers, including new users who are not familiar with GNOME or Debian? I want to

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread Shengjing Zhu
Hi On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 5:43 PM Simon McVittie wrote: > > Control: tags -1 + moreinfo > > On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 at 16:46:35 +0900, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > > As mentioned in Bug #984875, gnome-initial-setup's default choice of > > input method is hardcoded in the dependent libgnome-desktop-4-2

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-02 Thread Simon McVittie
Control: tags -1 + moreinfo On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 at 16:46:35 +0900, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > As mentioned in Bug #984875, gnome-initial-setup's default choice of > input method is hardcoded in the dependent libgnome-desktop-4-2 package. > The Japanese one is anthy >

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-03-01 Thread James Addison
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 X-Debbugs-Cc: yy.y.ja...@gmail.com I'd like to contribute by testing d-i with Japanese input (I'm not a Japanese speaker, but can offer some time to help). My plan is to: 1. run the graphical d-i install of a fresh GNOME 43 system 2.

Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian

2023-01-27 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Package: libgnome-desktop-4-2 Followup-For: Bug #1029821 X-Debbugs-Cc: yy.y.ja...@gmail.com Dear Maintainer, As mentioned in Bug #984875, gnome-initial-setup's default choice of input method is hardcoded in the dependent libgnome-desktop-4-2 package. The Japanese one is anthy