Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 09:09:37PM -0700, Grant H. wrote: Ok, I will preface this by saying I do NOT speak for the FSF. However, in my personal opinion the new documentation does in fact clarify the position of Debian but I don't think it does enough to fix the issue from LibrePlanet's view.

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 03:28:44PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 09:09:37PM -0700, Grant H. wrote: Ok, I will preface this by saying I do NOT speak for the FSF. However, in my personal opinion the new documentation does in fact clarify the position of Debian but

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 01:01:56AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: I think the debian-reference can mention non-free, but should take good care of clarifying the risks that the users take in picking software from there (lack of freedom and, more practically, lack of support from Debian, as we

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:06:32AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 01:01:56AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: ... minor communication nitpick, I'd personally just add a couple more things to the 100% free pages: 1/ that we _recommend_ running only free software from main

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-20 Thread Grant H.
Ok, I will preface this by saying I do NOT speak for the FSF. However, in my personal opinion the new documentation does in fact clarify the position of Debian but I don't think it does enough to fix the issue from LibrePlanet's view. Here are a couple examples of why I think that: 1) The new

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Thanks for your comment Stefano. (I have made further efforts as below.) On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 03:48:56PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 02:32:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: Sorry, also to just

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-10-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 02:32:07AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: Sorry, also to just clarify the bug and what the issue is. Thanks. maybe I should have read link in detail so it is partially my fault too. Excuse me. Let me join the I'm

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:54:12AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 02:32 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: [...] Problem: In 9.7.6. Non-free hardware drivers states as follows: ==

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 21:43 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:54:12AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 02:32 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: [...] Problem: In 9.7.6. Non-free

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 02:32 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: [...] Problem: In 9.7.6. Non-free hardware drivers states as follows: == Although most of hardware drivers are available as free software and as

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-06 Thread Grant H.
1) Thank you for the tips regarding the Debian community. I am new so please excuse any faux pas I make. I will surely preface any bug reports with what you mentioned. 2) I can't speak on behalf of the FSF as I am an associate member (I contribute financially) but am not an employee or

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 10:24:30AM -0700, Grant H. wrote: Sorry, also to just clarify the bug and what the issue is. Thanks. maybe I should have read link in detail so it is partially my fault too. Excuse me. I think we need to be clear what stage of action is going on and what actions

Bug#686481: Clarification:

2012-09-03 Thread Grant H.
Sorry, also to just clarify the bug and what the issue is. If Zak wants to get the Debian project endorsed by the GNU project[1] as of now Debian would have to abide by the Guidelines for Free System Distributions [2]. This particular package is one such bug that would threaten that endorsement