Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de writes: Neil Williams dixit: Just what is wrong with old-style debhelper like: And in fact, it has limitations (such as not being able to rename in dh_install) and other requirements which, for mksh, throw a stone in my way more often than help. FWIW, you do

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:38:04 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de wrote: 0: mangling to suit your own tools: dpkg-gencontrol -ppax -Pdebian/pax -isp mv debian/pax/DEBIAN/control debian/B/c/ rm -rf debian/pax/DEBIAN # goodbye dh_md5sums (cd

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: work on except you. You are replaceable and pax is not *your personal package* - it is in Debian, everyone with upload rights needs to be able to at least work out if the package is sane. Somewhat, yes. But I am still the maintainer, and doing things. It adds to the mess in

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:21:05 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de wrote: Neil Williams dixit: work on except you. You are replaceable and pax is not *your personal package* - it is in Debian, everyone with upload rights needs to be able to at least work out if the package is sane.

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: How is it helpful if you *and only you* know what is going on? It’s better when the responsible person and noone else knows what’s going on than when the responsible person doesn’t know what’s going on. bug in fakeroot precisely *because* the pax just built is used to

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:24:32 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de wrote: Just what is wrong with old-style debhelper like: Not much, other than the time a cowbuilder actually spends building the code, versus the time spent installing the B-D and doing several debhelper operations

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: m68k is not a Debian architecture It used to be one. it's requirements don't matter to the rest of Debian. So speed doesn’t matter? I’m sure the maintainers of slower architectures that *are* still in Debian would like to disagree. Or do you want to throw them out while

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: Just what is wrong with old-style debhelper like: And in fact, it has limitations (such as not being able to rename in dh_install) and other requirements which, for mksh, throw a stone in my way more often than help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-25 Thread Neil Williams
Steve McIntyre dixit: we think we may have found behaviour bugs too, but we can't be sure without spending even more effort. OK, just give me what you have, and I'll look at it, but I'm pretty sure I checked them. OK, I'm now even more miffed by pax because I've had to go through the source

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-25 Thread Thorsten Glaser
retitle 690381 mksh, pax: please use a more common packaging style thanks Neil Williams dixit: OK, I'm now even more miffed by pax because I've had to go through the source code AGAIN and it makes less sense now than it did during the BSP. Thanks for wasting yet more of my time. Uhm, you could

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-25 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Dixi quod… I will change this if the current thing is proven to be unfit, or if a better alternative exists. But not now. For what it’s worth, I asked because someone said possible behaviour bugs. I don’t see a single hint of that in your list. Maybe the one with chown 0:0 may be perceived as