Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-12 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 02:53:00 Bart Martens wrote: > Do you have examples ? No, not at this moment... Do you think I'm describing improbable situation? Even if watch files are constantly monitored still there is possibility for existence of two redundant watch files isn't it? Perhaps maintainers ca

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 02:42:44AM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:54:30 Boris Pek wrote: > > As Dmitry mentioned, in some cases disagreement with maintainer is > > possible, but such situations should be rare I think. > > IMHO the likely case for removal is aging of "updated

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-12 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:54:30 Boris Pek wrote: > As Dmitry mentioned, in some cases disagreement with maintainer is > possible, but such situations should be rare I think. IMHO the likely case for removal is aging of "updated debian/watch" file(s). In many cases "debian/watch" files are maintained

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-12 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Hi Bart, On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:32:53 Bart Martens wrote: > You asked me to be more specific : > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:53:40PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > > Why? Still not convinced? Even hypothetical example should be enough > > as long as argument make sense. IMHO at this point you sh

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-11 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:54:30AM +0300, Boris Pek wrote: > > But in some particular cases these suggested watch files are useless because > > they absolutely ignore get-orig-sources section in debian/rules. In such > > cases these annoying strings on PTS pages will be placed forever. It would >

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-11 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:26:14AM +0300, Boris Pek wrote: > Hi Bart, > > > Other examples ? > > I completely support Dmitry's request. I do not understand why he decided to > write about one particular case, but the basic idea is clear. My reason to ask for examples, is to have the chance to il

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-11 Thread Bart Martens
Hi Dmitry, You asked me to be more specific : On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:53:40PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > Why? Still not convinced? Even hypothetical example should be enough > as long as argument make sense. IMHO at this point you shall explain > what stopping you from answering my questio

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-11 Thread Boris Pek
> But in some particular cases these suggested watch files are useless because > they absolutely ignore get-orig-sources section in debian/rules. In such > cases these annoying strings on PTS pages will be placed forever. It would be > nice to have the documented procedure for removing suggested wa

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-11 Thread Boris Pek
Hi Bart, > Other examples ? I completely support Dmitry's request. I do not understand why he decided to write about one particular case, but the basic idea is clear. Yes, in many cases these suggestions for watch files are useful. Thanks a lot for your effort in this direction. But in some par

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-11 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:04:48 Bart Martens wrote: > Hi Dmitry, > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 09:21:50AM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > > I do not understand why are you hiding information how to remove > > updated watch files from PTS. It is not good that you're appears to be > > the only person who

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-11 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:11:15 Bart Martens wrote: > Hi Dmitry, > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:53:40PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > > Why? Still not convinced? Even hypothetical example should be enough > > as long as argument make sense. IMHO at this point you shall explain > > what stopping you

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:11:59 Bart Martens wrote: > The watch file included in cuetools 1.3.1-13 also uses that old mirror. Only because newer mirror have repackaged (not identical) orig.tar of a current version. With new upstream release it will be safe to drop. > Other examples ? Why? Still n

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-10 Thread Bart Martens
Hi Dmitry, On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 09:21:50AM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > For example, in the particular case of "cuetools" package, "updated > debian/watch" file suggest fixing old mirror that shall be removed > completely in the future. Since "cuetools" package is team > (un-)maintained futur

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Hi Bart, Thank you for adding some information about how to deal with the problem to https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/HowToHelpWithFixingWatchFiles However I feel that your explanation is incomplete and allow room for disagreement with maintainer. For example, in the particular case of

Bug#715793: qa.debian.org: how to remove "updated debian/watch file" from PTS?

2013-07-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: qa.debian.org Severity: minor For some packages like [1] "todo" section of PTS page suggest that "Someone wrote an updated debian/watch file you may want to include in the package". Sometimes such "updated debian/watch file" is no longer relevant like when upstream changed hosting or move