Re: runlevels [was Re: Upcoming Debian Releases]

1997-05-25 Thread Sam Ockman
Actually Debian could potentially use all the standard levels 0-6 for itself, and we could define the not so standard levels 7-9 to be totally for users purposes. That would give us much more space. We could then even take one of the 0-6 and reserve it for future use by Debian. And users would

Re: RFC: locking policy for Debian

1997-05-25 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Christian == Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian If I remember right someone else posted a Perl example Christian for right file locking--but I can't find it. I did... it's at URL:http://inetarena.com/~karlheg/Public. I don't know if it's _really_ the correct way

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Christian == Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian I just read the excellent article Consisten Keyboard Christian Configuration by John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, Christian issue #38. I read it too, and tried some of the configuration given there. I found that

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-25 Thread John Goerzen
Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK Herbert has fixed bugs in the past in 2.0.30 and the current debian version is already heavily patched. Its not the question of asking him. He already did it. The question is if all (dont take all to extremes...) bugs known have found some

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karl The newest XEmacs, 20.2 (compiled here w/o MULE), works fine for Karl me, in that the backspace key deletes to the left, and delete Karl sucks characters from the right, as you would expect after using Karl a DOS/Windows PC. I used

Problems with serial ports? (longish life story)

1997-05-25 Thread Karl Ferguson
Hi Guys. I've been running Debian 1.2 for quite a while now and it's been solid as a rock - the system is an isa486 dx4/100 with 32 meg ram. It's used as one of my dialup servers for clients - most of which run ppp. It's got 16 serial ports - 1 8port PC Com 16550 card, a 4port 16550 card and a

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-25 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 24, Alexander Koch wrote 2.0.30 has some problems, undoubtedly. I don't know if they're all fixed with 2.0.30-6 (it works perfectly fine here) but a usual 2.0.30 is poison... Do you acively 'use' these features? Do you know the drawbacks and implications? Though I can understand

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-25 Thread Mark Baker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the other solution is to have a small utility that stores these values, can change them and gives the values to the scripts. The third solution, which I prefer is a utility which modifies the variables within the

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 24 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karl The newest XEmacs, 20.2 (compiled here w/o MULE), works fine for Karl me, in that the backspace key deletes to the left, and delete Karl sucks characters from the right, as you would expect

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread Mark Baker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See, I think this is buggy. I have been using Emacs for nearly a decade now, and nobody takes my C-H default away from me (in other words, people have had exposure to applications like emacs on other

Re: RFC: locking policy for Debian

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sat, 24 May 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Christian == Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian If I remember right someone else posted a Perl example Christian for right file locking--but I can't find it. I did... it's at

Re: Where is the mysql package?

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
Sorry for the late reply; I was on vacation for one week. On Mon, 19 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im sure there used to be a mysql package. the mysql db libs are in, and xmysql front end is in the distro where the fundamental package? is it being worked on? Im positive I installed

Re: base-files does not create /usr/local directories

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Guy, thanks for the explanation. I hope I got it right now. Below is the new version of this section (currently 3.2.10 in Policy Manual 2.1.3.2). Note that I merged the old section with the new one, a few things have been changed and other things have been

Re: virtual packages

1997-05-25 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: I fully agree to what Manoj said. Since the dotfile generator will probably get widely used by other packages we should put this package on our list of public virtual packages. Since I maintain this list, I suggest the following addition to

Re: virtual packages

1997-05-25 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 25, Craig Sanders wrote On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: I fully agree to what Manoj said. Since the dotfile generator will probably get widely used by other packages we should put this package on our list of public virtual packages. Since I maintain this list,

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On May 24, Christian Schwarz wrote I just read the excellent article Consisten Keyboard Configuration by John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, issue #38. One of the things I missed in that article was how to get the console and X to use the same composite definitions. On my system, I've made the

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-25 Thread Scott Barker
Alexander Koch said: 2.0.30 has some problems, undoubtedly. I don't know if they're all fixed with 2.0.30-6 (it works perfectly fine here) but a usual 2.0.30 is poison... I've been following this discussion for a while now, and would like someone to explain what's wrong with 2.0.30. I've been

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 24, Tom Lees wrote The third solution, which I prefer is a utility which modifies the variables within the scripts - it's faster, it is more backwards compatible with sysadmins from other Unices, and generally it's nicer (less dependant on the cfgtool at boot-time). And it changes

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Koch) wrote on 24.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Kai Henningsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Oh, I give in. There really is no excuse. There is. No. 2.0.30 has some problems, undoubtedly. I don't know if they're all fixed with 2.0.30-6 (it works perfectly fine

new virtual package: ups-monitor

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi folks! Brian suggested in Jan (in private mail to Warwick) that we should have an ups-monitor virtual package. This name is already used by two packages, genpower and upsd, so this is just for documentation. Would someone mind if I add the following entry

Re: virtual packages

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Igor Grobman wrote: On May 25, Craig Sanders wrote On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: I fully agree to what Manoj said. Since the dotfile generator will probably get widely used by other packages we should put this package on our list of public

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-25 Thread John Goerzen
Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2.0.30 has some problems, undoubtedly. I don't know if they're all fixed with 2.0.30-6 (it works perfectly fine here) but a usual 2.0.30 is poison... Do you acively 'use' these features? Do you know the drawbacks and implications? I can tell you

Re: Conflict between Packages file and actual files

1997-05-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) wrote on 24.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hmm. Some thing that might help is a regular automatic comparision of ftp.debian.org and master.debian.org. I'll think about that for a while ... I just wrote something. First result: at this moment, master and ftp

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread David Frey
On Sat, May 24 1997 20:51 +0200 Christian Schwarz writes: snip A agree 110%. Hi folks! I just read the excellent article Consisten Keyboard Configuration by John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, issue #38. It would be nice if we could specify a keyboard configuration in the Policy Manual.

Re: Old bug reports

1997-05-25 Thread Christian Meder
On May 24, Vincent Renardias wrote Until now, I've taken care of some known orphaned packages, but since our (Philippe Troin I) last list of orphaned packages shows we have about 120 orphaned packages, extra volunteers are more than welcome. Just contact me if you are interested. Could

May I remove a feature from man? [was: Bug#10039]

1997-05-25 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Hi folks! Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the feature of man to index all the 'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current directory, when it is invoked. This feature is of incredibly annoyance because it leaves a file index.bt in those subdirectories. I think that many of you

Re: virtual packages

1997-05-25 Thread Igor Grobman
On May 25, Christian Schwarz wrote Whether it depends, recommends or suggests dotfile-module, dselect would still be satisfied when just one module is selected, so when new modules appear they won't be selected automatically. This is much easier to do than make a depends line

Re: Kernel 2.0.30 a bad choice for 1.3

1997-05-25 Thread Sven Rudolph
Scott Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alexander Koch said: 2.0.30 has some problems, undoubtedly. I don't know if they're all fixed with 2.0.30-6 (it works perfectly fine here) but a usual 2.0.30 is poison... I've been following this discussion for a while now, and would like someone

Re: May I remove a feature from man? [was: Bug#10039]

1997-05-25 Thread Guy Maor
Just add an option to man which turns it on. It can be off by default. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Questions (Debian Install) (fwd)

1997-05-25 Thread Boris D. Beletsky
Can someone please try and answer this guy? I afraid I can't do it my self. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 08:57:30 -0700 From: David Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Questions (Debian Install) Thanks again for your work on

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread Philip Hands
For example, on my keyboard I can use the up- and down-arrow keys to scroll in less (on the console and in an Xterm), but the PgUp and PgDn keys only work in the Xterm--not on the console. Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms! xterms are in my experience

Re: May I remove a feature from man? [was: Bug#10039]

1997-05-25 Thread Mark Baker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the feature of man to index all the 'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current directory, when it is invoked. I can see automatically supporting $HOME/man

Re: Questions (Debian Install) (fwd)

1997-05-25 Thread Philip Hands
Hm; I thought there was some way I could ask Linux where on my hard drive the minicom program was; something like ls -R minic* but that doesn't work What is the *nix way to Find file with name:___ ? I know how to do this with the Mac OS and several different Microsoft OSes, it's kinda