Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is anyone maintaining the Debian installation manual?
> > I know that Sven is no longer doing it. If not,
> > we will need a volunteer.
>
> I'd like to maintain it. I plan to be active on the
> testing front, so I should be aware of all the quirks w
Dale Scheetz wrote:
> This one is new to me...I have been waiting for the menu system to
> stabalize. I guess this means that it has?
There have been no changes to the menu package since Oct 1997. There are
several open bug reports, but these will hopefully be fixed now that Joost
is less busy. It
I'd like to propose the following changes as an intermediate step
toward a more unified handling of the various emacs flavors. Feedback
would be appreciated, especially from the other affected emacs
maintainers.
1) Have all emacs flavors add "Provides: emacsen" to their control
file. It would b
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote:
>
> > All applications registered to menus
> >
> > The menu package included in the Debian distribution stores
> > information about which applications are installed on the system
> > and provid
I e-mailed a question to this address a while back and you answered. So I
have a question...I can not put Linux on my hard drive and I can't put it on
my Syquest for some reason. So where could I find a boot disk like the kind
I use to access DOS?? Just something to give me a shell like the one tha
Attention all package maintainers:
Just a note that the testing group would like to have an idea of how to
test the individual packages (before we were only seeing if it would
install). All we are asking for is a checklist (and a script if you
want), which in the most general sense says: "this pr
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>
> it is nice property of "less" (as opposed to "more") that it filters
> out all non-ascii charachters (changes them to some ^... printable
> sequencies). As a result, it is not possible to trash the console by
> doing "less " or, more important - if so
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 09:52:00AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> # development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest without removal
> # of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other -dev packages
> # like libdb1-dev and libdl1-dev if they are installed.
>
> DEVPACKAGES=`dpkg --get-sel
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 01:21:41AM +0100, Christian Schwarz wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote:
> > > All applications registered to menus
> It's already policy. Check out section 3.7 of policy 2.3.0.1.
Could "applications" be spelt out a bit more? Clearly menu entries are onl
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Just a note that the testing group would like to have an idea of how to
> test the individual packages (before we were only seeing if it would
> install). All we are asking for is a checklist (and a script if you
> want), which in the most general se
Yeah, it was specifically left out of xcontrib, because the procps one
was a lot better: from dpkg --status,
> xfontsel, xgc, xman, and xmessage. (xload is in xproc now.)
Did the procps upstream give any *reason* they don't include xload
anymore? Could the current procps maintainer keep it in as
On 07-Jan-98 Martin Schulze wrote:
> Please file a bug report against the perl package.
I might do that, If I have time... but it really should have been taken care of
already...
> I the meantime you can try the packages I have compiled for
> a much simplier reason:
I appreciate the offer, but
> Shared libraries are linked dynamically against other libraries
>
> Linking shared libraries dynamically against other libraries
> simplifies the upgrading process and saves disk and memory space.
> All shared libraries included in the Debian distribution will be
> compiled t
On Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 09:32:20PM -0600, David Morton wrote:
> I just wonder how something this big slipped past so many people for this
> long.
If all people who have noticed the lack are behaving like you did, no
wonder why there isn't such a perl update.
Regards
Joey
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On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Vincent Renardias wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Just a note that the testing group would like to have an idea of how to
> > test the individual packages (before we were only seeing if it would
> > install). All we are asking for is a checklist (an
On 08-Jan-98 Martin Schulze wrote:
> If all people who have noticed the lack are behaving like you did, no
> wonder why there isn't such a perl update.
EXCUSE ME?? Ok, I already said I was not attacking anyone, but stating
that I was upset. Maybe it's not common for ppl to share feelings.
> > Is anyone maintaining the Debian installation manual?
> > I know that Sven is no longer doing it. If not,
> > we will need a volunteer.
>
> I'd like to maintain it. I plan to be active on the
[snip]
Great!
One change that is needed is to change lines such as
rawrite2.exe
to
rawrite2.exe
T
David Morton wrote:
> On 08-Jan-98 Martin Schulze wrote:
> > If all people who have noticed the lack are behaving like you did, no
> > wonder why there isn't such a perl update.
>
>
> EXCUSE ME?? Ok, I already said I was not attacking anyone, but stating
> that I was upset. Maybe it's not
Suggestion: package checker
It is currently possible to have packages installed which do not comply with
Debian policy. A lot of these could be avoided if we simply did some kind of
check on every package before we allowed it into the distribution.
Here is the framework for a simple, flexible wa
On Jan 07, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Is anyone maintaining netpbm? AFAIK the current version is still
> libc5 based. I've recompiled it for libc6 here and cold upload
> it if noone objects.
I spoke to the previous (current?) maintainer about netpbm about a year
ago... here's what I dug out of my m
"Meskes, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Are you sure nothing depends on the older tcl an tk versions?
If so, they need to be updated. We're only going to have 7.6/4.2 and
8.
I'll start running pkg-order on the archive on a regular basis and
file bugs on unmet dependencies.
Guy
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Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 6 Jan 1998, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> > Disadvantage: needs a patch for cron, to scan this directory as well as
> > the usual user crontab directory, and to execute those cronjobs as root,
> > not as a user.
>
> It's a small "disadvantage", aft
I just noticed that I uploaded lyx without finishing the postinst. If you
install 0.12pre6-0.1 it will delete your old system wide configuration file
without asking! Since this file is not usable with the new version this
won't be a big loss for most if not all of you. But in case you made some
cha
I did a new licb5 install and ran your script. Here are some suggested
changes. There may be more, but I wanted to get this out the door
to save everyone from covering the same ground.
I put a " || exit" after the bash upgrade and suggest that more use
be made of this to bring the script to a h
"Meskes, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Couldn't we find a common way for packages to adjust other packages
> conffiles?
The service registration mechanism I proposed earlier takes care of
this easily.
Netbase does this in the postinst:
provide-service --install-hook services netbase
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 09:52:00AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > # development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest without removal
> > # of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other -dev packages
> > # like libdb1-dev and libdl1-dev if t
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> 530-Sorry, there are too many anonymous users using the system at this
> 530-time. Please try again later. There is currently a limit of 10
> 530-anonymous users for your domain group.
Sometimes the ftpd on master gets hung. Whene
Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been looking al over for this trick... Tried this one to, which did
> not work...
In the beginning of your .xsession:
eval $(ssh-agent)
ssh-add
Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recently managed to add some sources in my -dbg shared lib packages,
> to make them easily debuggable. (See bug#16038 on 30 Dec)
I rather liked your solution to the problem of debuggable shared libs,
but you need to figure out a way to not need to
Yes, they say the X version is working so well under Linux now that they
don't need to support it anymore. They did include the old diffs though
(as far as I remember one ifdef LINUX and more additional function).
Could we please find a solution for this problem pretty soon as I (and I
suppose lo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes:
> However, I don't know the history behind this. What is the reason for
> not including Section and Priority by default?
Ian and I discussed it when I first started maintaining the archive.
dselect always takes the section and priority from the Packa
On Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 11:30:42PM -0800, Guy Maor wrote:
> > > Disadvantage: needs a patch for cron, to scan this directory as well as
> > > the usual user crontab directory, and to execute those cronjobs as root,
> > > not as a user.
> I like this option too. A more general patch to cron w
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think Guy intended to move all packages that don't have source
> to project/orphaned. So libc4 and xcompat, among others, moved.
> If libc4 and xcompat are to remain in project/orphaned,
I moved all old source packages to orphaned, and flat out remov
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>
> >
> > it is nice property of "less" (as opposed to "more") that it filters
> > out all non-ascii charachters (changes them to some ^... printable
> > sequencies). As a result, it is not possible to trash
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, James A.Treacy wrote:
[snip]
> Someone want to volunteer to do this? Once one person develops a good
> base, others will create more checks over time.
Funny, that you bring up this topic now, since I have discussed this in
great detail with Richard Braakman in the last days.
Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've got an expect script I use for my Quake servers which reboots them
> if they become stuck. Would it be appropriate to ship that and use it
> by default with the server packages?
Go ahead and include it, but don't run it by default so that you
Neil A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
wmaker-0.6.3-1 (Mixed dependencies)
Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is working on
WindowMaker packages based on wmaker-0.12.3.
Gregor
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Just to let you know, I will upload a libc6 version of axe (without rpath)
in a while.
Michael
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I still have a not-quite-finished upgrade of the experimental dpkg-ftp
done. I fixed some bugs and added immediate configuration of
pre-depended on targets and essential packages. I also improved the
backend logic so that it will only use later backends if the version
is newer. For example, you
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On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> it is nice property of "less" (as opposed to "more") that it filters
> out all non-ascii charachters (changes them to some ^... printable
> sequencies). As a result, it is not possible to trash the console by
> doing "
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> I did a new licb5 install and ran your script. Here are some
> suggested changes. There may be more, but I wanted to get this out
> the door to save everyone from covering the same ground.
>
> I put a " || exit" after the bash upgrade and suggest that m
On 7 Jan 1998, Davide G. M. Salvetti wrote:
> AucTeX is listed as orphaned in wnpp; I'm willing to take over its
> maintenance if nobody objects.
I think this might be because teTeX has now replaced AucTeX as the Debian
TeX/LaTeX distribution of choice. Of course TeX/LaTeX is so darn
complicate
> I think this might be because teTeX has now replaced AucTeX as the Debian
> TeX/LaTeX distribution of choice. Of course TeX/LaTeX is so darn
> complicated I'm not really sure about this.
AucTeX is not a TeX distribution but a set of Emacs macros for easier
editing of (La)TeX documents.
Anselm
I just filed bug reports against nextaw and xaw95 because they don't
list axe as incompatible. However, afterwards Ray told me that I could
as well include the incompatibility list with axe. So I wonder which way
is to prefer?
Comments?
Michael
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Hi,
where should 'ps' reside, according to the standard?
In the latest version it moved from /bin/ps to /usr/bin/ps.
Thanks,
Ulf
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On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 01:49:31PM +0100, Meskes, Michael wrote:
> I just filed bug reports against nextaw and xaw95 because they don't list
> axe as incompatible. However, afterwards Ray told me that I could as well
> include the incompatibility list with axe. So I wonder which way is to
> prefer?
As I already said in our private mail, Ray, I agree with you. Unless
someone objects I will change axe once again (but I won't take over
maintaining it). Due to my real work this won't be before next week
though.
Michael
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On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:
[snip]
> dpkg -iB base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb || exit 8
> # paranoia says "run ldconfig now".
> ldconfig
> dpkg -iB base/perl-base_*.deb interpreters/perl_*.deb
Did you miss the change re perl?
# perl-base must be configured before insta
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On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:
> where should 'ps' reside, according to the standard?
> In the latest version it moved from /bin/ps to /usr/bin/ps.
According to the maintainer, it will be moved back to /bin.
This is bug #16705. Thanks.
On 08-Jan-98 "James A. Treacy" wrote:
> I think everyone agrees that there should have been a new package prepared
> for bo.
> So we made a mistake. I'll never understand why free software gets
> held to higher standards than commercial software. If this were a
> Microsoft product everyone would j
BTW,
Does anyone know where killall went? procps_1.2.2-1 doesn't seem to
include it. "killall" is used in quite a lot of scripts, which are now
starting to break.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler) writes:
> where should 'ps' reside, according to the standard?
> In the latest version it moved from /bin/ps to /usr/bin/ps.
I noticed this too, and filed a bug. The maintainer says it will return to
/bin in the next release.
Martin.
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On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Bart Schuller wrote:
> BTW,
>
> Does anyone know where killall went? procps_1.2.2-1 doesn't seem to
> include it. "killall" is used in quite a lot of scripts, which are now
> starting to break.
Yes, it got broken out upstream into a seperate psmisc package. Which is
now stuc
On Jan 8, Scott Ellis wrote
> On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Bart Schuller wrote:
> > Does anyone know where killall went? procps_1.2.2-1 doesn't seem to
> > include it. "killall" is used in quite a lot of scripts, which are now
> > starting to break.
>
> Yes, it got broken out upstream into a seperate psmis
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 03:10:19PM +0100, Bart Schuller wrote:
> > > Does anyone know where killall went? procps_1.2.2-1 doesn't seem to
> > > include it. "killall" is used in quite a lot of scripts, which are now
> > > starting to break.
> >
> > Yes, it got broken out upstream into a seperate ps
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 03:13:05PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 03:10:19PM +0100, Bart Schuller wrote:
> > I mut say I find the policy with respect to split or renamed packages
> > getting stuck in Incoming suboptimal. First e2fsprogsg, now killall.
>
> Please file a bugr
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> Neil A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> wmaker-0.6.3-1 (Mixed dependencies)
>
> Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is working on
> WindowMaker packages based on wmaker-0.12.3.
Yes. I have them ready, and some ppl have tested them. (I
On Jan 8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> > Please file a bugreport against ftp.debian.org so Guy remembers this.
>
> Note that this is probably already covered:
> #4378: Dependencies should be checked automatically
> #9857: ftp 'dinstall' needs to check dependancies
Now you're really scaring me: out o
I understand that the modularized sound drivers are now standard
on Linux 2.0.32 and above. Given that, I think it would be good
if we had a setup utility for sound, like the one provided
with OSS/Linux.
Redhat have a sndconfig to go with the modularization patches
(which they sponsored according
> "APH" == Adam P Harris.
I've uploaded auctex_9.8i-1 to master: maybe someone could look at it to
see if I've done things the right way.
I put a note in Description telling XEmacs people they don't need to
install it and compiled things with GNU/Emacs.
>> 3) Current AucTeX package puts its
>From a recent installation run:
Unpacking ppp-pam (from .../net/ppp-pam_2.3.2-2.deb) ...
Adding `diversion of /usr/sbin/pppd to /usr/sbin/pppd.ppp-pam by ppp-pam'
Preparing to replace ppp 2.3.2-1 (using .../net/ppp_2.3.2-2.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement ppp ...
(Noting disappearance of ppp-pam, w
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Redhat have a sndconfig to go with the modularization patches
> (which they sponsored according to their web site). The latest
> sources were only in RPM format, the tar.gz was old, but I managed
> to battle with rpm long enough to extract them. (Conspir
Hi,
Chris Lawrence wrote:
[actually, this is what Susan wrote a while back]
> Hi Chris --
> I actually saw a couple of files that I thought I might add to netpbm,
> i.e., some that were tag-alongs that were developed after the 1994 release.
> I'm planning on
> a) putting them all into netpbm,
Alex Yukhimets writes:
> if something
> bad happened and you created a file(s) with some non-ascii charachters,
> "ls" will trash the console while "ls | less" will show you everything
> and let you delete it.
?? Why on earth do you need less for that ?
Doesn't "LANG=C /bin/ls -b" do the rig
Hi,
One of the programs I'm maintaining (filerunner) has, on its help
menu, options to display some of its documentation (which I
conveniently stick in /usr/doc/filerunner). This is how it does its
online help. One of the things it wants to display is the COPYING
file (the normal name for the GP
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I understand that the modularized sound drivers are now standard
> on Linux 2.0.32 and above. Given that, I think it would be good
> if we had a setup utility for sound, like the one provided
> with OSS/Linux.
Hmm, I didn't know this was in 2.0.32. I'
I did.
What I have: home brewed python 1.5b2 (I did not try to package it, so I just
run ./configure ..., make install to get it on my computer). Since almost
everything else is installed from hamm on ftp.debian.org, I do not have
appropriate libpthreads for libc6. As result, my python is compil
gmemusage is a rather neat memory monitor which displays a bar chart of
memory usage divided by process. It displays the number of each process name
(e.g. (4) bash means there are four copies running) and is periodically
updated.
Main site: http://reality.sgi.com/raju/software
Adrian
email: [E
On Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 11:49:46AM +0100, Christian Schwarz wrote:
>
> Why has "unzip" to "Provide" itself? As "unzip" is a _real_ package, there
> should be no need for a "virtual" package. (Of course, "unzip-crypt" would
> have to Provide: unzip.)
Even if this is uneccessary, I think it would b
Meskes, Michael wrote:
> I just filed bug reports against nextaw and xaw95 because they don't
> list axe as incompatible. However, afterwards Ray told me that I could
> as well include the incompatibility list with axe. So I wonder which way
> is to prefer?
It's much better if you include it with
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Alex Yukhimets writes:
> > if something
> > bad happened and you created a file(s) with some non-ascii charachters,
> > "ls" will trash the console while "ls | less" will show you everything
> > and let you delete it.
>
>?? Why
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On 8 Jan 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
> Can /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.gz be uncompressed in the future?
It will be uncompressed in the future. See Bug #15025.
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I've just changed the bug system on master to use my new parameterised
version. I hope all is still working well - I've done some cursory
tests, and it doesn't seem _completely_ broken.
Please report all problems ASAP.
Guy: if it all goes apeshit then just get one of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] people
sigh. Alright, if you can forward those diffs to this bug report,
I'll look into it; xcontrib doesn't take all that long to build so I
can probably try to send it off this weekend.
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> > > Is anyone maintaining the Debian installation manual?
> > > I know that Sven is no longer doing it. If not,
> > > we will need a volunteer.
> >
> > I'd like to maintain i
To whom it may concern:
I recently installed Debian Linux 1.3 on my computer, and while I
was trying to change my login shell for root the other day with chsh,
I accidently typed in an incorrect path to the shell I wanted. Being
root, I was not restricted in the path choice that I made, so n
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> was trying to change my login shell for root the other day with chsh,
> I accidently typed in an incorrect path to the shell I wanted. Being
Learn to use sudo, when you need to work as root. It helps eliminate
some "oops"es that can really fuggle
> > A few shortcomings of the current install docs:
> >
> > They don't even mention fips anywhere, let alone how to use it to avoid
> > having to reinstall windoze (The developer who creates the tools to
> > safely ,i.e. non-destructively, modify existing partitions during the
> > installation sho
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To whom it may concern:
>
> I recently installed Debian Linux 1.3 on my computer, and while I
> was trying to change my login shell for root the other day with chsh,
> I accidently typed in an incorrect path to the shell I wanted. Being
> root,
> > One change that is needed is to change lines such as
> > rawrite2.exe
> > to
> > rawrite2.exe
>
> I am afraid this is the shortcoming of debiandoc-sgml which generates the
> text
> and html versions. Should I manually (using a script) change the URLs after
> generating the html version?
>
Hi developers,
I would like to ask the following questions?
1. Does Debian 1.3.1 support the 3Com 3c905 NIC in 100 Mbps mode?
2. Does Debian support the above NIC without any kernel patches (native)?
3. When will the new version (2.0) of Debian be released?
4. Will Debian v2.0 support the above q
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Edmund P. Morgan wrote:
> 1. Does Debian 1.3.1 support the 3Com 3c905 NIC in 100 Mbps mode?
Yes, I've been running it without any problems for over a year.
> 2. Does Debian support the above NIC without any kernel patches (native)?
Yes. I'm not sure if the precompiled kerne
On 8 Jan, Guy Maor wrote:
> Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I recently managed to add some sources in my -dbg shared lib packages,
>> to make them easily debuggable. (See bug#16038 on 30 Dec)
>
> I rather liked your solution to the problem of debuggable shared libs,
> but you n
On 7 Jan, Igor Grobman wrote:
>> Is anyone maintaining the Debian installation manual?
>> I know that Sven is no longer doing it. If not,
>> we will need a volunteer.
>
> I'd like to maintain it. I plan to be active on the
> testing front, so I should be aware of all the quirks with the instal
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 04:09:02PM -0500, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I recently installed Debian Linux 1.3 on my computer, and while I
> > was trying to change my login shell for root the other day with chsh,
> > I accidently typed in an incorrect
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> > dpkg -iB base/perl-base_*.deb interpreters/perl_*.deb
>
> Did you miss the change re perl?
>
> # perl-base must be configured before installing perl
> dpkg -iB */perl-base_*.deb && dpkg -iB */perl_*.deb
m
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