Re: YA tkdesk, for unstable.

1998-05-07 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Daniel Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ever have one of those days, when nothing goes right? tkdesk 1.0p1-1 had some annoying packaging errors (most notably a non-working menu file); annoying enough that I'm fixing them and uploading yet another tkdesk. Was I talking about having one of

A message

1998-05-07 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
sorry about this, A test email. #1. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian listserver on 2%

1998-05-07 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 6 May 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: thanks to everyone who has asked if we have problems with the listserver. Indeed we had a problem with it. Delivery was sized down to 2%. I have to admit that I don't know why. I've resized it back to 100% and from the log I see delivery runs

Re: Tiny libraries

1998-05-07 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
I have a package that uses two very small libraries, shhmsg and shhopt. I packaged the libs separately from the program that uses them, but it has been suggested that I just incorporate them in the package that uses them (snake4). The libs are generally useful and they are distributed

Re: Time to say goodbye...

1998-05-07 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Nils == Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nils [1 text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)] On Tue, May 05, 1998 at Nils 11:23:38AM +0100, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote: Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, 4 May 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: Jim Pick writes: I must admit,

`MIT-scsh': May it go in the main distribution?

1998-05-07 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
I just recieved the following email... below it is the COPYING file that ships with `scsh'. May it go into the main distribution, or should I see if I can negotiate a different licence? Is this licence DFSG compliant, and if not, what parts of it are in conflict? Help me learn this,

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 6 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale On 6 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Dale During our past discusion on these issues I made direct requests Dale for clarifying statements about priorities of policies. I Dale specifically

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Hamm

1998-05-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 6 May 1998, Brian White wrote: Several people have asked for this, but maintainers already get separate reports about their packages and reports by package are available on the web site, so I don't really understand the usefulness of presenting it that way here. Is there

Re: `MIT-scsh': May it go in the main distribution?

1998-05-07 Thread Bill Leach
I would suggest that this one is very close but still misses... On Wed, May 06, 1998 at 06:41:14PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: [snip] Use of this program for non-commercial purposes is permitted provided that such use is acknowledged both in the software itself and in accompanying

`/etc/passd' locking glibc/shadow, PAM?

1998-05-07 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
From what I can tell, the method for locking the passwd and shadow files is not the same in glibc and the shadow utils. Can anyone shed some light on this? Is anyone working on porting PAM from Red Hat to Debian? Is that planned? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, This is getting nowhere. Well, when the constitution is ratified, maybe one can see how much support there is for more strongly ratifying the policy documents. As it stands, I have no motivation to work on the ``good practices'' document unless I have any indication it is going to

official brand for cdroms

1998-05-07 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
maybe the term offical for cdroms be used, if someone sells a set of cdroms, constisting of the official cdroms and an extra cd with things like debian-non-US, debian-non-free (those parts that are allowed to be burned and sold), and other stuff like 2.0 + 2.1 kernel source, netscape, mozilla, kde

Re: Uploaded perl 5.003.07-11 (source i386) to master

1998-05-07 Thread Martin Schulze
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 07:41:02AM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: On Thu, 7 May 1998 01:48:56 -, Christian Hudon wrote: Source: perl Binary: perl-suid perl-debug perl Version: 5.003.07-11 Distribution: stable You misquoted a part: Urgency: high Changes: fixes

Re: `/etc/passd' locking glibc/shadow, PAM?

1998-05-07 Thread Jules Bean
--On Wed, May 6, 1998 8:07 pm -0700 Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I can tell, the method for locking the passwd and shadow files is not the same in glibc and the shadow utils. Can anyone shed some light on this? Is anyone working on porting PAM from Red Hat to

/tmp permissions !

1998-05-07 Thread Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho
Hi, I'm using Debian 1.3.1 and till that i'm using only as root's user cause I was having problems on installing my PCBIT ISDN card, but know it's ok ! :) When the problem was resolved I'd log in as other user but I couldn't make man command as well start up X ! My problem was the /tmp

Re: /tmp permissions !

1998-05-07 Thread Martin Schulze
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 11:08:45AM +, Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho wrote: Hi, I'm using Debian 1.3.1 and till that i'm using only as root's user cause I was having problems on installing my PCBIT ISDN card, but know it's ok ! :) When the problem was resolved I'd log in as other user

Re: /tmp permissions !

1998-05-07 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 7 May 1998, Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho wrote: $ chmod 777 tmp Please do chmod 1777 /tmp instead. If you are worried about security, the sticky bit is supposed to be explained in every good general FAQ about Unix. Thanks. -BEGIN PGP

Configuration of teTeX broken (send once more due to list problems)

1998-05-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Sorry, I've got no messages from the list since yesterday. Is the list alive? So I send my message from yesterday once more and hope that now all is right. Hello, I have installed tetex-base_0.9-5 and the other related teTeX packages dpkg --status tetex-base says: Package: tetex-base Status:

kernel make install

1998-05-07 Thread Kenneth . Scharf
I downloaded the kernel-source_2.0.33-7.deb package and installed it on my 1.3.1r6 system. (I needed the fat32 patch). I now understand why I had trouble patching kernel sources from .deb packages, because they have already been patched, so patch tried to REMOVE the patch instead of INSTALLING

Re: kernel make install

1998-05-07 Thread Eric Leblanc
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 08:10:16AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has this been fixed for hamm? ( Or have I missed something here?) I use the kernel-package .deb to make custom kernels. It is available for bo and hamm. It makes a .deb that you can install with dpkg -i. I quot. This package

Re: on forming a new Linux Distribution

1998-05-07 Thread Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No problem here. As I said I *DID* find the answers and got my debian installation to talk to my ethernet card after making use of available documentation. But it was not Debian specfic documentation that was most helpfull, but rather general linux networking and

Re: Configuration of teTeX broken (send once more due to list problems)

1998-05-07 Thread Nils Rennebarth
I tried to upgrade tetex-0.4 to tetex-0.9 but that failed altogether, because the postinst failed. I corrected the install scripts and sent a patch to the maintainer but did not get any feedback. Nils -- *-* | Quotes

FW: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-07 Thread Patrick Ouellette
I have tossed around the idea of a ham specific configuration that would fit on a zip disk. Not the fastest way to run the system, but you could set up a swap and var/temp area on a small local hard drive, use a ramdisk and have an easy way to upgrade the node. I haven't thought about what

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 7 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Fine. But the moment any package ``ignores'' policy and insists policy is not broken, so should not be fixed, I shall file bugs against the package. Which I will happily reasign to Policy. As the technical committee would look at the

Re: on forming a new Linux Distribution

1998-05-07 Thread Brederlow
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)] On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 04:19:42PM +1000, John Boggon wrote: Can someone tell me why a new distribution has to be started up just because the current one isn't newbie friendly or easy to install ? There isn't

Re: Debian Source distributions (was Re: Intent to package pine-src)

1998-05-07 Thread Brederlow
Here are my thoughts: Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 1:57 pm -0400 Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep source in Source Format and use the .deb files for what they were intended, the distribution of binary components. I have little doubt you're

Re: Uploaded perl 5.003.07-11 (source i386) to master

1998-05-07 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 07:41:02AM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: On Thu, 7 May 1998 01:48:56 -, Christian Hudon wrote: Source: perl Binary: perl-suid perl-debug perl Version: 5.003.07-11 Distribution: stable Urgency: high

Re: Seeking other archs to build packages on

1998-05-07 Thread Brederlow
Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am the E/Imlib/Fnlib maintainer. I would like to help or make packages for the other architectures that are able to run them. If you have a machine and can give me access please let me know. BTW is there a list of machines like this somewhere? Might be

Re: Debian Source distributions (was Re: Intent to package pine-src)

1998-05-07 Thread Falk Hueffner
Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be a great idea to have source dependencies. I compile all sources on my debian mirror and most fail because of missing files. One then has to search the package and install that before compiling again. A very simple way to improve in this area

Re: Configuration of teTeX broken (send once more due to list problems)

1998-05-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Nils Rennebarth wrote: I tried to upgrade tetex-0.4 to tetex-0.9 but that failed altogether, because the postinst failed. I corrected the install scripts and sent a patch to the maintainer but did not get any feedback. Try dpkg --purge --force-depends tetex-base

Re: Seeking other archs to build packages on

1998-05-07 Thread James Troup
Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apart from that, you could also crosscompile. Uh, no. Please do not upload untested cross-compiled code. Untested stuff is the most likely to break and cross compilation is often dodgy. There are maintainers for the non-i386 architectures who will compile

bo updates

1998-05-07 Thread Michael Stone
I seem to remember that the packages in bo used to be updated for major bugs (like security problems.) It seems like now such packages are only in bo-updates, not in bo itself, which means that they don't show up in the Packages list. An example is the bind fix that was put in bo-updates a couple

Re: Debian Source distributions (was Re: Intent to package pine-src)

1998-05-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 7 May 1998, Falk Hueffner wrote: Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be a great idea to have source dependencies. I compile all sources on my debian mirror and most fail because of missing files. One then has to search the package and install that before compiling again.

Re: Uploaded perl 5.003.07-11 (source i386) to master

1998-05-07 Thread Alexander Koch
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 11:27:46AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Version: 5.003.07-11 Distribution: stable Urgency: high [..] It is a real upload. It's a security fix for our stable release. Uploads into stable may only fix security problems and should not introduce new upstream

Re: Debian Source distributions (was Re: Intent to package pine-src)

1998-05-07 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, May 7, 1998 10:38 am -0400 Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRT [Falk's] suggestion above, I don't think that developers can/should edit the .dsc file (its check sum is computed by dpkg and provided in the changes file for dinstall to verify the components). The correct

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
Dale Scheetz wrote: On 7 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Fine. But the moment any package ``ignores'' policy and insists policy is not broken, so should not be fixed, I shall file bugs against the package. Which I will happily reasign to Policy. Hang on, Dale. Just think

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Hamm

1998-05-07 Thread Brian White
Several people have asked for this, but maintainers already get separate reports about their packages and reports by package are available on the web site, so I don't really understand the usefulness of presenting it that way here. Is there something I'm missing? If your own

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote: Dale Scheetz wrote: On 7 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Fine. But the moment any package ``ignores'' policy and insists policy is not broken, so should not be fixed, I shall file bugs against the package. Which I will

Re: on forming a new Linux Distribution

1998-05-07 Thread Ardo van Rangelrooij
Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No problem here. As I said I *DID* find the answers and got my debian installation to talk to my ethernet card after making use of available documentation. But it was not Debian specfic documentation that was most

Marking bugs as fixed (was Re: Bug#18018: These bugs can be closed.)

1998-05-07 Thread jdassen
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 08:16:56AM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote: At 16:29 +0200 1998-05-07, Martin Schulze wrote: On Wed, May 06, 1998 at 07:43:45PM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote: Nope! Non-Maintainer releases doesn't justfify closing of bugreports. They only justify 'severity normal'. I was noting

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Hamm

1998-05-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Brian White wrote: The message is intended to inform _others_ of the problems that exists in order to encourage them to help solve those problems. When people whine about When is Hamm going to be released? I can just point them to this weekly message and ask them what

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Hamm

1998-05-07 Thread Brian White
The message is intended to inform _others_ of the problems that exists in order to encourage them to help solve those problems. When people whine about When is Hamm going to be released? I can just point them to this weekly message and ask them what they've done to help. So this is

Re: Seeking other archs to build packages on

1998-05-07 Thread Shaleh
I was gratiously given an account by another developer on an alpha. I do not believe that imlib/fnlib/E works on m68k -- correct me anyone if I am wrong. I would be more than willing to try and get a ppc version going. I never received a bug from an alpha maintainer -- I stumbled across it in

Re: Seeking other archs to build packages on

1998-05-07 Thread James Troup
Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not believe that imlib/fnlib/E works on m68k -- correct me anyone if I am wrong. Unless it broke recently, you are; certainly I've seen imlib based stuff work on m68k IIRC. m68k is usually the least problematic port (sparc powerpc are using dodgy glibc

Bug#22206: Some package uses psmisc without a dependency

1998-05-07 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: general Version: 1998-05-07 Today I have just tried the new APT on a libc5 machine to upgrade to hamm. [ Looks promising! ]. Well, from the hundreds of messages I was able to see a killall: command not found or something alike. I am quite surprised to see that psmisc is just optional

Bug#22206: Some package uses psmisc without a dependency

1998-05-07 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, since psmisc is not essential (and this is what really matters), it would be interesting to know which package uses killall (if any) and where, to add the appropriate Dependency. Maintainer scripts (and most everything else) should not use

Re: Debian Source distributions (was Re: Intent to package pine-src)

1998-05-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale On 7 May 1998, Falk Hueffner wrote: Dale Whithout meaning to sound too negative, I want to caution Dale against such patch and fill design. Ian J. worked very hard (and Dale was very successful in my opinion) to design the current source