On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:34:54PM +0100, Matthias Berse wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 03:16:56PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote:
> > compile devicd3dfx-source and you are done :)
> Am I the only one where make-kpkg modules-image fails on devicd3dfx? I
> have to do it manually! But maybe that's relat
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:27:26PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> Well, it's really sad that you like to dredge up year old context for
> this thread to suit your mundane arguments, they have little context
> with what I was saying.
actually, it's really sad that you haven't learnt that closing down
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:50:05PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > > Uh, which were the packages in question? Did you report it at the
> > > time?
> >
> > no need, the holes were already well known - and fixed in unstable.
>
> Security fixes have to be (and are) fixed in stable, too!
most are.
cr
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:43:38PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:27:26PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > it doesn't distract me at all. i mostly ignore it these days as it is of
> > > little or no relevance to me.
> >
> > Safe to say, that is a really self-centered attit
Hello.
I intent to package bdfresize.
ftp://ftp.cs.titech.ac.jp/pub/X11/contrib/Local/bdfresize-1.4.tar.Z>
bdfresize - Resize BDF Format Font
Bdfresize is a command to magnify or reduce fonts which are
described with the standard BDF format.
/*
* Copyright 1988, 1992 Hiroto Kagotani
*
*
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato.
The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink
to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the
installer in slink, is going to find that the old realplayer they hav
On 14-Mar-00, 18:58 (CST), Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> actually, it's really sad that you haven't learnt that closing down
> 'unstable' is a disastrously bad idea. you've been with debian long
> enough now to have learnt that.
How do you know? We've never tried it. You and others s
> Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25?
I'm doing exactly that.
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato.
>
> The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink
> to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Fabien Ninoles wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 06:29:06PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> > The KDE packages in CVS contain Debian directories. They are not always
> > perfect but allow anyone tracking KDE development to build packages. So
> >
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 09:23:42PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 14-Mar-00, 18:58 (CST), Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > actually, it's really sad that you haven't learnt that closing down
> > 'unstable' is a disastrously bad idea. you've been with debian long
> > enough now to h
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:46:39AM +0200, Ari Makela wrote:
> John Lapeyre writes:
>
> >Maybe you find it easy. But you are relatively elite in debian
> > knowledge.
>
> I'm not a beginner. I even earn my living as an unix
> administrator. But I'm certainly not a unix guru.
>
> >I got a
Le Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 06:06:24PM +1100, Craig Sanders écrivait:
> and fuck you too! how dare you fucking misrepresent my position and
> twist what i said in such a reprehensible manner?
>
> if you don't fucking understand what i'm saying then shut the fuck up.
Could you stop use those FUCKING w
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:10:54PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > > Uh, which were the packages in question? Did you report it at the
> > > > time?
> > >
> > > no need, the holes were already well known - and fixed in unstable.
> >
> > Security fixes have to be (and are) fixed in stable, too!
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:35:35AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 06:06:24PM +1100, Craig Sanders écrivait:
> > and fuck you too! how dare you fucking misrepresent my position and
> > twist what i said in such a reprehensible manner?
> >
> > if you don't fucking understand
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 10:05:09AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > > Security fixes have to be (and are) fixed in stable, too!
> > most are.
>
> IMNSHO *all* of them must be. It would be wrong to leave the users of stable
> `in the cold'. Those bugs that aren't fixed in stable are the worst
> releas
15.03.2000 pisze Craig Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
[cut]
Gentlemen,
I have seen ``South Park: The Movie'' and I like it -- in the cinema.
Not here. I don't like to see developers of my favourite Linux
distribution to behave in such a childish way. Would you kindly like to
get your toys and go t
Hi,
does anybody know, wether there are ideas or plans to make
an Debian GNU/Linux especially for embedded and/or realtime
systems, i.e. "Embedian GNU/Linux"? I think, that the
Linux Router Project was once based on Debian, but this is
very specialised on one task. And I don't know what Mobile
L
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 08:00:27PM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote:
>
> You just miss another one: sl-stormpkg from Stormix.
> Sure, it's not on potato but add
> deb ftp://download.stormix.com/storm potato main
> in sources.list and install sl-stormpkg.
>
> It's GPLed, GNOME-based, used whatever com
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:35:35AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> You have 3 RCB open against your packages (11, 25 and 21 days old),
right. one of them for a package (spamdb) which doesn't even exist
anymore so it's a bit difficult to see how it could be "release
critical".
two of them for
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
> First of all, you need to check your numbers. Last I checked there were
> ~350 official developers in the keyring. Right, so this proves my point in
> that we should encourage developers to put a priority on frozen and the
> next release cycle. And pleas
For some reason, since a while I don't get copies of bug reports against my
packages mailed to me. I'm tracking debian-bugs-dist now and checking the
web page once in a while, but this is less than satisfying.
Is this feature of the BTS still supposed to work, and how can I check what
goes wrong ?
Previously Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> For some reason, since a while I don't get copies of bug reports against my
> packages mailed to me. I'm tracking debian-bugs-dist now and checking the
> web page once in a while, but this is less than satisfying.
mee too. Same for bug submitters btw, I had to d
e16keyedit is a gtk+ based keybinding editor for the enlightenment
window manager. The license is BSD-style.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> mee too. Same for bug submitters btw, I had to dig into my
> debian-bugs-dist folder today to see what a maintainer said to a
> bugreport I filed and why it was listed as closed on the rc-bugs page :(
Ditto.
I was really surprised to find a bug sever
hello
i'm planning to package a perl tool i made (available at
http://tools.desire.ch/perlbeat) which includes some gifs using the IMPACT
(windows) truetype font.
now i wonder if this is ok, because i don't know about impact's license.
does anyone?
thanks for your help
Stefan
Kenneth Scharf wrote:
>
> >From what I read on this subject, I thought that most
> of the flame war was on KDE, and that it might be
> possible to include KDE IF, they made certain specific
> releases in their license. Since I thought that RMS
> had appoved the newer QT license as a free license
I just checked through the bugs open against quota and found that quite a
lot of them are fixed in the new upstream version 2.00-pre4. Yes, it is not
final so far but probably will be pretty soon. Now I wonder if it is
possible to add this version to frozen. If not all bug fixes have to be
backport
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:32:48AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> I just checked through the bugs open against quota and found that quite a
> lot of them are fixed in the new upstream version 2.00-pre4. Yes, it is not
> final so far but probably will be pretty soon. Now I wonder if it is
> possible
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 11:32:42AM +, John Travers wrote:
> This is what I have understood so far, but cannot guarentee corectness:
>
> The free QT liscence with QT2 is a fully valid open source liscence. It
> is completely compatible with DFSG. Linking to it with pure GPL code is
> not allowe
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:45:40PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:32:48AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > I just checked through the bugs open against quota and found that quite a
> > lot of them are fixed in the new upstream version 2.00-pre4. Yes, it is not
> > final
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[policies snipped]
> Also, I don't understand what this will buy us. An app, such as a window
> manager, can be internationalized, but it might not be localized for the
> user's locale.
>
> IOW, it doesn't seem to me that a window manager is any more
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:03:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:35:35AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > You have 3 RCB open against your packages (11, 25 and 21 days old),
>
> two of them for the same package (vtun). again, they hardly seem
> "release critical"
>
I need some advice to solve a recent bug report regarding a
frozen package.
The program needs rx-permissions for a device belonging to the
cdrom group and rw-permissions for a device belonging to the
audio group. Until now the program is sgid cdrom to work
correctly with the cdrom-device without
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:07:51AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:03:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > i haven't yet decided what to do about vtun. i'll probably get around
> > to upgrading it to the latest version one day, but i made a mistake
> > packaging it in the f
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 10:55:38AM +0100, Robert Ramiega wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 08:00:27PM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote:
> >
> > You just miss another one: sl-stormpkg from Stormix.
> > Sure, it's not on potato but add
> > deb ftp://download.stormix.com/storm potato main
> > in sources.l
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 11:18:49PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:07:51AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:03:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > i haven't yet decided what to do about vtun. i'll probably get around
> > > to upgrading it to the
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 11:25:47AM +0100, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> For some reason, since a while I don't get copies of bug reports against my
> packages mailed to me. I'm tracking debian-bugs-dist now and checking the
> web page once in a while, but this is less than satisfying.
I noticed that [E
[ ok I'll keep calm this time ]
Le Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:03:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders écrivait:
> right. one of them for a package (spamdb) which doesn't even exist
> anymore so it's a bit difficult to see how it could be "release
> critical".
That's possible, but then it would be great if you
Hi,
From: Changwoo Ryu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: priority of x-window-manager
Date: 15 Mar 2000 21:04:47 +0900
> Korean (and maybe Japanese) X users often see the Netscape titlebar
> incorrectly displays Korean web page title. Many of the window
> managers still don't care about this and
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:24:29AM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
>
>
> > First of all, you need to check your numbers. Last I checked there were
> > ~350 official developers in the keyring. Right, so this proves my point in
> > that we should encourage develop
Hallo,
since last week I have a problem when upgrading potato.
In the dselect install process after obtaining the necessary
packages I get mysterious "Size mismatch" for all packages.
All the packages are stored
/var/cache/apt/archives/partial
and a `dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*
Steve Greenland wrote:
> There is nothing stopping anyone from making snapshot releases of
> unstable. Mirror the archive. Burn a CD. Done. That's what a snapshot
> is.
As one of the many people who does not have cheap, fast, reliable
internet access, I would like to say that for me to mirror 650
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:17:54 +0100 (CET), Andreas Tille <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> said:
Andreas>
http://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/devel/libtool_1.3.3-9.deb
Andreas> Size mismatch E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try
Andreas> with -
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
> the most commonly installed packages today, and i had to build them for a
> dozen machines because stable was too far behind.
That's your own fault! If you are that experienced that you can build
you own packages you probably should kno
On 15 Mar 2000, Syed Khader Vali wrote:
> I got the same error when I was doing an apt-get upgrade last
> night. It was with man-db. But when I did an apt-get upgrade after
> sometime again, it did not reget the package again, but installed with
You are mory lucky than me because I tried the same
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:01:25AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> The only RCB left in quota is a *packaging* bug. IMHO, that should get
Correct.
> fixed and the new version of quota should go into woody--better the
> devil we know that the devil we don't. (And we really don't need another
> "well
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:45:40PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote:
> There is a point where backporting is actually more risky than using
> the (presumably tested) new upstream version.
I thinks so too, yes.
> However, what else has changed in quota 2.00? Are there incompatibilities?
I don't kno
thanks to all of you for the information.
Stefan
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 05:02:26AM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:17:04PM +0100, Stefan Ott wrote:
> > i'm planning to package a perl tool i made (available at
> > http://tools.desire.ch/perlbeat) which includes some gifs
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:56:09PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:01:25AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> > fixed and the new version of quota should go into woody--better the
> > devil we know that the devil we don't. (And we really don't need another
> > "well, this new v
After reading this nice diskussion with all it's aspects, I want to
complete the mess and suggest a "distribution" called
e.g. "progressive" beetween stable(frozen) and unstable.
As I understood the problem, at the moment, only the stable
distribution is able to be distributed, while the unstabl
Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> > Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
> > (a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *every* document in
> > French), I prefer the old stuff.
>
Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Dylan Paul Thurston wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> > > Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
> > > (a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *
Guangdong Foshan Kestar Electronic Co., Ltd. is specializing in ZnO pressure
sensor varistors, negative temperature coefficient (NTC) and positive
temperature coefficient (PTC) full range products. We have implemented of ISO
9002. We devote ourselves to customers' satisfaction,
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> does anybody know, wether there are ideas or plans to make
> an Debian GNU/Linux especially for embedded and/or realtime
> systems, i.e. "Embedian GNU/Linux"?
The problem is that "embedded" covers such a huge range these days. I've
built several embed
"Bernhard R. Link" wrote:
>
> After reading this nice diskussion with all it's aspects, I want to
> complete the mess and suggest a "distribution" called
> e.g. "progressive" beetween stable(frozen) and unstable.
>
> As I understood the problem, at the moment, only the stable
> distribution is ab
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> After reading this nice diskussion with all it's aspects, I want to
> complete the mess and suggest a "distribution" called
> e.g. "progressive" beetween stable(frozen) and unstable.
I gather you haven't read the discussion of package pools in the archi
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:04:47PM +0900, Changwoo Ryu wrote:
> You misunderstood "i18n" as just the translation support (and "l10n"
> as the translations). Translation is just a category of i18n.
> Atsuhito means i18n for the correct character displaying.
>
> Korean (and maybe Japanese) X users
My first mail seems to got lost. excuse me if this turns up twice.
In fact I am working on an minimal debian (-based) system.
I am building an embedded system which tries to be as small as possible.
I started with the linux router project, took some parts from the
bootfloppys and wrote some Makef
Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> In fact I am working on an minimal debian (-based) system.
>
> I am building an embedded system which tries to be as small as possible.
> I started with the linux router project, took some parts from the
> bootfloppys and wrote some Makefiles to take essential Binaries et
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> libtool
> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 13 not upgraded.
> Need to get 177kB of archives. After unpacking 681k
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
> > After reading this nice diskussion with all it's aspects, I want to
> > complete the mess and suggest a "distribution" called
> > e.g. "progressive" beetween stable(frozen) and unstable.
>
> I gather you haven't read the discussion of package p
i have seen a lot of discussion about a distribution half way between stable
and unstable. on the surface that sounds like exactly what we need, but at
least one person pointed out that this is not the way to manage a project
with hundreds of developers working against hundreds of seperate releases
Jacob Kuntz wrote:
> the production branch should always work. a system could be put in place
> where you could always get an iso image of the production branch that is
> recent to within a few days. i imagine that we would need to get pools in
> place before we could even attempt this. this type o
I really don't think that a "progressive" branch is necessary. The
problems involved in keeping track of three branches at one time and
trying to keep version dependencies in order between branches would far
out weigh any benefit that would be created by such a branch. IMHO the
structure (stable,
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:36:47PM -0500, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> The problem that I see is that there is too much time between stable
> releases. I think that shorter and much more regular time periods
> between freezes is necessary. By fixing the number and date of freezes,
> with say three or four
I'll believe it when I see a newly minted developer. It never should have
been closed in the first place, so therefore I see the fact that it HAD to
be opened as doubt-inspiring as to whether there will ever be a newly
minted developer. Until I see a working new-developers mechanism, I see
com
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
> try this hypothetical release method out:
>
> there are two trees. let's call them devel and production. debian saavy
> folks (maintainers) run devel. new packages are uploaded to devel where
> they are tested extensivly. when a package
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
> But it won't. This approach ignores the fact that "stability" is a property
> of a release as a whole (the set of packages and their interdependencies,
> ISOs, boot floppies and the upgrade path from the previous release) rather
> than the sum of t
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:36:47PM -0500, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> > The problem that I see is that there is too much time between stable
> > releases. I think that shorter and much more regular time periods
> > between freezes is necessary. By fixing the number and date of freezes,
> > with say thr
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:06:57PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
>
> > But it won't. This approach ignores the fact that "stability" is a property
> > of a release as a whole (the set of packages and their interdependencies,
> > ISOs, boot floppies
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:00:59AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato.
> >
> > The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink
>
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> > > The problem that I see is that there is too much time between stable
> > > releases. I think that shorter and much more regular time periods
> > > between freezes is necessary. By fixing the number and date of freezes,
> > > with say three or four a y
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:17:09PM -0500, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:36:47PM -0500, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> > How does this account for drastic changes to something like libc that
> > might take weeks or months to shake out?
>
> Well say that there are 3 releases a year. That gi
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 15:06:57 -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> A possibly naive question: apt-get will refuse to install packages if
> their dependencies aren't met. Why can't dinstall do the same?
It could do so.
> It wouldn't help with out and out buggy programs but at least it would
> catc
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:27:18PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> > > How does this account for drastic changes to something like libc that
> > > might take weeks or months to shake out?
>
> Build daemons could take care of the 90% or so of packages that w
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato.
>
> The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink
> to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the
hi,
> The program needs rx-permissions for a device belonging to the
> cdrom group and rw-permissions for a device belonging to the
> audio group.
>
> Any ideas?
users using your program and thus being able to access the
sound / cdrom hardware should be in the cdrom+audio group
for themself
its
Le 2000-03-14 17:57:30 +0100, Michael Meskes écrivait :
> This bug is listed as important bug against metamail. I do wonder though if
> it is important enough to warrant a removal. This bug has been reported
> against mime-support originally. Since no bug in mime-support was found it
> was re-assig
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:17:09PM -0500, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> Well say that there are 3 releases a year. That gives say 3 months for
> devel. With a freeze scheduled to start at the beginning of the 4th
> month and a stable release at the end of a month of freeze. I think
> that even the most dr
I am going to attempt to install Potato over a
28.8/56k modem. I have downloaded and 'burned' all 15
floppies needed for the basic system, and will install
that first. Then I will set up PPP, and fire up
dselect (apt method). I have already done this at
work (but on a T1->lan->proxy setup).
I
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 03:18:47AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > [22:42:00 src]$ tail -n 9 tkman-2.1b4/README-tkman
> >
> > Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
> > documentation for documentation for any purpose, without fee, and
> > without a written agreement
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:34:22PM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
> > First things first. Let's get potato released, and then get pools and
> > flavors implemented before we try to release woody.
>
> I'm all for that if you think the pools idea has any chance of being
> implented in our lifetime.
I
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