Re: Why I can not go ahead with IMP?

2001-09-26 Thread Ilia Lobsanov
It's the immediate logout issue, I believe. I've been having the same problem for half a year now, to no avail. There's other people struggling too if you search on Google. blah... ilia. - Original Message - From: "Shuangquan Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 20

Re: XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-26 Thread David
At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor patches in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody & Sid. I am willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it would be pointless cine a kernel image with XFS is bloated by about 300K if I'm not

Re: XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-26 Thread Russel Ingram
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, David wrote: > At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor > patches in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody > & Sid. I am willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it > would be pointless cine a kernel image with XF

Re: Why I can not go ahead with IMP?

2001-09-26 Thread Scott Dier
I got sick of how nasty IMP was getting and moved to squirrelmail recently. I dont think theres a package out there yet, nor do I know of a tool to move IMP database-driven address books to squirrelmail's format (yet). * Ilia Lobsanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010926 00:14]: > It's the immediate logo

squirrelmail (Re: Why I can not go ahead with IMP?)

2001-09-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:13:26AM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: > I got sick of how nasty IMP was getting and moved to squirrelmail > recently. I dont think theres a package out there yet, nor do I know of a > tool to move IMP database-driven address books to squirrelmail's format > (yet). http://bu

MUAs and Locking Was: Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Scott Dier
* Anthony Towns [010925 22:59]: > Why, btw, are you uploading a NEW package with the maintainer set to -qa, > especially when -qa has already asked for the package to be removed from It's absouletly horrid code to look at and has a locking scheme I wish not to overhaul to get into the fnctl, then

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Scott Dier
* Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010925 22:43]: > > Thats not really fair now is it! Branden is trying to make the > > procedure better if his suggestions are wrong how about making > > constructive criticism. > Tell that to James Troup. Perhaps next time let him make the comment instead. --

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > When a package that has been ITP'ed is finally packaged, I'd like to > suggest that it be reassigned to ftp.debian.org. The package changelog > can and should still use "Closes: #", so that the bug is > closed automatically, but this way i

Re: Disappearing task-* packages!

2001-09-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:04:12PM -0500, Taral wrote: > All the task-* packages seem to be missing from the main Packages file! > Where did they go? the dumpster. > P.S. If this was announced, perhaps the announcement should have gone to > the debian-devel-announce list? its been discussed in v

Re: XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:23:34PM -0700, David wrote: > At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor patches > in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody & Sid. I am > willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it would be pointless > cine

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christian Kurz | On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote: | | > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to | > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using | > 2.0. You want the functionality, you use the right tools. You want to | | Were exactly

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Greenland | I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to | do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using | 2.0. You want the functionality, you use the right tools. You want to | stick with 2.2, then *you* deal with the issues. The mainta

Re: Questions regarding the Security Secretary Position

2001-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:53:26AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: >However, the more people are involved, the more coordination has to >be done. And considering we're all antisocial disobliging SoBs, this is a fatal flaw ;> -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: section descriptions

2001-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:21:07PM +0200, NORMAND Jacques wrote: > > where can I find the descriptions of the official debian subsection which > > can be specified in the Section field of the control file? > > I need something similar to the /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc file > > which descr

Re: [Fwd: debian more international]

2001-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:01:05AM +, Sulaiman Alhasawi wrote: > > Also, I recommend you to maintain Arab web pages, documents, and > > other translations for Debian. Please refer > > http://www.debian.org/international/ for detail. > > Sure . Thats what im interested in and thats why im here

Re: strange(?) /etc/syslog.conf

2001-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:11:10PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > mail.*/var/log/mail.log > > mail.info -/var/log/mail.info > mail.warn -/var/log/mail.warn > mail.err /var/log/mail.err AFAICT the first on

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The bug was quickly closed by one of the FTP admins: Be happy, you got a reply... -- Marcelo | - "There have been...accidents." - "What kind of [EMAIL PROTECTED] | accidents?" - "The kind of accidents you prefer to

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > On 01-09-24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > > Hm, that doesn't make much sense too me. I think the best thing would be > > > > to have /etc/bind

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-25 Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > On Sep/25/2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > Were exactly do we force them? Which debian packages do not work well > > with a 2.0.x kernel? > I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may > have formatted your ext2 partitions so

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > and would instead suggestion to modify the documents stating that all > > > config files should be in /etc to make a exception for $CHROOT. > > > > > NEVER. This is not some low-grade distribution where you can go around > > scattering configurati

Re: Why I can not go ahead with IMP?

2001-09-26 Thread skaya
> It's the immediate logout issue, I believe. I've been having the same > problem for half a year now, to no avail. There's other people struggling > too if you search on Google. did you check that the database for horde was properly created ? see if /var/lib/mysql/horde (don't know where to look

"초보웹디자이너 정아예여.."

2001-09-26 Thread 정아
Title: 웹디자이너의 꿈              

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Roberto Suarez Soto
On Sep/26/2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may > > have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x > Well, I once heared about this, but never read an explanation what > exactly causes the differences in the

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Riku Voipio
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:34:31PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote: > > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to > > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using > > 2.0. You want the functionality, you use the

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > On Sep/26/2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > > I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may > > > have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x > > Well, I once heared about this, but never read an

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > who the hell has to do more work, if we add *support* for > *automaticly* running bind9 in chroot jail if the kernel > supports --bind mounts? By the way, are we talking about running bind as non-root inside a chroot, or are we talking about

Openssl - progression into testing

2001-09-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
There are a lot of packages waiting on openssl to move into testing. The latest excuses says: openssl 0.9.6b-2 (currently 0.9.6a-3) (standard) (non-US) (high) Maintainer: Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> openssl uploaded 7 days ago, out of date by 5 days!

wajig: Simplified command line admin for Debian

2001-09-26 Thread Graham Williams
Wajig is a simplified command line interface to many of the typical Debian administration tasks, including package management and configuration, and daemon control. It is essentially a collection of "tricks of the Debian trade" packaged up into one python program. Underneath it uses apt-get, dpkg,

Re: Openssl - progression into testing

2001-09-26 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Oliver Elphick" immo vero scripsit > And what does this mean? > out of date on ia64: libssl-dev, libssl0.9.6, openssl (from > 0.9.6b-1) > there are up to date bins in ia64 also There is a version of the package built on ia64, which has not yet been uploaded. Which co

Re: Openssl - progression into testing

2001-09-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 09:48:42PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > "Oliver Elphick" immo vero scripsit > > And what does this mean? > > out of date on ia64: libssl-dev, libssl0.9.6, openssl (from > > 0.9.6b-1) > > there are up to date bins in ia64 also > > There is a vers

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-Sep-01, 09:34 (CDT), Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote: > > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to > > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using > > 2.0. You want the functionality, you u

Re: XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-26 Thread Ed Boraas
> At this time being, there's no official XFS kernel images nor patches in Debian, however there is xfsprogs as far as I know in Woody & Sid. I am willing to work on an XFS kernel floppy boot disk, but it would be pointless cine a kernel image with XFS is bloated by about 300K if I'm not mistaken,

Re: Questions regarding the Security Secretary Position

2001-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 10:54:43AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:53:26AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > >However, the more people are involved, the more coordination has to > >be done. > > And considering we're all antisocial disobliging SoBs, this is a fatal flaw

Re: MUAs and Locking Was: Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 02:33:04AM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: > * Anthony Towns [010925 22:59]: > > Why, btw, are you uploading a NEW package with the maintainer set to -qa, > > especially when -qa has already asked for the package to be removed from > > It's absouletly horrid code to look at and h

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:54:29PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Rather than making it to be reassigned to something else, > it might be better to retitle it to make it look > > "ITP-uploaded: package - description" > > or > > "Uploaded: package - description" > > and still assigned to wnpp.

Re: xmodmap???

2001-09-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Michael Meskes wrote on Tue Sep 25, 2001 um 08:16:35PM: > Sorry you misunderstood me. I was able to get the Euro symbol but I have to > run xmodmap every time I start X by hand. It should be run automatically and > in fact it is, but the result is somehow overwritten again. BTW this is >

Re: lintian releases

2001-09-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-Sep-01, 17:56 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends: > foo, foo (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relations are > sane, so Depends: foo | bar | baz, foo is ok. How is that sane? I'm parsing that as

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-26 Riku Voipio wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:34:31PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > > On 01-09-25 Steve Greenland wrote: > > > I am so tired of hearing things like this. Nobody is forcing anyone to > > > do anything. We already "force" them to use 2.2 instead of still using > > > 2.0

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-09-26 Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > On Sep/26/2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > I think that maybe he refers to the fact that, for example, you may > > > have formatted your ext2 partitions so they are incompatible with 2.0.x > > Well, I once heared about this, but never read an explanation

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:54:29PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > Rather than making it to be reassigned to something else, > > it might be better to retitle it to make it look > > > > "ITP-uploaded: package - description" > > > > and still assigned to wnpp. > > >

Re: xmodmap???

2001-09-26 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:35:16PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > I know this problem, and I filed a bug on it, but it was not > reproducible, when the environment _before_ running startx has > [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I assumed that the Xserver behaves correctly and Hmm, I use gdm to log in. Will try w

Re: lintian releases

2001-09-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Steve Greenland wrote: > On 25-Sep-01, 17:56 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends: > > foo, foo (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relations are > > sane, so Depends: foo | bar | baz, foo is ok. > >

Re: lintian releases

2001-09-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 26-Sep-2001 Steve Greenland wrote: > On 25-Sep-01, 17:56 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends: >> foo, foo (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relations are >> sane, so Depends: foo | bar | baz, foo i

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-Sep-01, 22:59 (CDT), Anthony Towns wrote: > and filing, what, a dozen new bugs against ftp.debian.org every week is > something other than harassment [0]? How is it harrasment? It's a todo list. And won't the bug be closed automatically when the package is installed? So it's hardly any ex

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As with account creation for New Maintainers, inclusion of an > uploaded package with an ITP bug against it is the "final stage" in > the realization of the new package. We don't have fully fledged new > developers until their accounts are cre

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 08:42:18PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I can understand your argument for reassigning the bugs and in > principle I agree with it. My only objection is that people would have > to check http://bugs.debian.org/ftp.debian.org instaed of > http://bugs.debian.org/wn

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 26, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are there any problems I missed with cimply copying the files? Yes: people do not want to restart bind at every configuration changes. >Mount -bind is no option, hardlinks aren't either. Symlinks from mount --bind is the right solution for

letters in upstream version numbers

2001-09-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
Lintian gives errors when looking at a package with letters at the beginning of the upstream version number. Ch. 4 of policy indicates that the upstream version can't begin with a letter. However, it doesn't really indicate what should be done in case an upstream version does begin with letters.

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 26, Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Are there any problems I missed with cimply copying the files? > Yes: people do not want to restart bind at every configuration changes. good point. > >Mount -bind is no option, hardlinks aren't

Re: letters in upstream version numbers

2001-09-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > However, it doesn't really indicate what should be done in case an upstream > version does begin with letters. It shouldn't. Try prefixing it with a 0 or so. Wichert. -- _ / Nothing i

RE: letters in upstream version numbers

2001-09-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 26-Sep-2001 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > Lintian gives errors when looking at a package with letters at the > beginning of the upstream version number. Ch. 4 of policy indicates > that the upstream version can't begin with a letter. However, it > doesn't really indicate what should be done in c

Re: letters in upstream version numbers

2001-09-26 Thread Decklin Foster
Noah L. Meyerhans writes: > In the case of the latest iputils package, it is ss010824. I assume 'ss' means 'snapshot'. You should use a version of the form 20010824, and ask upstream to change. If a 'normal' version number is anticipated soon, and you want to be able to switch without using an e

Re: new packages: divx4linux and transcode

2001-09-26 Thread Zdenek Kabelac
Andreas Metzler wrote: > > > Yes, if you want mp3-Encoding. > > I see that it links against libvorbis, so perhaps sometime it'll > be possible to use vorbis for soundcompression. > cu andreas Yep - as soon as we will have more programmers in avifile team :) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Alan Shutko
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > AFAIK mount -o ro --bind /etc/ foo/etc does not mount readonly. So > there would be write access to the root partition in the chroot. If they are not writable by the user of the chroot process, that isn't a problem. If the attacker gets root, the use

Re: lintian releases

2001-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > How is that sane? I'm parsing that as "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo", > which is the same as "(bar OR baz) AND foo", right? Err, "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo" != "(bar or baz) AND foo", because it can also be "foo AND foo" (= "foo"

Re: lintian releases

2001-09-26 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:30:48AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > How is that sane? I'm parsing that as "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo", > > which is the same as "(bar OR baz) AND foo", right? > > Err, "(foo OR bar OR baz) AND foo

Mounts with fs type 'none'

2001-09-26 Thread Steve Greenland
I've a request to have checksecurity skip searching filesystems with type 'none' (not device 'none'). A brief check leads me to believe that these are result of mount --bind, which means that the mount in question is either searched or skipped in its "real" location, and need not be searched in its

Re: Mounts with fs type 'none'

2001-09-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:15:34PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > I've a request to have checksecurity skip searching filesystems with > type 'none' (not device 'none'). A brief check leads me to believe that > these are result of mount --bind, which means that the mount in question correct, moun

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Tollef Fog Heen (on Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:25:15AM +0200): > The right way is, imho, the way postfix deals with it. It took quite > some time before I discovered it chrooted itself. i disagree stronlgy mainly because of things like tripwire, which i think should be scanning *everything*

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Junichi Uekawa (on Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:23:32PM +0900): > By the way, are we talking about running bind as non-root > inside a chroot, or > are we talking about running bind as root inside a chroot? is that a serious question? just *why* would you ever run bind9 as root? martin;

Re: bind9-chroot (was: questions on ITP)

2001-09-26 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:11:07AM +0200): > But having a link from either the config-files in /etc/bind to $CHROOT > or in the other direction, could be in my opinion a security risk. In my > opinion there should be absolutely no link from $CHROOT to any file > outside the

Re: Mounts with fs type 'none'

2001-09-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 26-Sep-01, 18:31 (CDT), Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:15:34PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > I've a request to have checksecurity skip searching filesystems with > > type 'none' (not device 'none'). A brief check leads me to believe that > > these are r

Re: Mounts with fs type 'none'

2001-09-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:53:54PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > Thanks. Does anything else use '-t none'? i don't know, not that i know of, but i wouldn't rule it out in the future given `none' is pretty generic. > (And why does mount(8) document '--bind' but not '-t none' or '-o > bind'?)

Re: XFS Kernel image packaging

2001-09-26 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:12:52PM -0600, Russel Ingram wrote: > Pardon me if I sound like a newbie here. I am fairly new to the > Debian way, but I am a Linux veteran. I have noticed that there are > patches available in the debian package tree for the XFS filesystem > but there are no available

A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Bill Wohler
I think English should be an alias for en_US. Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French is the lingua franca of the world. It's only wishful thinking. British English is beautiful where it app

Re: Why I can not go ahead with IMP?

2001-09-26 Thread bart bunting
Hi, I have a long standing open ITP for squirrelmail. For various reasons I am unable to finish the package to my satisfaction and have been looking for someone to take it on. I have a mostly finished package with a couple of small bugs in it if anyone is interested in taking it over. See the

Bug#113653: ITP: links-lua-ssl -- a fork of links supporting lua language, resulting a programmable browser with hooks

2001-09-26 Thread Peter Gervai
Package: wnpp Version: 0.96; reported 2001-09-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: links-lua-ssl Version : 0.96p11 Upstream Author : links-lua team * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/links/ * License : GPL Description : a fork of links supporting lua

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 05:32:08PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: > I think English should be an alias for en_US. > > Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of > the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French > is the lingua franca of the world. I

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Ben Burton
> British English is beautiful where it appears in poems, plays, and > novels by Shakespeare and Wilde and other brilliant English authors. > It certainly does NOT belong in the ls man page. Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell words like "colour" instead of "color", not to write the ls

Re: Why I can not go ahead with IMP?

2001-09-26 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach bart bunting (on Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:32:52AM +1000): > I have a long standing open ITP for squirrelmail. For various reasons > I am unable to finish the package to my satisfaction and have been > looking for someone to take it on. I have a mostly finished package > with a couple of sm

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Wed, 2001-09-26 at 20:50, Ben Burton wrote: > > > British English is beautiful where it appears in poems, plays, and > > novels by Shakespeare and Wilde and other brilliant English authors. > > It certainly does NOT belong in the ls man page. > > Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Martin F Krafft
also sprach Duncan Findlay (on Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:54:40PM -0400): > But, putting my own radical beliefs aside, I think that English should > definitely be an alias for en_GB, seeing how "American" really isn't "English" > per se. agreed! martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.

Re: new port: and the winner is....

2001-09-26 Thread Ralph Jennings
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:42:31AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > The point being? We do not have to waste time with that now, at least not > with the kernel. We still need not to get too trigger happy with hardware > and firmware, but otherwise... > > I won't help a Microsoft window

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Bill Wohler wrote: > I think English should be an alias for en_US. Of course you do; you're /from/ the US. > Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of > the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French > is the lingua fra

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 09:07:27PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: > On Wed, 2001-09-26 at 20:50, Ben Burton wrote: > > > > > British English is beautiful where it appears in poems, plays, and > > > novels by Shakespeare and Wilde and other brilliant English authors. > > > It certainly does N

Re: PROPOSED: slight change to wnpp procedures

2001-09-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:39:38PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 25-Sep-01, 22:59 (CDT), Anthony Towns wrote: > > and filing, what, a dozen new bugs against ftp.debian.org every week is > > something other than harassment [0]? > How is it harrasment? How is it not? "Well, clearly after ma

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Chris Lawrence
As a practical standpoint, the localization choices for English go well beyond spelling... each English variant by definition incorporates local variations in date format, currencies, etc. (Even en_IE and en_GB aren't the same any more, due to the Euro.) Seems to me that "American English", "Aust

Completely OT, just to quickly prove a point.

2001-09-26 Thread Russel Ingram
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > > I've used the make-kpkg command to create kernel packages, but they > > always come out with a custom-1.00 label on them and I haven't figured > > out how to get around that. > > RTFM. see the --revision option. Does anyone else on this list see this

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Sam Couter
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having the English think that British English is the lingua franca of > the computing world is the same as the French thinking that French > is the lingua franca of the world. It's only wishful thinking. And how is that different to Americans thinking

Re: Completely OT, just to quickly prove a point.

2001-09-26 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 10:08:04PM -0600, Russel Ingram wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > > I've used the make-kpkg command to create kernel packages, but they > > > always come out with a custom-1.00 label on them and I haven't figured > > > out how to get around that. > >

Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 02:12:46PM +1000, Sam Couter wrote: > > Therefore, without emotion and with a pragmatic hand to guide me, I > > feel that English should be an alias for en_US. > > s/without emotion/with typical American patriotism/ > s/pragmatic/dogmatic/ Patriotism != jingoism. --