Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Il me semble qu'une meilleure solution ici serait de demander au mainteneur
d'iso-codes de faire un ptit script permettant de faire les conversions qui
vont bien (nom - code), et d'obtenir la traduction des noms.
En attachement, un ptit script
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 08:41:16AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
[...]
Du coup, dès qu'une nouvelle langue est ajoutée, bing.toutes les
traductions deviennent fuzzy.
Pas nécessairement, tu peux regarder ce que j'avais fait avec
languagechooser (mais les nouvelles versions ont été
Bonjour,
Suite à des essais avec le paquet linuxlogo et les fichiers /etc/issue*, j'ai
remarqué qu'il n'était pas possible de regénérer le fichier /etc/issue.
En supprimant (ou en déplacant) /etc/issue et /etc/issue.net, il est
impossible de les réinstaller avec :
# apt-get --reinstall install
Bonjour,
Je developpe avec mes camarades un paquet Debian pour notre logiciel
(C-Arbre) que nous aimerions voir, un jour
dans cette Distrbution. Suivant la procedure decrite dans le guide du
nouveau mainteneur, y a t'il quelqu'un pour me signer ma cle gpg?
C-Arbre :
[Most of the discussion on the Debian-Lex proto-subproject has been
off-list, so I'm sending this one to the list so that people can see
something of our progress. These answers will be made into an article
by Matt Black at some point after we get an official list and Web area.]
On Sun,
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:24:31PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
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* Package name: konqueror-embedded
Version : 20021229_snapshot
Upstream Author : Simon Hausman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Chitescu [EMAIL
-snip-
* SSL
-snip-
This is likely illegal if it is truely one binary and doesn't do the
kpart abstraction stuff... I really wish openssl would just vanish
someday.
Time to start converting the world to gnu TLS, it seems...
Morgon
--
You said homosexuals form a small percentage of
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 01:48:01AM -0400, Morgon Kanter wrote:
-snip-
* SSL
-snip-
This is likely illegal if it is truely one binary and doesn't do the
kpart abstraction stuff... I really wish openssl would just vanish
someday.
Time to start converting the world to gnu TLS,
On Sun 27 April 2003 13:54, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
[Most of the discussion on the Debian-Lex proto-subproject has been
off-list, so I'm sending this one to the list so that people can see
something of our progress. These answers will be made into an article
by Matt Black at some point after we
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-27
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: gnome-randr-applet
Version : 0.2
Upstream Author : Matthew Allum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL :
http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/grandr_applet-0.2.tar.gz
* License
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:28:53PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
For practical purposes, yes... Although emulated FP is really, REALLY
slow. I installed a machine to be a X terminal about two years ago -
386SX, 8MB RAM. It worked fine, yes... But MUCH slower than a
similarly-configured machine
Jarno Elonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to bring the uninitiated like me up to date about ways to upgrade
changed
dpkg conffiles, I would greatly appreciate if someone with insight could
summarize the current status:
[...]
+ Are there some specific reasons why dpkg doesn't offer
Afaik the original conffile is not available, dpkg just has the md5sum
of it in /var/lib/dpkg/status. I doubt that two-way-merging is _very_
useful.
Well, you can now try for yourself. :-)
http://elonen.iki.fi/code/dpkg-merge/
- Jarno
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 03:40:33AM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote:
http://elonen.iki.fi/code/dpkg-merge/ contains the patched dpkg
and a new interactive python curses based two-way merge tool
called imediff2 (+ 3 screenshots for the impatient).
Why two-way merge instead of three-way?
The problem
Hi Henrique,
It is good to see that there is actually work done on it. Obviously you
are more into the topic (and you are a debian developer), so It's up to
me to offer you help with that, not the other way around :-)
After reading through your paper (nice work), it looks to me as if the
the
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:05:50PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
I agree, the vast majority of our users can afford newer machines. So, I
think we should drop m68k, mips and other similar unfashionable old
archs, don't you think? The majority of our users will be happy...
I'm not sure where the
subscribe
Why two-way merge instead of three-way?
Because of...
Unfortunately neither is currently possible at the moment, simply
because dpkg doesn't save a copy of the last installed config file
anywhere.
...this.
I thought it would make big difference to have even 2-way merging now instead
of
Jarno Elonen (2003-04-27 14:16:02 +0300) :
If we can agree wether or not, how and where the original conffiles
should be saved, I'll be happy to implement 3-way merging to dpkg
and write imediff3 as a user friendly UI for it. Opinions?
Unrelated to this diff thing, it's going to be a big help
On Sun, 2003-04-27 at 08:18, Sven Luther wrote:
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-27
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: gnome-randr-applet
Version : 0.2
Upstream Author : Matthew Allum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL :
There might be things to think about though: some packages have lots
of conffiles, and that could mean some extra disk space, which not
everyone will want to spend. Maybe make it optional.
Bzipping could help, and maybe even tarring them all to one file. As a quick
test, I bzip-tarred my
On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, +20:27:07 EEST (UTC +0300),
Michael Fedrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] pressed some keys:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 12:02:00PM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont
FontPath
Hello,
(this mail is send to the debian developers and to francis, the upstream
author)
Martin, while maintaining the archive, contacted me, because he wanted to
remove the orpahaned ipchains-perl module. He noticed, that my fwctl is
depending on it.
Personally I love fwctl and use it on some
On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 03:56, Chris Cheney wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not
have or can not purchase a system that is less than 7 years old.
I have a brand new 486-class system with 32MB of RAM. It's less than 6
months old.
Please explain how I can
On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 12:15, Steve Langasek wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not
have or can not purchase a system that is less than 7 years old.
Your non-sustainable Western consumerism is showing.
rant
Actually, for most of those old 486's,
On Sun, 2003-04-27 at 01:37, Matt Black wrote:
I think it's a good idea to get some 'media' coverage of the project in
forums
where interested parties might be lurking. I know debian-lex is in its
infancy, but I think that one way to help things move along is to expose the
idea to
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-27
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: libsdl-sound1.2
Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : Ryan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://icculus.org/SDL_sound/
* License : GPL
Description : Decodes several
n Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 07:13:03PM +, Martin Wheeler wrote:
Has anyone solved the problem of getting a Samsung ML-1210 to print
(over USB cable connection) using CUPS and Gimp-print? (Foomatic,
actually.)
...
I have no printing problems whatsoever now (that I know of, anyway),
_except_
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* Package name: kq
Version : 0.98+cvs.20030129
Upstream Author : Josh Bolduc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://kqlives.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL v2
Description : an adventure
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 01:10:57PM +0100, Rob Bradford wrote:
On Sun, 2003-04-27 at 08:18, Sven Luther wrote:
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-27
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: gnome-randr-applet
Version : 0.2
Upstream Author : Matthew Allum
On Saturday 26 April 2003 05:08, Chris Cheney wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:36:56AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
What about the Via C3? That was introduced not too long ago, runs
moderately quickly (~1GHz) with low power consumption, but IIRC doesn't
support the i686 instruction set.
Matthew Palmer wrote:
it's labour-intensive, it's pretty damn effective.
^
And there's why it doesn't work for Debian. We don't have money to throw at
our developers.
I never claimed we should. I merely explained one of the many reasons Debian
is fundamentally slower
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*
Björn Stenberg (2003-04-27 21:17:04 +0200) :
[...]
Actually, Debian has chosen Portability over Quality. Quality means
a lot more than just fixing bugs, you know. A program that does not
work with current data or devices has low quality even if it doesn't
crash. The mere age of most packages
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
rant
Actually, for most of those old 486's, replacing them with
new 486's would be much more sustainable, due to the
lessened power draw.
/rant
Since manufacturing computers takes _very_ much energy I doubt that.
This is an attempt to summarize some points.
1. Why do we have a problem, other than performance issues?
* To maintain binary compatibility with other distributions for C++
packages, Debian needs to use the i486+ version of atomicity.h supplied
by GCC.
* This version is significantly faster
Hi all
I've configured and built the kernel, using gcc-2.95, make bzImage and
modules, installed modules under /lib/modules/2.5.68. Everything goes
fine except for a bunch of depmod errors during the 'make
modules_install' which I'm guessing is because the new modules don't
match the running
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oddly, it looks like GCC doesn't currently ever generate
486-specific instructions; they are only (currently) of benefit to
assembly programmers. (Hmm... maybe I should see if there's an
enhancement opportunity to GCC there.)
I have a patch
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 21:37:06 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
I've configured and built the kernel, using gcc-2.95,
I've not followed 2.5 development, but I'd suspect the recommended compiler
for building it ought to be gcc 3.2 or 3.3 rather than 2.95 by now - check
the documentation
Hi Nathanael!
You wrote:
* Drop i386 support mostly. 'i386' architecture becomes 'i486'.
Start a 'Debian-real-i386' subproject, with a 'real-i386' architecture,
but don't require that any packages build on it in order to go into
testing or to release Debian; it would be a bonus
On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Andrew Lau wrote:
Try changing the printing command to lpr -Pprinter instead of
gimp-print's default of lp -s -dprinter -oraw.
Thanks Andrew -- that worked a treat!
Funny though -- I know had already tried 'lpr -P printer' note space; can't
remember whether I blew away
Hi.
I noticed that in order to implement your read-only root proposal, you
propose to modify the pam package.
I'm not really sure I see the justification for read-only /. I can
see several possible justifications and some of the possible goals
conflict.
Until you get general consensus on a
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 26 Apr 2003, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le sam 26/04/2003 à 02:59, Matthew Palmer a écrit :
For the original problem, it surely should be possible to build 386 and
486+
versions of libstdc++ and include both in the distro, with linker magic
Turn on virtual terminal support...
Chris
One big problem about Richard Gooch's simpleinit is that it is
functionally very different from the standard systme V init scripts.
Specifically, he always assumes that runlevel n+1 is always a superset
of runlevel n, and that in order to get to runlevel n+1, you must
first start up all of the
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 09:37:06PM +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
When booting, grub seems to find it, uncompress it, then it says 'OK,
booting the kernel' and nothing more. It just hangs. I don't see the
line announcing the kernel version or compiler etc.
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
Milan
At 12:52 27/04/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 03:56, Chris Cheney wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not
have or can not purchase a system that is less than 7 years old.
I have a brand new 486-class system with 32MB of RAM. It's less than 6
* Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030427 16:59]:
I've configured and built the kernel, using gcc-2.95, make bzImage and
modules, installed modules under /lib/modules/2.5.68. Everything goes
fine except for a bunch of depmod errors during the 'make
modules_install' which I'm guessing is
test
sorry
On Mon, 2003-04-28 at 08:45, José Luis Tallón wrote:
At 12:52 27/04/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Please explain how I can get a similar system, running on a similar
amount of power, and with no moving parts (i.e., no fans) using, even a
P-II.
Hey! Where did you get that from?
I'd love to have
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 06:45:42PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote:
* Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030427 16:59]:
I've configured and built the kernel, using gcc-2.95, make bzImage and
modules, installed modules under /lib/modules/2.5.68. Everything goes
fine except for a bunch of
Hi,
I am in the process of rewriting grep-dctrl. The rewrite attempts to
gain speed over the old version while removing one of the greatest
defects in the old code: the new grep-dctrl is able to combine searches
in full boolean manner.
The current version does not yet duplicate all the features
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 12:40:28AM +0200, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 09:37:06PM +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
When booting, grub seems to find it, uncompress it, then it says 'OK,
booting the kernel' and nothing more. It just hangs. I don't see the
line announcing
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 02:32:30AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
I am in the process of rewriting grep-dctrl. The rewrite attempts to
gain speed over the old version while removing one of the greatest
defects in the old code: the new grep-dctrl is able to combine searches
in full
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 02:23:03PM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote:
At 19:55 26/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
1a. create a stripped down version for i386, i.e. required/important
and go for i486.
Is there much performance
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 03:52:13PM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote:
There might be things to think about though: some packages have lots
of conffiles, and that could mean some extra disk space, which not
everyone will want to spend. Maybe make it optional.
Bzipping could help, and maybe even
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 02:32:30AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/dctrl-tools login
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/dctrl-tools co \
-r v1_rewrite dctrl-tools
make
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL
Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW: do you have any quantative numbers on the i386/i486 performance
issues (e.g. for openssl)?
I hacked up a quick script (http://ilmari.org/sslcmp) that compares
two 'openssl speed' outputs and gives you the ratio, here's the output
for i386 vs i486 on
I demand that Gunnar Wolf may or may not have uselessly CC'd to me...
[snip]
I thought that in-kernel emulation would have solved the gap between 486
DX and SX.
For practical purposes, yes... Although emulated FP is really, REALLY slow.
Is it safe to mention ARM710 in this thread? :-)
--
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Roland Mas wrote:
*Supposing* I were agreeing with you on the existence of a problem,
I would probably be of the opinion classified as case 3 above. The
reason I could identify for the problem would be that people prefer
bitching and complaining about testing being late and stable being
old,
She boots! Thanks to Bart Trojanowski for much help.
I'm posting this to the list in case someone else runs into the same
problem trying to build kernel 2.5 on Debian unstable. The symptom was
an apparently frozen screen after the message 'Uncompressing Linux...
Ok, booting the kernel.'
First,
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