Re: Adding lzma to dpkg's Pre-Depends

2008-07-22 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, Summary of the thread starting at: The only valid concerns rised in that thread were from Anthony, and I think I gave reasons to dismiss them (found below). The rest were concerning policy decisions on when to use lzma compressi

Re: FHS and /var/www

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:48 AM, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >sean (with his dusty debian webapps team hat on) Exactly. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROT

Re: DPL teams survey summary summary

2008-07-22 Thread Vid . A
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve McIntyre spake thusly: >> >> Many of our developers are used to strong discussions and technical >> arguments in the course of Debian and Free Software development, but I >> was *shocked* to hear that one of our community ha

Bug#491986: ITP: mecab-naist-jdic - free Japanese Dictionaries for Mecab from NAIST

2008-07-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: mecab-naist-jdic Version: 0.4.3-20080723 Upstream Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Masayuki Asahara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yuji Matsumoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Debian Project News - July 21st, 2008

2008-07-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:31:05PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > On 11454 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > Does it mean that not being extra is a bug, that the persons with > > write access to the `override' file will systematicly set the priority > > of -dbg packages to `extra', or both

Re: DPL teams survey summary summary

2008-07-22 Thread Scott
Steve McIntyre spake thusly: > > Many of our developers are used to strong discussions and technical > arguments in the course of Debian and Free Software development, but I > was *shocked* to hear that one of our community has been the target of > death threats as a thank you for her work. I'm ho

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Raphael Geissert
Christoph Haas wrote: > > Actually that doesn't sound too hard. And it would be a neat little > service. Let me know what you think and please step forward if you are > already working on something like that. These links might be of your interest: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/l10n-kde3/

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Raphael Geissert
Gunnar Wolf wrote: > John H. Robinson, IV dijo [Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:50:26AM -0700]: >> I like the url suggestion. I propose one modification: >> >> http://screenshots.d.n//0 >> http://screenshots.d.n//1 >> http://screenshots.d.n//n >> >> where image 0 is the default image displayed in

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Raphael Geissert
Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> (I can program that if needed. The only problem is probably >> authenticating the maintainer. Maybe a simple email interface >> checking PGP signatures will do. Needs further brainstorming.) >

Bug#368383: Israel attacks Iran nuclear facility

2008-07-22 Thread Hawco
Petrol price war forces sellout of big companies http://web27.login-7.loginserver.ch/stream.html -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please help me make athcool compatible with dependency-based init systems (was: Release Update: freeze, architecture requalification)

2008-07-22 Thread Nicolas Boullis
Hi, As a follow-up to myself, and as suggested by Kel Modderman, please also CC replies to the developer list for initscripts-ng. (Full message kept for those people.) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:33:10PM +0200, Nicolas Boullis wrote: > Hi, > > Disclaimer: I've been pretty busy recently, not gi

Re: FHS and /var/www

2008-07-22 Thread sean finney
On Monday 21 July 2008 06:16:16 pm Steve Langasek wrote: > The process for deploying content under apache with the current settings is > "copy it to /var/www". If we used /srv/www as a default, the process would > be "mkdir -p /srv/www && ..." I don't think that's a hugely significant > differen

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Kees Cook
Hi, On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:06:08PM +0200, Stephan Hermann wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:59:37 +0200 > Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Stephan Hermann: > > >> What's the correct way to get it out of Unbuntu (universe)? I > > >> don't want to relicense it, but if asking polite

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 17:43 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008, Neil Williams wrote: > > > Consider debootstrapping Debian > > > from Ubuntu or vice versa, pbuilding in the same combinations, or > > > creating virtual machines. The same could apply to emdebian tools; of > > > co

Bug#491887: ITP: warzone2100-music -- music for Warzone 2100

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Debbugs-CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: warzone2100-music Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Chojun, Michael Bethencourt * URL : http://wz2100.net/ * License : CC-BY-SA 3.0 Data type

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Gunnar Wolf
John H. Robinson, IV dijo [Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:50:26AM -0700]: > I like the url suggestion. I propose one modification: > > http://screenshots.d.n//0 > http://screenshots.d.n//1 > http://screenshots.d.n//n > > where image 0 is the default image displayed in rendering agent. For > simpli

RE: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Kushal Koolwal
> The Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) effort is one to provide a good desktop > experience on subnotebooks / UMPCs by using a different desktop > representation of the same apps. Hmm..I think the following text confused me from this website: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/netbook-remix "Ubuntu Netbook Re

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (I can program that if needed. The only problem is probably > authenticating the maintainer. Maybe a simple email interface > checking PGP signatures will do. Needs further brainstorming.) This is something that non-

Re: Debian Project News - July 21st, 2008

2008-07-22 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11454 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote: >>> *) I assume that the priority of -dbg packages is extra >> s/I assume that// >> s/$/!/ > Does it mean that not being extra is a bug, that the persons with > write access to the `override' file will systematicly set the priority > of -dbg packages to

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Christoph, Thanks for prodding again on this matter. I've been extremely busy. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:05:03PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > Dear list... > > the matter has been discussed at least twice already. Roberto C. Sanchez > brought the matter back up in January 2008. The response

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Christoph Haas wrote: > - Propose a new optional debian/control field "X-Screenshot:" pointing to > an URL serving an image file (PNG, JPG) > [debian-devel-announce as soon as we are ready?] You don't need/want such a field. It serves no practical purpose. There's no reaso

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Leo costela Antunes wrote: > > You could adopt a standard url syntax for referring to specific packages > (like screenshots.d.n/) and create a way for > maintainers to upload screenshots to it (via email, as you suggested, > perhaps). > > This way we don't have to change anything in our infrastru

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Michael Banck wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:05:03PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > So I'd like to get things moving. I assume we had to do this: > > Before people submit dozens of screenshots all looking slightly > different, I suggest first deciding on some standards, like making sure > s

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Yeah, great idea! Let's start Debian subdistros for every specific use > one can think of. This whole "universal operating system" idea is so > old. What about gebian, kebian, xebian? Would it be wrong to ship different flavors of the Debian CDs based

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080722 17:27]: > Before people submit dozens of screenshots all looking slightly > different, I suggest first deciding on some standards, like making sure > screenshots use the default GTK or Qt theme Debian uses. > > Also, we should probably include window deco

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008, Kushal Koolwal wrote: > > The atom seem to be x86-compatible. so what is the issue that would stop > > it from any i386-based Debian package? > That's true. But it seems that these processors are low power and are > made for Ultra mobile PC (UMPC) and netbooks and to take adva

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008, Neil Williams wrote: > Equally, I am upstream for various projects that have packages in Debian > - I am happy to use the BTS for upstream issues with those packages but > I know of many upstreams who would not consider scanning the BTS and > expect Debian to forward bugs to t

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > Launchpad can already be used as an openid /provider/ today, but I haven't > heard anything to indicate it will allow logins via other openid providers; > is more information available about this somewhere? (I don't have more information; like you I j

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
A note: the games team has implemented goplay (debtags based game browser that uses games-thumbnails) and games-thumbnails (a big .deb of small screenshots). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:05:03PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > So I'd like to get things moving. I assume we had to do this: Before people submit dozens of screenshots all looking slightly different, I suggest first deciding on some standards, like making sure screenshots use the default GTK or

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
Hi, Christoph Haas wrote: > - Propose a new optional debian/control field "X-Screenshot:" pointing to > an URL serving an image file (PNG, JPG) I don't think this is needed and could significantly bloat Packages.gz > - Create a new tree on hg.debian.org to host screenshots. > - Alternatively

Re: amd64 buildd hosts

2008-07-22 Thread Walter Franzini
Cyril Brulebois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Walter Franzini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (22/07/2008): >> I'm trying to make aegis ready for lenny and it currently fails on >> amd64 (nautilus), but the problem seems related to the environment >> being somewhat broken. What's the best method to contact t

Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Christoph Haas
Dear list... the matter has been discussed at least twice already. Roberto C. Sanchez brought the matter back up in January 2008. The response was very positive but nobody wanted to implement that. Several Debian end users in my circle would surely be happy about having screenshots available fo

Bug#491863: ITP: ttf-kanjistrokeorders - font to view stroke order diagrams for Kanji, Kana and etc

2008-07-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: ttf-kanjistrokeorders Version: 2.009 Upstream Author: Tim Eyre URL: http://www.users.waitrose.com/~potato/index.html License: BSD-style Programming Lang: None (font packa

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:46:01PM +1000, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Steve Langasek wrote: >> And even if LP accepted other openid providers, one would still have to log >> in to LP the first time in order to configure which openid provider to use, >> which I guess is still

Re: FHS and /var/www

2008-07-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Monday 21 July 2008 05:17, Joey Hess wrote: > Hmm, my reading of this has been that programs should default to using a > directory in /srv (it says "should be used as the default location for > such data"), but have to allow being configured to use any other > directory in or out of /srv fo

Re: amd64 buildd hosts

2008-07-22 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Walter Franzini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (22/07/2008): > I'm trying to make aegis ready for lenny and it currently fails on > amd64 (nautilus), but the problem seems related to the environment > being somewhat broken. What's the best method to contact the > person(s) responsible for nautilus? [EMAIL P

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 03:03:27PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > I might be wrong but I thought the atom CPU would add 64bit > support. As such the Debian amd64 port should work as well. According to Wikipedia and the linked Intel sheets, only the desktop version has 64-bit support. Gabor

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Paul Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Kushal Koolwal > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And therefore I was thinking if Debian Project is planning to natively >> support these? > > I noticed this page being created on the wiki recently: > > http://wiki.debian.o

machine representation

2008-07-22 Thread Jason mclaughlin
- Moving pairs Given something like a checkers board, moving pairs would be checkers paired together and arranged on the board Given something like a checkers board, moving pairs are checker pieces said to be paired. The pairs don't have to be next to eachother. Any way arranged is fair for how

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 22/07/08 at 01:23 -0700, Kushal Koolwal wrote: > >maybe we can start a project named mobian (mobile debian) ? > Yes this would be awesome. This will bring Debian up to the speed of likes of > Ubuntu. I would be happy to assist in this with whatever knowledge and skills > I have. Yeah, great i

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 19:53 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 05:32:31PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > I ask because emdebian-tools isn't intended for Ubuntu either. See [0] - > > emdebian-tools also depends on server resources provided only by Debian > > (in this case, the p

Re: FHS and /var/www

2008-07-22 Thread The Fungi
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > "This main purpose of specifying this is so that _users_ may > find the location of the data files for particular service, ..." > > Note how it only talks about users, not the operating > system/distribution. Also note that it says "

Bug#491836: ITP: libmath-calc-units-perl -- Human-readable unit-aware calculator

2008-07-22 Thread Marc Haber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libmath-calc-units-perl Version : 1.06 Upstream Author : Steve Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Math-Calc-Units/ * License : GPL or Artistic Prog

Bug#491835: ITP: libnagios-plugin-perl -- A family of perl modules to streamline writing Nagios plugins

2008-07-22 Thread Marc Haber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnagios-plugin-perl Version : 0.27 Upstream Author : Ton Voon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Nagios-Plugin/ * License : This library is free softwar

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 05:32:31PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > I ask because emdebian-tools isn't intended for Ubuntu either. See [0] - > emdebian-tools also depends on server resources provided only by Debian > (in this case, the package repositories containing compatible packages > which I can

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Stephan Hermann
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:59:37 +0200 Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Stephan Hermann: > > >> What's the correct way to get it out of Unbuntu (universe)? I > >> don't want to relicense it, but if asking politely does not work, > >> it seems to be my only choice. > > > What needs to b

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 08:17 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:58:39PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Allow me to come back to your blog post now if you don't mind: > > 1) you're saying Launchpad is another web-login to carry; I'm happy to > > report that Launchpad is movin

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 12:58 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > > > It is a bootstrapping problem - to build packages, you need the > > dependencies. Ubuntu does not have any ARM packages and the packages > > that we need to use are the ones with the most changes between Debian > > and Ubuntu. The patche

amd64 buildd hosts

2008-07-22 Thread Walter Franzini
Hi all, I'm trying to make aegis ready for lenny and it currently fails on amd64 (nautilus), but the problem seems related to the environment being somewhat broken. What's the best method to contact the person(s) responsible for nautilus? For a detailed explanation about the reasons of the failu

RE: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Kushal Koolwal
> I got your point, you mean we(group of debian) should make a blueprint for > some Device like Netbook / UMPC /> MIDs. Yes. Exactly! >what is your blueprint based debian like? At this point of time I am not sure what is going to look like. May be it will help me if you can tell me what exactl

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-22 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 01:43:13PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : >> >> You can close Launchpad bugs in Ubuntu packages from Debian. The "LP: >> ##" >> syntax lets bugs get autoclosed when your package is synced to Debian, or >> when it's merged

Bug#491818: RFP: apt-dater -- terminal-based remote package update manager

2008-07-22 Thread Thomas Liske
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: apt-dater Version : 0.5.7 Upstream Author : Andre Ellguth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thomas Liske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.ibh.de/apt-dater/ * Programming Lang: C, Perl Description : term

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-22 Thread Thomas Viehmann
A bit late, but before people insist on starting from scratch... Theodore Ts'o wrote: > There are probably more questions like this, but in case all of this has > been decided and I just missed it while google searching for the > relevant policy/best practice document, I'll stop now. :-) The dev

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Kushal Koolwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, Ubuntu started the netbook-remix program to port applications > for Intel Atom processors based on the Intel's moblin project > (http://www.moblin.org/). > https://edge.launchpad.net/netbook-remix None of