Hi Peter,
Quoting peter green (2013-10-27 01:11:24)
Johannes Schauer wrote:
Until these two issues are fixed we will not be able to get an algorithmic
answer to the question of what constitutes the minimum required set of
packages.
There is also the complication of what I will call
Hello,
On Oct 26, 2013 7:15 AM, Uoti Urpala uoti.urp...@pp1.inet.fi wrote:
I am no longer willing to assume that Steve Langasek would act in good
faith in evaluating init systems; he has posted false claims about
systemd too many times for me to believe they would all be honest
mistakes, and
* Simon McVittie:
On 26/10/13 21:23, Florian Weimer wrote:
Session tracking includes suspending/hibernating, because logind has
a mechanism to let apps delay suspend, which is necessary for things
like closing the inherent race condition in lock the screensaver when
we suspend... oh, oops,
On 10/26/2013 09:17 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:02:00AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I'm fed up with repeated attempts to force components on the rest of the
system, but that's mostly a fault of Gnome's upstream
There seems to be a trend emanating from packages
Can this be taken off-list? I don't care either way, I'd still take his
points even if he wasn't.
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 10/26/2013 09:17 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:02:00AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I'm fed up
Excerpts from Jonathan Aquilina's message of 2013-10-25 23:36:22 -0700:
I would like to help in some capacity. Would working in a chrooted
environment or would one need a fully fledged os?
These days I have no standing machines of Debian. I do spin up cloud
instances often that I use to do
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org
* Package name: node-bytes
Version : 0.2.1
Upstream Author : TJ Holowaychuk t...@vision-media.ca
* URL : https://github.com/visionmedia/bytes.js
* License : Expat
Programming Lang:
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org (2013-10-27):
If you don't mind that I ask: are you a GNOME developer?
That comes to mind:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Olav+Vitters+Gnome
https://lists.debian.org/20131024192452.ga29...@bkor.dhs.org
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If you don't mind that I ask: are you a GNOME developer?
Olav is a gnome developer, yes.
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On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote:
Surely every maintainer of source packages involved in a Type 1 Self-Cycle
knows about this issue. Because Type 2 Self-Cycles are non-obvious we could in
the future (once build profiles are available) embed this information in the
pts
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 18:58, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I believe the reliability (DOS) issues that DNSSEC imposes coupled with
Please, not this again. If you say DNSSEC DOS issue, you must state all
the other issues that DNS has.
Not really, the security issues are already catered for and
On 10/27/2013 01:52 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote:
I still think that the Debian should be a technology leader.
Conservative, but technology leader. And DNSSEC adoption would help the
case.
Also the DSA has already enabled DANE (DNSSEC validated TLS certs) on
Debian's MTAs, the postfix 2.11 will
Johannes Schauer wrote:
Indeed, none of the Type 1 Self-Cycles are needed to bootstrap the core of
Debian. Unfortunately though, most of the Type 2 Self-Cycles are. You will
find
many surprising (at least to me) examples in the section of Type 2
Self-Cycles under the above link.
On the other
Hi Daniel,
Quoting Daniel Schepler (2013-10-27 16:06:43)
Johannes Schauer wrote:
Indeed, none of the Type 1 Self-Cycles are needed to bootstrap the core of
Debian. Unfortunately though, most of the Type 2 Self-Cycles are. You will
find
many surprising (at least to me) examples in the
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 08:57:54PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Oct 26, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
I'd find it very nice if we had, by default, DNSSEC resolving in Debian,
at least in the default configuration (whatever that means). By this,
I agree with the general principle,
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org
* Package name: node-send
Version : 0.1.4
Upstream Author : TJ Holowaychuk t...@vision-media.ca
* URL : https://github.com/visionmedia/send
* License : Expat
Programming Lang: JavaScript
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:14 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Oct 26, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
This really pinpoints the whole problem: What happened to the Unix
philosophy, with freedom of choice?
We killed it for good in 2008:
i do have a testing vps i can setup for you an account on to do tetsting
etc of mysql and maria db if it helps. I will also want to use it for my
own testing purposes along side.
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Clint Byrum spam...@debian.org wrote:
Excerpts from Jonathan Aquilina's message of
Am 27.10.2013 16:06, schrieb Daniel Schepler:
Johannes Schauer wrote:
Indeed, none of the Type 1 Self-Cycles are needed to bootstrap the core of
Debian. Unfortunately though, most of the Type 2 Self-Cycles are. You will
find
many surprising (at least to me) examples in the section of Type 2
On 10/24/2013 12:30 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013, at 20:16, Octavio Alvarez wrote:
On 22/10/13 09:18, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
I would suggest: caching-name-server
*-dns-server would be better, as it is specific enough to avoid name
collision in the future.
JFTR that
Hi, I am trying to build the alpha release of AST ksh on debian testing
but the compilation fails because it cannot find header files under
/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys.
Actually, if I create the symlink /usr/include/sys -
/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys the compilation succeeds.
I have
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 02:12:11AM +0300, Jukka Ruohonen wrote:
Indeed. And given the train wreck of contemporary Gnome, I fully welcome the
discussion on alternative default desktops. Some people are keen to rule out
the stakeholder issues, but a fact on the so-called agenda remains.
I
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 05:37:50PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
I don't mean to be rude but please read up on systemd and see the pros
of cons such as on LWN.net comments or any distro mailing list as many
are tired of systemd discussion and this wide ranging and much of the
Hi Giovanni,
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 07:36:15PM +0100, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote:
Hi, I am trying to build the alpha release of AST ksh on debian testing
but the compilation fails because it cannot find header files under
/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys.
Actually, if I create the symlink
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 02:23:42PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Thanks, I hadn't seen that team mentioned before anywhere. It looks
like the right place for this work to happen. Unfortunately it seems
rather dormant, as the packages they do have in place date back to
Ubuntu 12.04 (i.e.,
]] Steve Langasek
In the short term, this could be a committment from the systemd
maintainers to hold the package at version 204 until the dust settles
around cgroup manager interfaces[1].
With some time limit (3 months? 6 months?) I think I'd be ok with this.
--
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is
]] Steve Langasek
Formally, it only requires that the dbus services be available, which is
given by installing the systemd package, not by running it as init.
That's actually due to a missing feature in the dbus daemon: it should
either have a way to key off init/file system features (so I
On 28 October 2013 07:52, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
- /lib/udev/rules.d/99-systemd.rules - udev rules that will be active on
any system with /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd present (because of logind,
this
directory is not a good proxy for whether pid1 == systemd).
That's a bug
So my current understanding:
* Gnome use to depend on ConsoleKit.
* ConsoleKit is no longer maintained, and no one is interested in
maintaining it.
* As a result, Gnome switched to using the implementation from systemd
instead, as it has needed features and is actively being maintained.
* Some
On 10/27/2013 06:41 PM, Brian May wrote:
So my current understanding:
* Gnome use to depend on ConsoleKit.
* ConsoleKit is no longer maintained, and no one is interested in
maintaining it.
* As a result, Gnome switched to using the implementation from
systemd instead, as it has needed
* Gnome is said to work fine even on platforms that don't have
systemd installed.
My understanding from what I've read is that it works fine except in
that the features which the ConsoleKit-or-logind dependency provides
aren't available. That's derived from indirect statements from
Clint Byrum spam...@debian.org writes:
I am asking you, the Debian developers, to step up and help. I am
basically unable to contribute more than an hour a month now. There is a
new round of secret CVE bugs to fix, and some old bugs that need to be
handled. I think my October hour is about to
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Joey Hess wrote:
I do wish that some of the .. energy .. seen in these threads could be
used for something more interesting. For example, find a way to detect
touch screen systems, on which xfce is *not* pleasant, and don't install
a desktop task there, but a
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Joey Hess wrote:
I also wonder why unity is not being packaged in Debian..
Based on the logs for #609278 it appears there is a lot of interest
and some people working on packaging it but it sounds like it is hard
to build and requires patches in external
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