Re: howto handle jquery embedding by build-depends

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > You may have missed the maintainer's take on this: > > /usr/share/doc/doxygen/README.jquery > http://sources.debian.net/src/doxygen/1.8.6-2/debian/README.jquery Woops, I confused doxygen with docbook2x. The situation sounds similar though. -- b

Re: howto handle jquery embedding by build-depends

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Daniel Baumann wrote: > did i miss anything? You may have missed the maintainer's take on this: /usr/share/doc/doxygen/README.jquery http://sources.debian.net/src/doxygen/1.8.6-2/debian/README.jquery -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSC

howto handle jquery embedding by build-depends

2014-05-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
src:lxc contains documentation (*.sgml only) and build-depends on docbook2x, no jquery is needed or installed as build-depends. the resulting bin:lxc-dev then contains a *compressed* jquery.js put there by docbook2x. lintian detects this and warns about it (W: embedded-javascript-library). i think

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
Vincent Bernat writes: > When I get some time to work on my packages and I see this: > > http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/pkg-roundcube-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org.html#roundcube Yes, it's disheartening to see such files in a source distribution from upstream. Fortunately the solut

Bug#747372: ITP: golang-etcd -- Go client for etcd

2014-05-07 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jelmer Vernooij * Package name: golang-etcd Version : 0.2.0~rc1 Upstream Author : CoreOS Inc. * URL : http://github.com/coreos/go-etcd * License : Apache v2 Programming Lang: Go Description : Go client for etcd C

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 8 mai 2014 01:11 +0200, Jérémy Lal  : >> This is to be compared with the time spent by the maintainer to deal >> with this problem by adding files or removing files from the source >> package without affecting the resulting binary package. This may keep >> some contributors away from Debian. >

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le jeudi 08 mai 2014 à 00:57 +0200, Vincent Bernat a écrit : > ❦ 7 mai 2014 17:41 CEST, The Wanderer : > > > Specifically, it violates my (pre-this-thread) expectation of what it is > > that I get from 'apt-get source'. Prior to reading this thread, it would > > never have occurred to me to thi

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 7 mai 2014 17:41 CEST, The Wanderer  : > Specifically, it violates my (pre-this-thread) expectation of what it is > that I get from 'apt-get source'. Prior to reading this thread, it would > never have occurred to me to think that something obtained that way > might not be actually part of the

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Philipp Kern's message of 2014-05-07 15:00:43 -0700: > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Philipp Kern writes ("Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL"): > > > Does that mean that people calling one of these from a script or a web > > > service (e.g. i

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Riley Baird
> Yes. But this isn't as bad as you think, because the source > availability requirement exists only if you modify the AGPL'd > software. I don't think that this is the case. Firstly, because it leaves a practical loophole in the AGPL: -Person A takes some software under the AGPL. -Person A priv

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 7 May 2014 15:56:06 +0200 Bálint Réczey wrote: > 2014-05-07 14:37 GMT+02:00 Thorsten Glaser : > > On Wed, 7 May 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > >> Yes. But this isn't as bad as you think, because the source > >> availability requirement exists only if you modify the AGPL'd > >> software. >

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 7 May 2014 00:05:51 +0200 Philipp Kern wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 11:05:11AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Ghostscript have changed its license from GPL-3+ to AGPL-3+ since > > version 9.07. I am really disappointed and worried by this license switch... :-( Even though the

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Philipp Kern writes ("Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL"): > > Does that mean that people calling one of these from a script or a web > > service (e.g. invoices using texlive-bin) will need to adhere to the > > AGPL as well? > Y

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 10:48:46PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > texlive-bin uses the software (gs), As you, yourself, said, the > difference between the AGPL and the GPL is that the AGPL protects the > user, not only the people that download the software. This means that by > some interpr

Re: standalone logind (Re: Bits from the systemd + GNOME sprint)

2014-05-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed: > Hi, > > Kevin Chadwick: > > > * last but not least: if you do have a tangible reason for your post, i.e. > > > one of your packages doesn't work with the way systemd is packaged, > > > kindly tell us which package that is and what you're

Re: Module from /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf not loaded after systemd upgrade

2014-05-07 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Ben, tl;dr: It was indeed blacklisted by a leftover config file from the fglrx-driver package. Am 2014-05-06 01:46, schrieb Ben Hutchings: Why radeon is not loaded at boot anymore is a mystery to me. All other modules from /etc/modules (symlinked as /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf) are ac

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 07/05/2014 18:59, Bas Wijnen wrote: > >>> * texlive-bin (texlive-binaries) >> >> Actually with this one is worst, since the LPPL is not compatible with >> the GPL, lets not even talk about GPLv3 or AGPLv3 :-/ > > If it's incompatible with the GPL and the way they distributed it was > accept

Re: Bits from the systemd + GNOME sprint

2014-05-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jordi, thanks for the informative report, it seems to have been an awesome sprint! On Freitag, 2. Mai 2014, Jordi Mallach wrote: > Besides this, quite a few more topics were discussed, like trying to make > our experimental packages always installable... if you think it would be useful, I'd b

Content marketing infographic

2014-05-07 Thread Will M.
Hey there, I found you guys on Google while researching for SEO companies! We created an infographic titled “What Makes the Perfect Blog Post?” that would be great for an SEO audience. Here’s the link: http://blogpros.com/blog/2014/05/makes-perfect-blog-post-infographic What do you think of it?

Bug#747357: ITP: libautobox-junctions-perl -- module providing autoboxified junction-style operators

2014-05-07 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libautobox-junctions-perl Version : 0.001 Upstream Author : Chris Weyl * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/autobox-Junctio

Bug#747356: ITP: lava-server -- Linaro Automated Validation Architecture server

2014-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: lava-server Version : 2014.05 Upstream Author : 2010-2013, Linaro Limited * URL : http://www.linaro.org/projects/test-validation/ * License : GPL, LGPL, AGPL Programming Lang: Python Desc

Bug#747355: ITP: lava-dispatcher -- Linaro Automated Validation Architecture dispatcher

2014-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: lava-dispatcher Version : 2014.05 Upstream Author : 2010-2013, Linaro Limited * URL : http://www.linaro.org/projects/test-validation/ * License : GPL, LGPL Programming Lang: Python Descri

Bug#747353: ITP: lavapdu -- LAVA PDU client and daemon

2014-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: lavapdu Version : 0.0.3 Upstream Author : Matthew Hart * URL : http://www.linaro.org/projects/test-validation/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : LAVA PDU client

Bug#747351: ITP: lava-coordinator -- LAVA Coordinator daemon

2014-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: lava-coordinator Version : 0.1.5 Upstream Author : 2010-2013, Linaro Limited * URL : http://www.linaro.org/projects/test-validation/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description

Bug#747350: ITP: lava-tool -- command line utility for LAVA

2014-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: lava-tool Version : 0.10 Upstream Author : 2010-2013, Linaro Limited * URL : http://www.linaro.org/projects/test-validation/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Python Description : co

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 05:18:36PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > the problem is for the package maintainer to assert that *is* the > corresponding source for a particular work. > > We should not, IMO, accept such an assertion without an independently > verifiable guarantee that can be automated for e

Re: gnutls28 transition

2014-05-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2014-05-06 Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 5 May 2014 18:53, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > >> Le dimanche, 4 mai 2014, 02.14:17 peter green a écrit : > >>> Personally I'd add a (build-)depends on the relicensed gmp in the next > >>> gnutls28 upload. That way package

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 06:44:16PM -0700, Jose Luis Rivas wrote: > I saw it and I fail to see what exactly they want to achieve with this > change since AGPLv3 is for web apps. I license almost all my work as AGPL, because I like that clause. The idea of the GPL is to make sure that all end users

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/07/2014 11:06 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > I submit that in the case of minified javascript libraries that are > *already available* in Debian, and that are symlinked (in the way as > described before) but ship in a source tarball as convenien

Re: Bug #702005: Where can i get more attention on this?

2014-05-07 Thread Luis Alejandro Martínez Faneyth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone? Matthias, perhaps? Greetings, On 06/05/14 20:05, Luis Alejandro Martínez Faneyth wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm a little worried about bug #702005 and the lack of attention > it's getting. > > This bug is marked as resolved, and indeed it ha

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op woensdag 7 mei 2014 23:18:00 schreef Ben Finney: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > The point is, I'm having a hard time buying the argument that if the > > minified javascript was unmodified, and if the non-minified javascript > > library is in the archive (or a version of said javascript library >

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi, 2014-05-07 14:37 GMT+02:00 Thorsten Glaser : > On Wed, 7 May 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> Yes. But this isn't as bad as you think, because the source >> availability requirement exists only if you modify the AGPL'd >> software. > > Which you may want to do, in order to patch a security issue

Re: debconf reconfiguration from postinst of another package

2014-05-07 Thread Philip Hands
Wouter Verhelst writes: > Op woensdag 7 mei 2014 12:19:31 schreef Philip Hands: ... >> we could perhaps give public variables a >> version number, or only allow questions with such a version number as >> part of their name be manipulated from elsewhere. > > I don't think debconf needs to care abo

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
Wouter Verhelst writes: > The point is, I'm having a hard time buying the argument that if the > minified javascript was unmodified, and if the non-minified javascript > library is in the archive (or a version of said javascript library > which will function in exactly the same way), that the min

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-07 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 7 May 2014 01:19, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hi Matthias, > > your answer exemplifies very well what I mean with “pressed by the machine”… > > I will reply on one point only. > > Le Wed, May 07, 2014 at 01:46:32AM +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : >> Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles Plessy: >> >

Re: debconf reconfiguration from postinst of another package

2014-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Wouter Verhelst > You *could* have a script do db_set to change the defaults > and then run the postinst script (through dpkg-reconfigure), but that > would run against the spirit of 10.7.4 IMO. That won't help, since dpkg-reconfigure will run the config script that should grab data from t

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 7 May 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > Yes. But this isn't as bad as you think, because the source > availability requirement exists only if you modify the AGPL'd > software. Which you may want to do, in order to patch a security issue you just found, locally, before filing it upstream. Or be

Re: debconf reconfiguration from postinst of another package

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op woensdag 7 mei 2014 12:19:31 schreef Philip Hands: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > > One way this could work is by adding a SETOTHER message (name could > > probably be better), which asks debconf to change a value for a given > > debconf question in another package ONLY if the answer to

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL"): > Philipp Kern writes ("Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL"): > > Does that mean that people calling one of these from a script or a web > > service (e.g. invoices using texlive-bin) will need to adhere to the > > AGPL as well

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Philipp Kern writes ("Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL"): > Does that mean that people calling one of these from a script or a web > service (e.g. invoices using texlive-bin) will need to adhere to the > AGPL as well? Yes. But this isn't as bad as you think, because the source availabili

Re: debconf reconfiguration from postinst of another package

2014-05-07 Thread Philip Hands
Wouter Verhelst writes: ... > One way this could work is by adding a SETOTHER message (name could > probably be better), which asks debconf to change a value for a given > debconf question in another package ONLY if the answer to this question > was never explicitly set to a particular value by

Re: debconf reconfiguration from postinst of another package

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op woensdag 7 mei 2014 12:59:57 schreef Jonas Smedegaard: > Hi Wouter, > > Quoting Wouter Verhelst (2014-05-07 11:34:23) > > > What you seem to want is a unified and standardized way for one > > package to provide an API for changing things about how the package > > will function, to other packag

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op woensdag 7 mei 2014 20:14:50 schreef Ben Finney: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > Op vrijdag 2 mei 2014 15:58:37 schreef Paul Tagliamonte: > > > If you were to 'update' the image, how would you do it? What things > > > would you need? Include that. Think about what you'd need when you > > > fork

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > If a dependency and a symlink exists, however, it's clear that the > > > maintainer meant to say "source is over there". > > As I've tried to show above, "over there" is not helpful. "over there" > can go away, can be u

Re: debconf reconfiguration from postinst of another package

2014-05-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Wouter, Quoting Wouter Verhelst (2014-05-07 11:34:23) > What you seem to want is a unified and standardized way for one > package to provide an API for changing things about how the package > will function, to other packages. Correct. > While a worthwhile effort, I don't think this is what

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 07 May 2014 20:14:50 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > Op vrijdag 2 mei 2014 15:58:37 schreef Paul Tagliamonte: > > > If you were to 'update' the image, how would you do it? What > > > things would you need? Include that. Think about what you'd need > > > when you

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
Wouter Verhelst writes: > Op vrijdag 2 mei 2014 15:58:37 schreef Paul Tagliamonte: > > If you were to 'update' the image, how would you do it? What things > > would you need? Include that. Think about what you'd need when you > > fork the project. > > Does that mean I should include "wget"? I'm

Bug#747297: ITP: neopi -- web shell code detection

2014-05-07 Thread Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez * Package name: neopi Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Ben Hagen * URL : https://github.com/Neohapsis/NeoPI * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : web shell code detection

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:07:53AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > No. The requirement is that the source is part of the source package. [citation needed] The only requirement I know of is that the source is part of *a* source package, not necessarily the same one. (consider "Built-Using") --

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op vrijdag 2 mei 2014 15:58:37 schreef Paul Tagliamonte: > If you were to 'update' the image, how would you do it? What things > would you need? Include that. Think about what you'd need when you fork > the project. Does that mean I should include "wget"? Most minified externally-produced javascr

Re: debconf reconfiguration from postinst of another package

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Jonas, [re-sending, since my first attempt did not make the list] Op vrijdag 18 april 2014 12:43:40 schreef Jonas Smedegaard: > Thanks, but (again) I am sorry if it was not clear: The *question* is > about *debconf* irregardless of the *example* involving other details. > > Here's another exa

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
Wouter Verhelst writes: > [W]hile I agree that this is a problem for things like precompiled > Windows binaries, I'm not so sure when it regards convenience copies > of minified javascript libraries. After all, there are many other > packages whose upstream source ships with convenience copies of

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Charles, Op zaterdag 26 april 2014 14:29:44 schreef Charles Plessy: > Le Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:11:58PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > > > > On Sat, Apr 26

Re: Some packages blocked for the mpich transition

2014-05-07 Thread Anton Gladky
Hi Julien, thanks for pushing these transitions! Last med-fichier upload was just to fix autopkgtest, so I think if you let it go, it should not hurt. Thanks Anton 2014-05-07 8:46 GMT+02:00 Julien Cristau : > Hi, > > the mpich transition (along with the scalapack, blacs-mpi and superlu > tran