Re: Removing more packages from unstable

2024-08-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-08-20 Helmut Grohne wrote: > Hi fellow developers, > (modified resend, as first attempt didn't arrive) > please allow me to open a can of worms. Package removal from unstable. > Deciding when it is time to remove a package from unstable is difficult. > There may be users still and it is

Re: Vendoring an unmaintained library?

2024-07-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-07-03 Alexandre Rossi wrote: [...] > #1073005 asks for the vendoring back of an unvendored library, arguing > that this particular library is unmaintained upstream, implying that the > vendored fork is better maintained. > My view on this is that if the vendored fork is better maintained,

Re: autoconf 2.72 to unstable?

2024-06-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-06-14 Gürkan Myczko wrote: [...] > Have never done mass bug filings, any easy way, preferably something copy > pastable, > non-interactive. Hej, How about mass-bug(1) in devscripts? cu Andreas

Re: Bug#966621: Make /tmp/ a tmpfs and cleanup /var/tmp/ on a timer by default [was: Re: systemd: tmpfiles.d not cleaning /var/tmp by default]

2024-05-29 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-05-29 Marco d'Itri wrote: > On May 28, Andreas Metzler wrote: >> I think it is bad choice to deliberately have different behavior for >> freshly installed and upgraded systems. Offering upgrades has always >> been one of the major selling points of Debian, an

Re: Bug#966621: Make /tmp/ a tmpfs and cleanup /var/tmp/ on a timer by default [was: Re: systemd: tmpfiles.d not cleaning /var/tmp by default]

2024-05-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-05-28 Luca Boccassi wrote: [...] > - existing installations pre-trixie will get an orphaned tmpfiles.d in > /etc/ that keeps the existing behaviour unchanged (no cleanup of > /var/tmp) [...] Hello, I think it is bad choice to deliberately have different behavior for freshly installed an

Re: Status of the t64 transition

2024-04-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-04-18 Sebastian Ramacher wrote: [...] > Let's start with the first category. Those are packages that could be > binNMUed, but there are issues that make those rebuilds not have the > desired effect. This list include packages that > * are BD-Uninstallabe, > * FTBFS but with out ftbfs-tag

Re: Some t64 libraries already in testing; I'm confused

2024-03-31 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-03-31 Andreas Metzler wrote: [...] > Afaict these are broken, though: [...] > tnat64 0.06-1 false positive, grep error.

Re: Some t64 libraries already in testing; I'm confused

2024-03-31 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-03-31 Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2024-03-31 Sven Joachim wrote: [...] >> Unfortunately the other four are not similar, but rather lacked a build >> dependency on dpkg-dev (>= 1.22.5) which would have prevented their >> migration to testing. Testing users on arme

Re: Some t64 libraries already in testing; I'm confused

2024-03-31 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-03-31 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2024-03-31 06:54 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > On 2024-03-30 Julian Gilbey wrote: [...] > >> Looking through testing, I see the following t64 libraries present: > >> libaio1t64 > >> libfyba0t64 > >

Re: Some t64 libraries already in testing; I'm confused

2024-03-30 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-03-30 Julian Gilbey wrote: > My very limited understanding of this major transition was that the > t64 libraries are being held in unstable until (almost) everything is > ready, at which point there will be a coordinated migration into > testing. But I've now been asked to upgrade somethi

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-03-31 Wookey wrote: [...] > e.g. I remember it took me years to realise that I used _my_ public > key for signing, [...] Good morning, s/public/private/ - $recipient can then use your public key to verify the sig. cu Andreas -- `What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other

Re: Debian testing/unstable users: beware of Firefox critical CVEs

2024-03-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-03-24 Samuel Henrique wrote: > Hello everyone, > Given our current time_t transition happening, which means packages > are blocked from migrating to testing for weeks, and that unstable > updates have become harder to apply, two critical CVE fixes for > Firefox became impossible to get it

Re: dpkg --verify not helpful?

2024-03-02 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-03-02 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2024-03-02 08:47 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2024-03-02 08:01 +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: >>> iirc it was recently proposed to add a suggestion to run dpkg --verify >>> to the trixie upgrade notes to find missing

dpkg --verify not helpful?

2024-03-01 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, iirc it was recently proposed to add a suggestion to run dpkg --verify to the trixie upgrade notes to find missing files due to the usr-merge transition. (Cannot find the reference right now). However I just had file loss (due to libuuid changing its name to t64 and back again) and dpkg --

Re: time_t and backports

2024-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-02-26 John Goerzen wrote: > Hi folks, > As a person that frequently uploads to bookworm-backports, I am > wondering how we are handling the time_t transition there? > The picture of synchronization with testing is a little complicated over > there. If you change the default build flags,

Re: Confusion over t64 migration

2024-02-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-02-09 John Goerzen wrote: [...] > So at the moment, I am unclear why there are bugs filed with severity > serious that apparently cannot be fixed. Shouldn't they be normal with > a tag wontfix until the relevant dpkg changes are in unstable? > To put it another way, I'm not seeing why we

Bug#1063329: libselinux1t64: breaks system in upgrade from unstable

2024-02-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-02-06 Helmut Grohne wrote: > Package: libselinux1t64 [...]> This looks fairly innocuous. We create a minimal sid chroot and install > libselinux1t64 using apt. What could possibly go wrong? Well, apt thinks > that it would be a good idea to avoid coinstalling breaking packages and > first

Re: 64-bit time_t transition in progress

2024-02-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-02-06 Alberto Garcia wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 11:05:46PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > In fact, none of the t64 binaries currently being uploaded > > to experimental have the final ABI either, we're just using > > experimental to clear binary NEW. > I was having a look at two o

Re: Bug#698988: O: nvi - 4.4BSD re-implementation of vi

2024-02-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-02-05 Tobias Heider wrote: [...] > As an active nvi user I would love to step up and help, but the biggest > problem I see is that the choice of upstream project. Since the original > is gone there isn't a clear successor. > The BSDs all have their own forks which diverged over time (and

Re: 64-bit time_t transition in progress

2024-02-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-02-03 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > On 2024-02-02 08:43:52 [-0800], Steve Langasek wrote: >> debian-devel-announce wouldn't let me attach the file, but for those on >> debian-devel at least, you can find the dd-list of to-be-NMUed source >> packages attached. > OpenSSL is on the lis

Re: Policy: versioning between releases

2024-01-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-01-21 Matthias Urlichs wrote: > On 21.01.24 15:34, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > However according to our release notes we only support upgrading from > > release x to x+1, skipping releases is not allowed. > I'm not talking about skipping releases but about partial

Re: Policy: versioning between releases

2024-01-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-01-21 Matthias Urlichs wrote: > question: policy 3.5 states, rather unequivocally, >Every package must specify the dependency information about other >packages that are required for the first to work correctly. > Now … does that apply to crossing release boundaries? Specifically,

Re: Bug#1058807: ITP: acme.sh -- Pure unix shell script implementing ACME client protocol

2023-12-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-12-16 Jérémy Lal wrote: [...] > * Package name: acme.sh > Version : 3.0.7 > Upstream Contact: w...@neilpang.com > * URL : https://acme.sh > * License : GPL-3 > Programming Lang: Shell > Description : Pure unix shell script implementing ACME clien

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-12-06 Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: [...] > May I also do a mass bug file against the above set of packages, at > wishlist priority to nudge maintainers (or QA or Janitor) to make an > upload? > ideally bundled with any other reasonable modernisations. As such an > algorithm indicates that th

Re: Linking coreutils against OpenSSL

2023-11-11 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-11-11 Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 11:50:31AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > you seem to have missed/deleted the paragraph where Ansgar suggested how > > to do this *without* tradeoff. ("explicitly disable/enable build options > > per arch&q

Re: Linking coreutils against OpenSSL

2023-11-11 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-11-10 Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 03:10:42PM +0100, Ansgar wrote: >> Please avoid producing different results depending on the build >> environment. That just results in non-reproducible issues in unclean >> environments (suddenly different dependencies, different featur

Re: mutt removed from testing while the bug was closed (fixed)

2023-10-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-10-26 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-10-26 02:03:49 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: [...] > Hmm... This seems to be due to a bug in the BTS when the bug was > reopened for stable. At > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051563#25 > "Bug reopened Request was from Antonio

Re: Hyphens in man pages

2023-10-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-10-15 Wookey wrote: [...] > OK. So I read all that, and learned a whole load of stuff I was quite > happy not knowing about. > However despite reading it all, and especially this bit: > "Whenever I've maintained man pages in roff I tend to be precise in > > the usage of - and \-, but TBH

Re: Proposed MBF: Removal of libfreetype6-dev (causing FTBFS)

2023-08-19 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-08-19 Diederik de Haas wrote: > [please CC me as I'm not subscribed to debian-devel] > On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 21:45:13 +1000, Hugh McMaster wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 00:07, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2023 at 22:38:20 +1000, Hugh McMaster wrote: > > > > Currently, t

Re: Potential MBF: packages failing to build twice in a row

2023-08-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-08-15 Boyuan Yang wrote: [...] > where .po file that contains translation is updated every time, causing dpkg- > source to complain the diff and quit when building twoce in a row. > Take https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ibus-array as an example. The upstream > project does not include .pot

guile-gnutls not picked up by sid autobuilders

2023-08-11 Thread Andreas Metzler
Good morning, guile-gnutls was uploaded almost a week ago to sid, but the unstable autobuilders seem to ignore it. https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=guile-gnutls Is there anything I can do? The experimental uploads were picked up seamlessly. cu Andreas -- `What a good friend you ar

Re: /usr-merge: continuous archive analysis

2023-08-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-08-01 Helmut Grohne wrote: [...] > In moving crontab_setgid from lib to libexec, you effectively evade the > moratorium and are entitled to also move from / to /usr. This is an > action you can do right now. The move from /lib to /usr/libexec prevents > the file loss scenario that spurred

Re: Empty Contents files for bookworm-updates

2023-07-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-07-15 Markus Falb wrote: > Hi, it’s Markus, > …snip > Index of /debian/dists/bookworm-updates/main [...] > The size of the gz files is 20, i.e. the unzipped files are empty. > Is this by purpose? Afaict (from looking at the Packages files) there are no Packagages yet in bookworm-updates

Re: Second take at DEP17 - consensus call on /usr-merge matters

2023-06-29 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-06-28 Helmut Grohne wrote: > The category of generic changes includes > imposing an ordering on initial unpacks (e.g. base-files first). Hello, I have not dug deeply into this but in the back of my mind a voice is vaguely remebering that we already had multiple times wished we had this i

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-06-19 Sven Joachim wrote: [...] > If my above statements about debootstrap are correct, this will result > in no dhcp-client being installed at all by debootstrap unless the > override bug also requests bumping dhcpcd-base's priority from optional > to important. Not complety true. deboot

Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal

2023-06-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-06-07 Paul Wise wrote: [...] > There was another option mentioned earlier in the thread that could > help resolve some aspects of these conflicts; make 32-bit arches > (or just i386) support both time_t ABIs, like glibc and Linux do. > The 64-bit time_t ABI would be the default but the 32

Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal

2023-05-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-05-20 Wookey wrote: > On 2023-05-17 20:14 -0500, Richard Laager wrote: >> They mention, "We likely have to complete Modern C porting first to remove >> any instances of -Wimplicit-function-declaration otherwise the redirects in >> glibc for e.g. time->time64 won't actually work." >> Has t

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-05-12 Ansgar wrote: [...] > The core issue as I see it is as follows: [...] > Do you think this summary of the issue is right? I think Simon's reading of the situation as posted in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1035904#30 makes a lot of sense. cu Andreas -- `What a g

Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg

2023-05-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-05-05 Simon Richter wrote: [...] > My proposal would be to put the onus on the client registering the > diversion: [...] > - packages are encouraged to register both diversions Hello, That seems to be a rather ugly user interface, ("There is dpkg-divert on Debian, but because the usrmer

Re: Many packages will install apache2

2023-01-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-01-18 Jérémy Lal wrote: > I just keep on removing apache2 on my system, and find it bad that some > updates will reinstall it. > It seems to be coming from dependencies on "apache2 | httpd-cgi" which > favors the former (I have some httpd-cgi installed, just not apache2). > Is it okay to o

Re: depends-on-obsolete-package lsb-base

2023-01-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-01-18 Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Lintian just started erroring on 'depends-on-obsolete-package > lsb-base' on many of my packages yesterday. There are no new uploads [...] > Does somebody know what is going on? > Example: > E: mariadb-server: depends-on-obsolete-package Depends: lsb-base (>

Re: SONAME bumps (transitions) always via experimental

2023-01-10 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-01-10 Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Graham" == Graham Inggs writes: > Graham> Hi All > Graham> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 00:33, Bastian Blank > wrote: > Graham> Would it be a bad thing to require all uploads that need to > Graham> go through NEW (source and binary) to target e

Re: Boost 1.81 in Debian Testing

2023-01-04 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-01-04 Markus Blatt wrote: > Dear Anton, > Am Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 06:24:38AM +0100 schrieb Anton Gladky: > > I am pleased to announce that the latest version of Boost, version > > 1.81, is now available in Debian Testing [1]. > Thanks a lot. >> We encourage all contributors whose packag

Re: Please, minimize your build chroots

2022-12-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-12-16 Santiago Vila wrote: > Greetings. > I'm doing archive-wide rebuilds again. > I've just filed 21 bugs with subject "Missing build-depends on tzdata" > in bookworm (as tzdata is not build-essential). > This is of course not fun for the maintainers, but it's also not fun > for people

Re: propose: provide "docker" package as docker, not wmdocker

2022-12-11 Thread Andreas Metzler
Gioele Barabucci wrote: > On 05/12/22 18:19, Andreas Metzler wrote: >> how do you avoid that people who still have got the transitional docker >> (--> wmdocker) package installed end up being upgraded to real docker >> (from docker.io)? > How was the transition from

Re: Is an autogenerated configure shell script non-editable source (Was: Bug#1025739: hmmer2: missing source for configure)

2022-12-10 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-12-09 Andreas Tille wrote: [...] > Thanks to Alexander Sulfrian who pointed out the Git repository > featuring old tags that were obviously taken over from SVN I was proven > wrong with the statement that there is no configure.ac any more. > Unfortunately this is no simple drop-in with mo

Re: propose: provide "docker" package as docker, not wmdocker

2022-12-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-12-04 Hideki Yamane wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to propose wmdocker package would rename its source package > from docker to wmdocker, and then docker.io package provides docker > binary package and transitional docker.io package. > Most of users who is not Debian expert still confusing

Re: Pre-Depends usage

2022-11-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-11-14 Guerkan Myczko wrote: > I would like to use Pre-Depends in the cadabra2 packge so it'll not break > the jupyterhub notebook. It gets broken due to the package python3-notebook > creating a symlink for the codemirror at > /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/notebook/static/components > Now

Re: Transition: pkg-config to pkgconf: next steps

2022-10-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
you! Attached is a dd-list of those packages listed in the "Failures > only" page in case somebody wants to have a quick glance whether their package > is affected. > Thanks! > cheers, josch [...] > Andreas Metzler >enblend-enfuse (U) Works for me. - It is

Re: Proposed MBF: wxwidgets3.2 transition

2022-09-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-09-15 Scott Talbert wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2022, Andreas Metzler wrote: [...] > > A successful build is no guarantee for a working packaging though. e.g. > > hugin errs out immediately when built with the newer wxWidgets. > That is certainly true - and probably anot

Re: Proposed MBF: wxwidgets3.2 transition

2022-09-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-09-13 Scott Talbert wrote: > Hi, > wxWidgets 3.2 (a new API/ABI stable release) has been released a few months > ago and is now packaged in unstable as wxwidgets3.2. Upstream has stopped > supporting wxWidgets 3.0, so the Debian wx team would like to migrate all wx > package users to wxw

Re: Bug#1019721: libopenmpi-dev: Cannot uninstall rmdir: failed to remove '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/fortran/gfortran': No such file or directory

2022-09-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-09-14 Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 07:41 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: >> Is there a way to find all packages built against broken dh-fortran- >> mod so all affected packages can be rebuilt? > I am not sure of the correct regex, but the binary package contr

Bug#1019721: libopenmpi-dev: Cannot uninstall rmdir: failed to remove '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/fortran/gfortran': No such file or directory

2022-09-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
Package: libopenmpi-dev Version: 4.1.4-2 Severity: serious Hello, it seems to be impossible to uninstall libopenmpi-dev: (sid)root@argenau:/# dpkg --purge libopenmpi-dev (Reading database ... 25167 files and directories currently installed.) Removing libopenmpi-dev:amd64 (4.1.4-2) ... rmdir: fail

Re: Q: systemd-timer vs cron

2022-03-11 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-03-12 Hideki Yamane wrote: > Is there any suggestion or guideline for pacakges that contain > both systemd-timer unit setting and cronjob? Don't they conflict > or not Hello, You want to skip running the cronjob on systems with systemd as init systems. e.g. exim's daily cronjob works

Re: MBF: valgrind-if-available

2022-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-02-27 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 01:40:48AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] >> This should use "command -v", not which, I think? > No, and the recent debacle revealed enough reasons that I'm pondering a MBF > to change that _back_ in packages which followed the bad a

Re: Why? "Marked for autoremoval on 24 March due to xdelta3: #965883"

2022-02-24 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-02-24 Osamu Aoki wrote: > I favor moving away from pre-dh7 packages and I support people pushing for > it. But I > am in intriguing situation with this effort. Can someone help me. > At: https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi > I see: > Osamu Aoki >debian-history: buggy

Re: using epoch to repair versioning of byacc package

2022-01-24 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-01-23 Thomas Dickey wrote: > From: Richard Laager >> On 1/23/22 10:04, Thomas Dickey wrote: [...] >> I see no other way to correct this but to add an epoch. > agreed. Is there some way to further improve the transition? >> As we see in this case, switching from version numbers to date-

Bug#996232: ITP: android-file-transfer-linux -- Android File Transfer for Linux

2021-10-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-10-12 YaNing Lu wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > * Package name: android-file-transfer-linux > Version : 4.2.0 > Upstream Author : Vladimir > * URL : https://github.com/whoozle/android-file-transfer-l

Re: dh_install -X not excluding any files

2021-09-14 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-09-14 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I'm currently working on packaging KIWI [1] for Debian where I need to > exclude on of the binaries from being installed into /usr/bin. > I tried using "dh_install -Xkiwicompat" [2] but that doesn't work no > matter what variation I'm trying, the b

Re: Debhelper and /lib/systemd vs /usr/lib/systemd

2021-08-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-08-25 Niels Thykier wrote: [...] > As I understand it, the "have usrmerge package patch the dpkg database" > approach will only work if we ensure that each and every package stop > using / in bookworm+1. Hello, you missed the second part of the "plan". Editing dpkg database syncs the db

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-08-26 Timo Röhling wrote: [...] > However, Guillem also seems to think that dpkg can manage file > symlinks in a real directory better than an directory symlinks in /, > which is why he proposed symlink farms in the first place. Hello, Afaiui, the symlink farm would just work from dpkg's

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-22 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-08-22 Guillem Jover wrote: [...] > The huge majority of files under /lib* (which is the actual bulk of them) > should require no symlink farms. Many of the ones under /bin and /sbin > (we are talking about around 240 packages here) might be switchable w/o > compat symlinks after careful co

Re: Planning for libidn shared library version transition

2021-07-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-07-27 Simon Josefsson wrote: > Hi! I'm now resuming work on the libidn shared library transition, and > I'm ready for the upload to experimental. I wanted to ping back here to [...] Hello Simon, thank you, looks good to me. cu Andreas

Re: merged /usr

2021-07-27 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-07-27 Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 02:13:33PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: [...] >> Afaiu you are suggesting to do somethink like this instead and >> immediately post bulleye release. >> >> pr

Re: merged /usr

2021-07-27 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-07-27 Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >>> I've suggested previously that we can easily make it RC for bookworm to >>> have a file outside a limited set of directories (

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-07-20 Guillem Jover wrote: > On Mon, 2021-07-19 at 16:41:42 +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: >> So what what is actually the roadmap after the bullseye release? >> What is the way forward? Should I rather file bugs with patches >> against individual packages to move their fil

Re: Reconsider sending ITP bugs to debian-devel: a new list?

2021-06-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-06-12 Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 2021/06/11 12:33, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Jonathan explained that it wasn't easy for him due to reading over NNTP > > and I also think that it's a bad default to have lists where custom > > filtering is desirable for many. > Ah, I haven't used NNTP in

Re: Planning for libidn shared library version transition

2021-05-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-05-26 Guillem Jover wrote: > On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 19:43:21 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: [...] > I'd probably instead make this a versioned Provides, so that the > transitional package can be removed right away from systems, it does > not interfere with the transitio

Re: Planning for libidn shared library version transition

2021-05-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-05-24 Simon Josefsson wrote: > Hi! This is for post-bullseye, but I appreciate guidance if anyone has > time. Shared library version transitions trigger uncertainty in me. > I want to upload a new upstream libidn release into Debian, but upstream > has done a shared library transition.

Re: please document why a package has been dropped from Testing/Bullseye

2021-05-08 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-05-09 Harald Dunkel wrote: > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=rsnapshot doesn't tell, so > I wonder what is the recommended way to find out why rsnapshot (or any > other package) has been dropped from Testing? > rsnapshot is still in Sid. I found #986709, of course, but this >

Re: File moved from one package to another - use Conflicts/Replaces or Breaks/Replaces?

2021-04-04 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-04-03 Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Hello! > In MariaDB we have over the years moved files around. A file that was first > in e.g. mariadb-server-10.3 might have been moved to > mariadb-server-core-10.3 and some years later to mariadb-client-core-10.5. > The result is a massive debian/control

Re: Questioning debian/upstream/signing-key.asc

2021-03-27 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-03-26 Christoph Biedl wrote: > a few days ago, I ran uscan on a package where I knew there was a new > upstream version - just to encounter an validation error since the > keys in debian/upstream/signing-key.asc had expired. [...] > Another about 40 distinct keys will expire within the nex

Bug#929165: How to use rm_conffile to remove files that contain empty " ", comma "," and wildcard "*"?

2021-03-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-03-07 Hideki Yamane wrote: > X-debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > I've tried to remove files that was accidentally containts empty " ", > comma "," and wildcard "*" via rm_conffile from dpkg-maintscript-helper. > However, it returns an error like below. > > dh_installdeb: err

Re: move to merged-usr-only?

2020-11-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2020-11-20 Ansgar wrote: > I would like to propose to plan to move to support merged-usr-only over > the following releases. The motivation is bugs like [1] where upstream > developers just use `/usr/bin/rm` (or other binaries, or user scripts > using /usr/bin/bash, or ...) unconditionally; th

Re: Proposal: use /usr/bin/open as an alternative for run-mailcap and others.

2020-10-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2020-10-09 calumlikesapple...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 2020-10-08 at 18:45 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: >> I do not get the reason for this change. Surely we do not expect >> people to manually type >> open penguin.jpeg [...] > I disagree. If you are developing

Re: Proposal: use /usr/bin/open as an alternative for run-mailcap and others.

2020-10-08 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2020-10-07 Charles Plessy wrote: > Hello everybody, hello Debian freedesktop.org maintainers, > /bin/open has been kindly freed a couple years ago (#732796) and I would > like to propose to repurpose it as a standard command for opening files, > like on Mac OS and NextStep before it. [...] He

Re: RFC: Final update of DEP-14 on naming of git packaging branches

2020-09-23 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2020-08-29 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > +URL: https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep14/ [...] | When a package targets any release that is not one of the usual | development releases (i.e. stable releases or a frozen development | release), it should be prepared in a branch named with the

Re: [Summary]: RFC: Standardizing source package artifacts build paths

2020-05-02 Thread Andreas Metzler
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Niels Thykier wrote: [...] > 3) We followed up with an [update to the proposal] were debhelper would > optionally expose some of the relevant directories (some by default, > others on request) with symlinks while still supporting the new > layout. I

Re: RFC: Standardizing source package artifacts build paths

2020-03-31 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2020-03-09 Sam Hartman wrote: > I'm concerned about a leading . at least for: > * the debian/tmp replacement > * the replacement for the package install directories under debian. > I think that maintaining those directories such that ls shows them will > be more friendly for new maintainers.

Re: Is comma operator defined by POSIX and supported by dash?

2020-03-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2020-03-22 Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Hello, > According to [Bashism Wiki](https://mywiki.wooledge.org/Bashism): >> The comma operator is widely supported by almost everything except dash >> and yash -- even posh and Busybox. In ksh93 however, it conflicts with >> the decimal radix in locales whe

Re: OpenLiteSpeed Build Script Violating Debian Upstream Guide

2020-03-08 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2020-03-08 Wookey wrote: [...] > So you need to package boringSSL before uploading this > package. [...] https://packages.qa.debian.org/android-platform-external-boringssl cu Andreas

Is there still a point in installing libgcrypt to /lib instead of /usr/lib

2020-02-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, afaict we are moving to a usrmerge setup, i.e. with /lib just a symlink to /usr/lib. So shouldn't packages start installing stuff to /usr/lib instead of /lib? I would like to do that for libgcrypt, since I would be able to shorten debian/rules by stopping to split stuff between /lib (.so) a

Re: How to give back a build

2019-09-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2019-09-12 Jeff wrote: > The package I uploaded yesterday failed to build[1]. In the buildd, 2 of > 1000+ tests failed. Of course, I built in a clean sbuild for sid before > I uploaded it, and the same package built fine on the newer Ubuntu > distros on launchpad. So I'm hoping it was just a gl

Re: Why keep upstream sources in Git at salsa.d.o?

2019-08-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
Alexis Murzeau wrote: > Le 13/08/2019 à 01:17, Daniel Leidert a écrit : >> Am Montag, den 12.08.2019, 19:53 +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: [...] >>> I haven't heard that a debian/ only repository layout is possible with >>> git-buildpackage before today. >> Works nicely. I keep a file debian/gbp.conf

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-10 Thread Andreas Metzler
Theodore Ts'o wrote: [...] > Thanks, that's really helpful. One of the really frustrating things > I've found about trying to use dh is that there is a real lack of > examples which are more complicated than: > #!/usr/bin/make -f > # > # See? dh is easy-peasy! > %: > dh $@ > Sure, th

Re: git vs dfsg tarballs

2018-11-19 Thread Andreas Metzler
Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > I'm often seeing packagers directly putting dfsg'ed trees into their git > repos, w/o any indication how the tree was actually created from the > original releases. [...] > My preferred way (except for rare cases where upstream history is > extremely huge

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 08:06:38PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: >> Could we document this a little bit better in the wiki? This is >> completely different than on alioth, where collab-maint was suggested >> for basically everything that did n

Re: salsa.debian.org: merge requests and such

2018-11-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
Guillem Jover wrote: > On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 15:00:03 +, Matthew Vernon wrote: [...] >> that at least a MR is something I should have expected as a package >> maintainer, not just commits to master? > Assuming that packages is under the Salsa Debian namespace, then I > think that's what you (

Re: changing git tags on the remote repo

2018-08-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Holger Wansing wrote: > I am curious about how to change an already existing git tag afterwards > (means: change the commit it points to). > Locally, I can change an existing tag, and then create it newly. > But I cannot push it to the remote repo (get > "! [rejected]139 -> 139 (a

Re: improved alioth-salsa test script (calls for testing/improvements)s

2018-05-02 Thread Andreas Metzler
Holger Levsen wrote: > hi, > maybe i'm stupid but i'm also failing now with my 3rd "quick" attempt of > migration to salsa using the script... > holger@moszumanska:~/alioth-migration$ ./migrate-repo -v -d > /srv/git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/anarchism.git /debian/anarchism [...] > (oh and th

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro hijack my package

2018-04-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
Tobias Frost wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote: >> https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git > You know that collab-maint stands for "Collaborative Maintaince"? > IMHO by placing it into collab-maint, everyone is allowed / suggested > to wo

Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released

2018-04-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
Ole Streicher wrote: > Sean Whitton writes: >> On Sat, Apr 07 2018, Ole Streicher wrote: [...] >>> Sure, but why do we give up a common rule? I think the cases where >>> d/watch does not work are not so rare (at least I have quite a number >>> of them), and keeping them unified is not the worst t

Re: "apt-get source snappy" pulls Extra-Source-Only 1.1.4-1 in Debian-Stretch?

2018-02-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Philipp Hahn wrote: > Hello APT developers, > today I encountered the strange situation, that Debian-Stretch > officially has 1.1.3-3, but if I do a "apt-get source snappy" I get 1.1.4-1: [...] > So how can I tell "apt-get source" to pull the "right" version,

Re: Repackaging upstream source with file modifications?

2018-02-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 12 February 2018 at 10:28, Colin Watson wrote: [...] >> My recent attempt to upload grub2 2.02-3 was rejected due to >> https://bugs.debian.org/745409, which I admit I've been putting off >> dealing with for a while; but the relevant tag >> (license-problem-non-fre

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2017-12-30 Thread Andreas Metzler
Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:43:58PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Dec 2017, Philipp Kern wrote: >> > Put a mapping into a git repository that DDs can push to? Make sure that >> > it is fast-forwarded always? Then let people deal with it? >> I am currently workin

Re: ftp master uploads disappearing?

2017-09-27 Thread Andreas Metzler
Andreas Tille wrote: [...] > To answer Mattias question why not using source uploads all the time: > Once I have build the package to see whether all those lintian issues > are fixed I want to fix I have a sensible package to upload and somehow > this workflow to upload what is just there remains.

Re: Alioth: the future of mailing lists

2017-09-17 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2017-09-17 Alexander Wirt wrote: [...] > - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest > that, with maybe some extra code, this use-case could be well served > by the tracker.debian.org service for almost all purposes. For > larger teams, such as the Debian P

Re: Please add lzip support in the repository

2017-06-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 08:36:48PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: [...] >> So, it would make more sense to have a par2 (or create a modern version >> of it, actually) ECC layer on top of the compression layer, at which >> point we can use one of the already supporte

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
Niels Thykier wrote: > Andreas Metzler: [...] >> No, the encoding was not correct. Compare how you (your MUA) just did it in >> this message with the rejected one. >> From: =?UTF-8?Q?TOMAS_MARTI=c5=a0IUS?= >> From: =?utf-8?b?VG9tYXMgTWFydGnFoWl1cyA8dG9tYXNAcHV

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2016-12-28 TOMAS MARTIŠIUS wrote: > 2016.12.28 09:09, Andreas Metzler rašė: >> On 2016-12-27 TOMAS MARTIŠIUS wrote: >>> Why I can't report bug using reportbug command? After reporting I get back >>> e-mail with this message: [...] >> The From header does

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