Re: Hosting offers for Debian development

2015-02-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Thank you for the reply. I've added a link to your mail on: https://wiki.debian.org/ServicesHosting I've merged the mail into the page, done some re-organisation and added some extra things. -- bye, pabs

Re: Hosting offers for Debian development

2015-02-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 19:33 +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: If someone is working on some new project/service for Debian and wants to be hosted on a DSA-managed machine, what are the criteria that should be met to be accepted? There isn't really a written set of criteria that need to be met,

Re: Should we mark #388141 as jessie-ignore?

2015-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Riley Baird wrote: Kind of, but it's only for that one article. Is there something similar that lists all edits to the wiki itself like that? If not, I could make one by downloading the revision histories for all pages on the wiki and then parsing them, but

Re: Optional shared libraries system

2015-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Josh Triplett wrote: You can do something very similar with weak symbols. You don't even need to use dlopen to test for their existence; you can just test the symbol directly to check for NULL, or you can supply your own version that'll be used if you don't

Debian for drones?

2015-02-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Alastair McKinstry wrote: Debian for Drones(TM) Are there any that could run Debian? It might be interesting to use them to ferry microphones at DebConf :) -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Or, alternately, you could research how and why one would use shared libraries in a binary distribution to support optional features. But that's boring, prosaic, and nowhere near as much fun to write about. We were discussing optional

Re: Bug#777220: ITP: you-get -- downloader for youtube and number of sites

2015-02-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: I smell the chance to share… It would be nice if someone could contact all of the Python ones and ask them to merge their code. Same for all of the Perl ones and all of the other ones. Even more interesting would be a standard for video

Re: Bug#776628: ITP: needrestart-session -- check for processes need to be restarted in user sessions

2015-01-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: Just FYI. Guido Gunther has done something similar with whatmaps https://honk.sigxcpu.org/piki/projects/whatmaps I count at least 6 implementations of the concept now: checkrestart (from debian-goodies) needrestart whatmaps

Re: Any way to apply patch on some archs only?

2015-01-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:16 PM, olivier sallou wrote: In my current case, I can apply on all archs if needed, but I wondered if there was an easy way, seems not... :-( Please post some details of the bug, the patch you want to apply and which package you are talking about so that we can give

Re: Bug#776003: ITP: swarp -- Resample and co-add together FITS images

2015-01-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Ole Streicher rote: * Package name: swarp This is already in Debian, but is now RFA: https://bugs.debian.org/776036 I've merged the two bugs and made them an ITA. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]

2015-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: how about the other way round then: - by default everything stays as it is and there is no auto subscription - by sending an email to the bts I can activate that I'm automatically subscribed to all bugs I submitted or contributed

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]

2015-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Tomas Pospisek wrote: But isn't subscribing participants natural? Posting to a bug report means participation and thus you'd get the follow-ups. Why would you post to a bug report if you aren't interested in what happens with it, how things proceed/evolve? It

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]

2015-01-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: I'm going to put together a bit more firm of a proposal in the next few weeks, but I think that basically everything but nnn-done@ and nnn-submitter@ should be no different from mailing nnn@, and until I allow submitters to opt out of

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Riley Baird wrote: That sounds like a lot of code duplication. Is it possible to have a common library between XBill and XLennart? ITP submitters aren't necessarily subscribed to debian-devel, please CC the submitter and their bug. -- bye, pabs

Re: length of a package extended description

2015-01-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Some texlive-* packages (and perhaps others) have a huge extended description, e.g. more than 1900 lines for texlive-latex-extra! Sounds like a symptom of bundling lots of CTAN packages into one Debian package. Personally I think it would

Re: GUI Configuration tool for main Debian window managers

2015-01-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:17 AM, john Lutz wrote: I was wondering how one would one go about building a GUI tool to cover every imaginable setting via a GUI interface for the majority of standard live and other installed Debian distribtion?.. And what tools / standards are required by such?

Re:

2015-01-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Ludovico Cavedon wrote: Should I just request the removal of ntop instead? That seems to be the best option. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: general bugs

2014-12-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: I don't particularly mind if we change it to have an unknown package pseudopackage instead of debian-user, but some list/someone would have to be the maintainer, and deal with triaging those bugs. I think it would be best to disable the

Re: Plan to orphan cdn.debian.net

2014-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Yasuhiro Araki wrote: Could you show the opinion to support ancient apt, which is used in debian older than lenny, by cdn.debian.net? Since lenny is no longer available on the Debian mirror network nor on cdn.debian.net, but only on archive.debian.org, that

Re: multiarch coinstallability of libc6 / conflicting loader paths

2014-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote: So I enabled architectures in dpkg, updated the package lists and tried installing libc6 packages for each architecture, but dpkg refused to unpack libc6:mipsel after libc6:powerpc had been installed, because both architectures use the

Re: gnome depending on apache [WAS: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution]

2014-12-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Is this an purely optional program, or does gnome itself depend on it ? Please review the dependencies of the gnome metapackage. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Noel Torres wrote: Contributing code is not the only way to contribute to Debian. At least to the Debian I love. Please come out of the developer shell. Translators, e.g. are a very important part of the project, even if they have not been give the same voting

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: On 27.11.2014 02:18, Josh Triplett wrote: gnome Depends: gnome-core, which Depends: gnome-user-share, which Depends: apache2-bin (or apache2.2-bin in stable, which is a transitional package depending on apache2-bin in unstable). gnome

Re: Embedded systems and systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: working upstream Are there any vendors of ARM-based devices who are doing that? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Javascript trigger design

2014-11-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote: The debian side is in no way able / fit to take care of *live* updating js/css bundles. This is up to the web framework you're using - like you mentioned for example RoR. What is needed for debian-packaged webapps is to be able to regenerate

Re: Thank you for the remarkable work on Jessie

2014-11-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 9:04 PM, lumin wrote: However there's a issue: Once started the Xorg, it Segfaults right away. Seems that this is caused by xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion[3]. Please file a bug (severity serious): http://x.debian.net/howto/report-bugs.html (Please let me know what

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Noel Torres wrote: Exactly. Who they are? The people who chose Debian, are they laptop users? desktop users? sysadmins? The question is important. All of the people you mention choose Debian. It is impossible to know who they are though, except for people who

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Noel Torres wrote: Who our users are? Debian's users are the set of people and organisations who use Debian. That is changing every day as people discover Debian, discover other systems they like better, discover something about Debian they don't like, try a

Re: policy regarding redistributable binary files in upstream tarballs

2014-11-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote: These days, they might just push their repo to github and let its machinery generate the tarballs, which TTBOMK aren't guaranteed to be 1:1 identical to another tarball of the same commit that's downloaded a week later. Or a year. I

Re: systemd, fstab, noauto and nofail

2014-11-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Noel Torres wrote: I do not understand, then, how this is different from what sysvinit's mountall.sh does (or at least what I understand it does). The difference is that it appears to ignore the exit code of mount calls, meaning it acts as if everything in

Re: policy regarding redistributable binary files in upstream tarballs

2014-11-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: Generic question. In my experience some upstream include some redistributable binary files. For example some binary stuff to create a .app on osX, minified javascript, and whatever. Could you include some information about the upstream

Re: policy regarding redistributable binary files in upstream tarballs

2014-11-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Ben Finney wrote: In my experience, many upstreams have an aversion to an explicit build step, because they see VCS as not only a VCS, but also as an end-user distribution platform. I would suggest that VCSen are for developers, packagers and advanced users,

Re: policy regarding redistributable binary files in upstream tarballs

2014-11-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Ben Finney wrote: But a growing number of upstreams disagree, so those upstreams are likely to be actively opposed to your recommendation to patches which remove non-source files from the VCS repository. I wonder about the basis for that disagreement. I think

Re: Bad weather in testing?

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote: As a workaround, this is the reason why arch:all nodejs modules have a build-dependency on nodejs - it prevents them to be available on arches where nodejs isn't. I think you meant dependency, a build-dependency would not achieve that. --

Re: Bad weather in testing?

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jérémy Lal wrote: Le jeudi 13 novembre 2014 à 19:23 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote: As a workaround, this is the reason why arch:all nodejs modules have a build-dependency on nodejs - it prevents them

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Patrick Ouellette wrote: I'm saying those things that logged to syslog now log to the journal, so cat /var/log/syslog doesn't work because the output that used to go there is redirected to the binary format journal file. journald forwards to rsyslog etc, which

Re: Bad weather in testing?

2014-11-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: This is a bug, I’ve seen this affect buildd dependency resolution, and anyway, if it’s not installable everywhere, why is it arch:all? I would guess that uninstallable arch:all things happens when they depend on non-portable things. For

Re: Beersigning in Zürich/SH/Winti? Meeting other local Debianistas? Bugfixing?

2014-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Tomas Pospisek wrote: would any of you come and sign my key when in Zürich/SH/Winti? In case folks from these places aren't reading this list, some possibilities: https://db.debian.org/search.cgi?country=chdosearch=Search

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote: I'd like to note that there are very good reasons for a debian-only, overlay-style packaging repository too. This section should, in my opinion, at least acknowledge that, and briefly mention it as an option. I find it a bit sad that it was

Re: Bug#768772: ITP: xkcdpass -- secure passphrase generator inspired by XKCD 936

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Wise
Why are we still using passphrases at all? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Bug#768772: ITP: xkcdpass -- secure passphrase generator inspired by XKCD 936

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Ben Finney wrote: This is only temporary, as we transition to uncrackable brain–computer interfaces for every device. I'm not looking forward to the denial-of-service attacks that could introduce :) Until that future arrives for every device, I'd like people

Re: New dash in experimental showing up a widespread bashism in configure scripts

2014-11-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: ./configure: 2340: test: xyes: unexpected operator Checking for this sounds like a job for Debian's build log checks, could you contact the maintainer with the appropriate information (tag name, regex, description)?

Re: Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-11-03 Thread Paul Wise
[Dropping the bug, this is beginning to get OT] On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: * We could run a lightweight polling service on Debian infrastructure which the computer could use to find out how out of date it is. This makes me think of the AMQP stuff DSA has setup as

Accepted warzone2100 3.1.1-1 (source amd64 all) into unstable

2014-10-25 Thread Paul Wise
Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Paul Wise p...@debian.org Description: warzone2100 - 3D real time strategy game warzone2100-data - data files for warzone2100 warzone2100-dbg - debug files for warzone2100 warzone2100-music - official music for warzone2100 Closes: 714687

Accepted foxtrotgps 1.2.0-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-10-24 Thread Paul Wise
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:30:31 +0800 Source: foxtrotgps Binary: foxtrotgps foxtrotgps-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.2.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Paul Wise p...@debian.org Changed-By: Paul Wise p

Re: Accepted tasksel 3.29 (source all) into unstable

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 14:50 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: * real-world ARM hardware comes with hardware 3D and non-free drivers ...and free drivers for Qualcomm Adreno

Re: GPL-3 openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: But Fedora, whose policies Richard Fontana helped to shape over the years, considers OpenSSL to be a library covered by the system library exception. We discussed this on #faif[1] and: Richard Fontana says the OpenSSL-system library

Accepted autorevision 1.10a-1 (source all) into unstable

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:32:07 +0800 Source: autorevision Binary: autorevision Architecture: source all Version: 1.10a-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Paul Wise p...@debian.org Changed-By: Paul Wise p...@debian.org

Re: Accepted tasksel 3.29 (source all) into unstable

2014-10-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: * real-world ARM hardware comes with hardware 3D and non-free drivers ...and free drivers for Qualcomm Adreno GPUs: http://bloggingthemonkey.blogspot.com/2013/06/freedreno-gnome-shell-on-nexus4a320.html freedreno appears

Re: piece of mind

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Christoph Biedl wrote: Debian installations I have at least three serious issues that prevent systemd based systems from booting or being usable¹. Are you willing to file bug reports about these issues? https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting -- bye, pabs

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Wise
Please do not use HTML mail on Debian lists. Please do not flame on Debian lists. https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: tried it without success, lots of bugs popped everywhere when

Re: debconf as a registry

2014-10-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: maintenance of them, like for example moving a directive from one section to another (when this happens upstream). Sounds like you want one of these: Config::Model based config file upgrades: https://wiki.debian.org/PackageConfigUpgrade

Re: Determining, ad hoc, whether someone is a DD

2014-10-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: [1] I'm told that looking at db.d.o ldapsearch can help if you then see whether the user has `gidNumber=800' or perhaps whether the user has `objectClass=debianDeveloper' but there are rumours that the latter is misleading. gidNumber is

Re: Determining, ad hoc, whether someone is a DD

2014-10-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: db.debian.org contains DMs and DDs db.d.o does not contain DMs AFAIK, but it does have guest accounts and indeed doesn't distinguish those. DSA have been working on a replacement for our current interface and could use help with improving it.

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: https://www.debian.org/intro/organization Ah wonderful, a set of 0 people. No surprise then. Unfortunately that page is maintained manually. According to LDAP it appears to be wouter, he,

Accepted funguloids 1.06-12 (source amd64 all) into unstable

2014-10-15 Thread Paul Wise
...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Paul Wise p...@debian.org Description: funguloids - space-flying-mushroom-picking-simulator game funguloids-data - space-flying-mushroom-picking-simulator game (data files) Closes: 726223 732722 Changes: funguloids (1.06-12) unstable; urgency=low . [ Fabian Greffrath

Re: Tests running as (real) root?

2014-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Svante Signell wrote: I have a question about how to run tests for a package needing root to run properly, fakeroot is not sufficient. I've made one of the packages to build properly with: sudo run_test and fixed the sudoers file. But how to fix that so the

Re: Packaging proprietary software

2014-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: install it locally is most easily done by generate a package, install said package. Can we stop judging people by what they're trying to do, please? I didn't intend any judgement, could you suggest an alternate wording that wouldn't imply

Re: Contact copyright holder / ask for free software license

2014-10-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Benjamin Drung wrote: Do we have a wiki page or similar containing this information? It would be nice to have a page for guiding people (that are unaware, but not against free software) to make good license choices.

Re: Packaging proprietary software

2014-10-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Mathieu Slabbinck wrote: I was wondering if anyone could point me to the best practice way of doing this. Best practice would be to contact the copyright holder and ask them to convert the software to FLOSS. If they refuse to do so, then try to find, write or

Re: Bug#757941: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Michael Tokarev wrote: apps becomes huge in size I wonder if LTO would help with the size issues, theoretically all the code from the static glibc that isn't used by busybox-static would be stripped out of the resulting binaries. -- bye, pabs

Re: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Michael Tokarev wrote: But with jessie, for one, all network name resolution (gethostby* etc APIs) don't work anymore, because glibc does not provide them instatic libraries. So usual network utilities in busybox does not anymore, they just return `host not

Bug#763419: snapshot.debian.org: add an overlay for updates to Valid-Until, OpenPGP signatures

2014-09-29 Thread Paul Wise
Package: snapshot.debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 4:34 AM, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Well I think snapshot is it's own

Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
Package: snapshot.debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 4:34 AM, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Well I think snapshot is it's own

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: As wrote by others earlier, that's the amount of memory needed for compression. 65 MB of RAM is needed for decompression. That's nothing!!! That is half the RAM available on my Debian-based phone. Having to shut down the UI just to

Re: Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-09-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Well I think snapshot is it's own construction site, isn't it? snapshot is a read-only (modulo cosmic rays and removal of non-redistributable things) historical record, files in it will not be modified to re-sign with newer keys

Re: Bug#761348: ftp.debian.org: need machine-readable metadata about suites repositories

2014-09-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 08:31 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Tagged the bug moreinfo, over the next months I will look at existing hardcoding, consult with service maintainers and try to come up with a spec on the RepositoryFormat page about what data is needed. ftp-masters seem to be open to the idea

Re: Installing debian-security-support by default

2014-09-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: Does anyone have a better suggestion? What about just bumping the Priority? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: New package tracker - old one going?

2014-09-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: I notice that packages.qa.debian.org is advertising the new package tracker. Does this mean the old package tracker there is going to disappear? It will go away eventually once the new tracker has equivalent functionality. I was going

Re: teams in Re: New package tracker - old one going?

2014-09-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: how is that fed with data? https://tracker.debian.org/teams/+create/ I notice most teams from wiki.d.o/Teams/ are missing :/ Up to each team if they want to use the tracker, few have chosen to do so. -- bye, pabs

Re: Bug#761348: ftp.debian.org: need machine-readable metadata about suites repositories

2014-09-14 Thread Paul Wise
[Drop the bug since it seems OT there] On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: we have the python-distro-info package which at least holds some of that info. how/where would you see that in your picture? That has the same problem; it hardcodes information about the archive in a

Bug#761348: ftp.debian.org: need machine-readable metadata about suites repositories

2014-09-13 Thread Paul Wise
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Various places in Debian infrastructure (QA especially) hard-code aspects of the Debian archive (suite, code, component, arch names etc). This is a problem because after new suites or architectures are added,

Re: Lower severity/importance of bug #704019

2014-09-13 Thread Paul Wise
I would ping the reporter and tag the bug moreinfo, then wait a week and if there is no response, close the bug. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Accepted geeqie 1:1.2-1 (source amd64 all) into unstable

2014-09-13 Thread Paul Wise
-By: Paul Wise p...@debian.org Description: geeqie - image viewer using GTK+ geeqie-common - data files for Geeqie geeqie-dbg - debug symbols for Geeqie Closes: 761384 Changes: geeqie (1:1.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium . * Use a proper version number (Closes: #761384) Checksums-Sha1

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: I guess I would want to see it installed on all non-chroot installs, hence maybe hw-detect makes more sense. If there's a SCSI/ATA disk drive, install smartmontools. Sounds good to me. You also need smart-notifier on desktops where the

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: I think the better way how to convert openvpn to systemd would be: to convert all AUTOSTART= VPNs to openvpn@ enabled instances and all other to disabled openvpn@ instances at upgrade time. I guess there might be a need to some more subtle

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Markus Koschany wrote: Creating a games-all metapackage would be easily doable As someone who has been trying to maintain a system (rather than metapackage) that is basically that (plus a bunch of games removed from Debian), I don't think it is actually that

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: It should likely be raised to priority=standard, which would make it part of the standard system utilities task. smartctl is relatively important for problem diagnosis with disk drives. I don't think it is necessary everywhere: Various

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Rebecca Palmer wrote: Someone already proposed, in the wiki, to add Games. I like the idea a lot, and it perfectly makes sense to select all games at once. That was me. We don't yet have a games-all metapackage in the games blend, games-finest is probably a

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: sum-up It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at the package source

Accepted input-utils 1.0-1.1 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 17:21:11 +0800 Source: input-utils Binary: input-utils Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Marcus Better mar...@better.se Changed-By: Paul Wise p

Re: Bug#758234: Raising priority of Debian packages

2014-09-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: We should probably also monitor package conflicts. We made a big fuss about node vs nodejs (and rightly so); but I bet that we have lots of other package pairs in the archive that can't be co-installed for no good reason. We have this already:

Re: Detecting more undeclared conflicts (was: Re: Bug#758234: Raising priority of Debian packages)

2014-09-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: would it make sense to extend this test and not only check whether packages that share a file listed in Contents.gz can be co-installed but also packages which access/change/create the same files in their pre/post-install maintainer

Re: Bug#760167: ITP: cligh -- Command-line interface to GitHub

2014-09-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: PS. Is it any tool to generate ITP bug from debian/ directory? No, because ITPs are meant to be filed *before* the debian/ directory exists. Source package is already available at github: kaction/deb-cligh. This should have been done

Re: Bug#760167: ITP: cligh -- Command-line interface to GitHub

2014-09-06 Thread Paul Wise
It was pointed out off-list that my mail could be considered harsh. If so I apologise for this, I certainly didn't intend that. On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 13:56 +0400, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: My reason was that I am noob, and it takes undefined amount of time for me to find out how to package new

Re: Two-minute(!)-survey on motivation and free time contribution of open source developers

2014-08-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Stefan Kullack wrote: It would be fantastic if you could spend two minutes on three simple questions! Here is the link to the survey: https://de.surveymonkey.com/s/MFKXYLP You might get more feedback if you weren't using a proprietary SaaSS (service as a

Re: Raising priority of Debian packages

2014-08-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: The problem that set off this entire discussion is the question of whether we want to raise the priority of perl, perl-modules, and init-system-helpers to important to match rsyslog, move the Perl modules used by init-system-helpers to

Re: bits from the DPL -- mid-April to mid-August 2014

2014-08-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: Does this list of expenses mean that you now have a good overview of Debian's cash flow? In April, I understood that this was a major outstanding problem. I'm happy to see that we are spending Debian money on useful sprints and events;

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hum... Well, to me, what's important is that the code gets peer-reviewed. ... by both humans and by automatically by computers; compiler warnings, static analysis tools, fuzz testers etc. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Time to drop debcheck on optional/extra and arch:all?

2014-08-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Neil Williams wrote: Do we care about any distinction between optional and extra any longer? I would say no we don't and suggest these steps: Remove it from policy: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities Get dak to override all

Re: RFH: testing util-linux/experimental

2014-08-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Andreas Henriksson wrote: One of the notes there includes mentioning that losetup has completely dropped support for encryption. This also means that the Debian-specific patch to extend this functionality has been dropped[HASHPATCH]. This mean that the mount

Re: Bug#756521: ITP: kadeploy -- Scalable, efficient and reliable cluster provisioning solution

2014-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: A straightforward way is exemplified by the case of SSH, where the server keys are regenerated if they are absent. It then only takes to delete the keys when preparing images to avoid the problem of duplicated IDs or privacy leaks. It

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:38 PM, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org [2014-08-01 09:37 +0200]: * The source package includes a Package-List field that also has an arch=* column. dpkg (= 1.17.7) will include this. Can we read up more on this somewhere? It

Re: Bug#756521: ITP: kadeploy -- Scalable, efficient and reliable cluster provisioning solution

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: FAI and Kickstart rely on an installation process (even if not debian-installer's): packages are extracted, installed and configured. Kadeploy and CloneZilla rely on cloning: you install and configure one system first, then create an

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: As a more radical suggestion, perhaps it should divert the usual output email to debian-user ? Probably we should ask the inhabitants of debian-user what they think of this idea... Better to delete the general/base/cdrom/project

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: general and project are maybe useful though.. general only receives misguided user support requests, not useful. project doesn't receive new reports; not useful. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Bug#756172: ITP: ssh-cron -- cron-like job scheduler than handles ssh key passphrases

2014-07-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: It is possible to restrict keys in .ssh/authorized_keys so that they are only allowed to run specific commands, see the 'command=command' bit in man:sshd(8). One probably wants to combine this with no-port-forwarding and similar

Re: Bug#755382: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn -- “Source Han Sans CN” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (CN subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 6:09 AM, James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: PW == Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: * Package name: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn PW Due to the need for Adobe's ADFKO, this will have to go to contrib. PW IIRC ADFKO will become open source at some point

Re: Bug#755382: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn -- “Source Han Sans CN” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (CN subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Paul Wise wrote: I would be happy to be proven wrong on this; feel free to package it for main if fontforge can take the place of all the commands mentioned in the upstream build system. The way to prove that would be to only ship the non-OTF files

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Yes it does. No... I just tried chromium and iceweasel on this laptop (running sid, a few days out of date). Both will turn http://www.debian.org; into https://www.debian.org; due to HSTS. This works whether I enter the http://;

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