Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-30 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ari" == Ari Pollak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ari> I had been taking the full brunt of the responsibility for Ari> the xscreensaver NMU, but since I was a pre-NM at the time Ari> and sponsors of uploads are supposed to follow Debian policy Ari> as well, he ended up taking m

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-30 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ari" == Ari Pollak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> IIRC Ari has caused upset with NMUs before; xscreensaver, I >> believe. (I express no opinion about whether that upload was a >> good idea or not.) Ari> Didn't you sponsor the upload? Um, so? While yes the sponsor is at

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable Russell> stream based communication over UDP? librx from openafs provides this functionality; it may be somewhat more complexity than you are looking for.

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Christian" == Christian Surchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> Ari wrote to me in the end of october to ask me about Christian> my intention about logjam packaging. I had an enormous Christian> backlog and I could not be able to reply. Then he filed Christian> a wish

Bug#142065: ITP: cyrus2-sasl-mit - MIT Kerberos modules for sasl2

2002-04-09 Thread Sam Hartman
package: wnpp severity: wishlist I'm planning on packaging libsasl2-gssapi-mit, a version of the GSSAPI plugin for libsasl2 compiled against MIT Kerberos. This package has the same source as cyrus-sasl2, but different build environment and options. It's not really possible to avoid having two so

Bug#128888: ITP: ssh-krb5 - A version of OpenSSH patched to support Kerberos Authentication

2002-01-12 Thread Sam Hartman
package: wnpp severity: wishlist Hi. AS discussed below, I intend to package OpenSSH using the current Debian sources with patches to allow krb5 authentication. I will use the patches available at http://www.sxw.org.uk/computing/patches/openssh.html. These patches attempt to comply with draft-i

Re: build daemon architectures

2001-09-10 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Randolph" == Randolph Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The Automatic Package Building System page[1] lists the build >> daemons with web pages. It does not list those without, >> however. Since my latest libcdaudio packages are considered >> out of date on i386, I was

Re: moving a package from non-US/main to main?

2001-09-03 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Marc" == Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marc> On 02 Sep 2001 23:18:56 -0400, Sam Hartman Marc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc> wrote: >>>>>>> "Marc" == Marc Haber >>>>>>

Re: Which versions of libraries are developers supposed to compile against?

2001-09-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jules" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jules> This seems a step back from the old freeze procedure, where Jules> you could upload to frozen (and, I assume, auto-builders Jules> were building against frozen) Well, once your library and all dependencies are frozen you

Re: moving a package from non-US/main to main?

2001-09-02 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Marc" == Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marc> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:49:00 +0200 (CEST), Santiago Vila Marc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However, you can repackage the .orig.tar.gz source and remove >> the non-US bits from it. Then you could upload both source and

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Henrique" == Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Henrique> AFAIK, I cannot do that. If I build against testing, I Henrique> help the breakage by adding yet another package that Henrique> depends on the outdated libraries that are in testing, Henrique> th

Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-08 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> "Sam" == Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> &q

Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-08 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This brings up an interesting point. While we should work with >> upstream maintainers to fix these problems, we should a

Re: RFC: Potential solution for module building

2001-05-07 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> for needs to be determined by the architecture maintainers. >> For Sparc, modversions are not used so you can probably buil

RFC: Potential solution for module building

2001-05-07 Thread Sam Hartman
So, a week or so ago, I asked for comments on some problems I've been having with the Debian kernel modules build system for modules not in the Linux source tree. I'm only dealing with modules for upload to Debian. The make-kpkg solution seems to work for individuals building modules for their

Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-07 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> I won't look at all of them as this is really the Herbert> upstream maintainer's job. This brings up an interesting point. While we should work with upstream maintainers to fix these problems, we should also try to avoid

Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We do? please explain what it is. Herbert produces kernel >> headers packages for all flavors of kernels he produce

Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> "Aaron" == Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Aaron> So you're saying it's better to hardcode syscall numbers Aaron> and stuff than using the kernel headers? Sre... Manoj> We already have a process f

Re: dm management of wm listings (kdm/gdm/etc..)

2001-05-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ivan" == Ivan E Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ivan> Solution?: create a program (update-dm?) that would pull Ivan> the current list of window/session-managers installed on the Ivan> system and build the appropriate config files for whichever You should probably consider w

Re: postgresql and libssl - Bug#95146

2001-05-01 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Petr" == Petr Cech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Since this question is currently being referred to legal >> advice, do you want me to move postgresql into non-us, which >> will force any packages depending on it into non-us too, or >> should I leave it alone pending resol

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> If these tools become widly enough accepted that we think Joey> everyone should have them available by default, we can make Joey> them standard priority. In the new universe (debbootstrap, tasksel, etc) where a user might nev

Re: openldap question and possible feature conflict

2001-04-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> I have got a bug report #95246 requesting Heimdal be Brian> compiled against openldap2. This would enable being able to Brian> store the Kerberos database in the openldap database. All Brian> data is stored in LDAP encry

Re: RFC: Thoughts on building modules

2001-04-26 Thread Sam Hartman
>>>>> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is misleading. The kernel-image-*-arch packages are much >> simpler because they do not depend both on a kernel sour

Formal request for review: [Sam Hartman ] Referring what kernel-images to build to the technical committee?

2001-04-26 Thread Sam Hartman
L PROTECTED] (kernel-image-i386 maintainer), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (concerned about package size) Subject: Referring what kernel-images to build to the technical committee? Reply-to: debian-devel@lists.debian.org From: Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Formal request for review: [Sam Hartman ] Referring what kernel-images to build to the technical committee?

2001-04-26 Thread Sam Hartman
L PROTECTED] (kernel-image-i386 maintainer), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (concerned about package size) Subject: Referring what kernel-images to build to the technical committee? Reply-to: debian-devel@lists.debian.org From: Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: RFC: Thoughts on building modules

2001-04-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> BTW, this is how the kernel images are organised on Herbert> alpha/i386/sparc. This is misleading. The kernel-image-*-arch packages are much simpler because they do not depend both on a kernel source package and on a mod

RFC: Thoughts on building modules

2001-04-25 Thread Sam Hartman
One thing that strikes me as excellent about Debian is the build system. The autobuilders and tools make it very likely that package builds are reproducible and a variety of tools like debhelper make it easier to do the "right thing" in many circumstances than doing something wrong. I've come a

Referring what kernel-images to build to the technical committee?

2001-04-25 Thread Sam Hartman
[cc list is an attempt at stakeholders for this issue. If I missed people, I'm sorry. If I annoyed people by ccing them even though they read the list, well I'm sorry too, but there are a fair number of people who tend to want to be explicitly cc'd when an issue pertains to them.] Summary: He

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat breaks module builders

2001-04-25 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> I doubt the increase is going to be that significant. Herbert> Since most of these will eventually become part of the Herbert> mainstream kernel or get dropped. I hope that is not actually the trend we see. >> im

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat breaks module builders

2001-04-24 Thread Sam Hartman
[I'm responding to Herbert directly to draw attention to this question and make sure I get a response from him. I have also read the rest of this thread even though I am responding to a fairly early message. ] I'm approaching this as the maintainer of the openafs package, which has a kernel mod

Re: Boxed Penguin Prototype showcases customization of Debian to build infrastructure server

2001-01-02 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bernd" == Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bernd> Hello Sam, On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 11:27:44PM -0500, Sam Bernd> Hartman wrote: >> In order to actually get something done in an electronic >> office, we need a certain amount of infrastructure. Bernd> Thanks f

Boxed Penguin Prototype showcases customization of Debian to build infrastructure server

2000-12-30 Thread Sam Hartman
In order to actually get something done in an electronic office, we need a certain amount of infrastructure. In a large environment, the incremental costs are somewhat visible, but you won't see how much work it took to get there. In practice, starting from ground zero means identi

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