Konstantin Khomoutov dixit:
Sometimes we have to run software which is neither Open Source nor Free
on our systems which are (luckily) Open Source and Free.
Things like f-prot are shipped statically linked, when in their
binary form for OpenBSD. And binary compatibility only goes so
far either
Ondřej, could you please stop your aggressive behaviour against other
people on this list? Sadly, you are not very helpful with these remarks.
Repeatedly.
Thanks,
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2014, Sune Vuorela wrote:
Eigen.
Yes, that was it. Thanks.
OK, we have some examples, I hope this helps the OP ;-)
bye,
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ting, d.A.] mechanically produce pretty output that accentuates
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Gerrit Pape wrote:
See #766048, I rate the results as ciritical issues ;), and so won't
I’ve glanced at the list referenced.
Some things that immediately come to mind:
autoconf2.64 2.64-3 Failed [CONFIGURE_ERROR] configure: error: no acceptable m4
could be found in
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Gerrit Pape wrote:
time for this is quite limited.
You and me both, unfortunately.
bye,
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Osamu Aoki wrote:
I see. By the way, I have never seen package using Build-Using in
debian/control which is documented in policy. Is there any automatic
way to set the used-source:Version of package used? Something like ...
Built-Using: marisa (==
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Christoph Biedl:
- upstream shows little respect for people who object systemd
Why should they?
Because not doing that is asocial.
If you don't want to use my software on general principles, go away and
write your own. Do not bother me.
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
If package is suitable for unstable but not for testing, please upload
to unstable and file severe bugreport to keep it from entering testing.
I thought so too, but learned that this is a bad idea.
Sometimes, you have to update the package in
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014, Osamu Aoki wrote:
This is about packaging around a header only C++ library package.
IIRC, we already have one in the archive. I vaguely recall it
from m68k porter work, but can’t remember the name. Something
mathematical, I think?
bye,
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Andreas Barth wrote:
Buildd administration — architecture@buildd.debian.org
lists a couple of people. And also a working mail address. Contacting
people via a role account is always prefered.
Yeah, that’s whom I contacted first, on Friday. It was just not
getting any
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
Actually, the problem is indeed in policy. In its resolution of
#539158 the TC decided unanimously (but unfortunately slightly
implicitly) that printf ought to be provided by our /bin/sh.
Somewhat.
As the maintainer of a minority shell, Thorsten has
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
I see it a bit differently:
RC4 is broken. Full stop.
Therefore new versions clients and servers should per default not
use/enable/accept it.
Sorry, but I *have* to nitpick here.
RC4 as used by SSL is mostly broken. (A server could reset
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
But it’s now resolved, thanks Philipp!
Wrong again, I dist-upgraded the chroots and gave back the package.
But as before, facts are difficult.
Likewise, you could have pointed this out without being quite so condecending.
Uhm yes. Philipp
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
| If one of the members of the tech ctte considers that we should
| either overwrite the udev-maintainer or move printf to /bin, we
The coreutils maintainer may still decide to do just that.
That’s what would help the most.
bye,
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Stephane Chazelas wrote:
$*, $@, $* were not special in any way. They just underwent
the same rules as other variables. Only $@ was.
This changed in POSIX sh though. I remember having
to change some things in mksh to adhere to 2008 and
post-2008.
bye,
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Wookey wrote:
I _think_ we don't do this because the upgrading uses a lot of time on
buildds, especially slow ones. I did do this (build in snapshot,
Right.
the same packages over and over until the snapshot was updated (which
was manual and done approx weekly). This
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Joey Hess wrote:
Only thing I don't understand is why so few votes for systemd-shim out
of the group who has it installed.
Maybe noatime? That’s probably popular on desktops. “vote” does
not really say much, anyway.
bye,
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Stephane Chazelas wrote:
$ mksh -c 'IFS=; x=abc; printf %s\n ${x#$*}' x a b | sed -n l
\a\300a$
abc$
Interesting… but all shells diverge on this one.
tglase@tglase:~ $ bash -c 'IFS=; x=abc; printf %s\n ${x#$*}' x a b | sed -n
l
abc$
tglase@tglase:~ $ dash -c 'IFS=;
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org (2014-10-15):
Who are powerpc buildd admins, again?
Still listed at the same location since last time you asked:
Yeah, I tend to forget it.
https://www.debian.org/intro/organization
Ah wonderful, a set of 0
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Hi all,
it still happens, occasionally, that buildd chroots are not
updated, which leads to mksh builds refer old versions of
gcc or some libc (used when linking the mksh-static binary)
in its Built-Using field. The buildd admin gets a REJECT
from dak, because the version is neither in testing
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Yes. Human beings are perfectly able to communicate dislike for another
human's actions in a way that does not imply disrespect for that person.
But Debian beings are not able to distinguish between disrespect
for actions made by some person (while
On Sat, 11 Oct 2014, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
I assume that posh meets the strict definition of 10.4. And so
without actually changing policy, someone _could_ try setting /bin/sh
to be /bin/posh, and then start filing RC bugs against packages that
have scripts that break. Yes?
Yes, modulo two
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Dominik George wrote:
foo='x[$(rm -rf /)]'
echo $(( foo ))
Guess when the array index is evaluated? Now mind that it could be
This is fully and completely a user error. (User being the script.)
user-provided.
Never put “tainted” input into ksh arithmetics, period.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Those who are most impacted are sys admins of servers, and upstream developers
I’m both, and I joined Debian to try to make an impact…
- the two communities most impacted, but that seem to have no say in the
matter.
… but even then, am drowned by
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Neil Williams wrote:
(I did not have the chance to Second the GR proposal
because I was not even aware that there *was* one.)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/
Same procedure as previous calls for GR: debian-vote mailing list. If
Yeah, surprise, I don’t read
Stephane Chazelas dixit:
[ a lot, with which I vehemently disagree ]
If you need arrays, use $@ or use perl/python/ruby..., but
please don't break yet another shell with the Korn arrays or
arithmetics.
The good part about mksh i̲s̲ that it’s a programming language,
a nice one to use, much more
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Russ Allbery wrote:
If we were to decide that #309415 should be fixed in policy (and hence
posh), then it should be done by requiring support for the obsolescent
The problems with posh and dash are also the sheer number of bugs
in corner cases, which the more actively
Forwarding a bit of my answer on this. I don’t know what to
think about how this criticism immediately raises responses
like the two I already got, yet the other person in question
is allowed to disrespect his fellow DDs and just ignore the
fixes for real-world, although minority, problems.
I
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014, Adam Borowski wrote:
change your /bin/sh), 2. being (then) a violation of a must clause of
the policy.
To be fair: my bug wasn’t about -a and -o, but about the printf builtin
which Policy is silent about. Some shells do have a builtin printf,
most don’t. printf(1) lives in
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Russell Stuart wrote:
The only reason I ported things to dash is /bin/sh is now linked to it,
which in view makes it the standard shell. Every script starting with
#!/bin/sh must work with. If I can't get it working because of a
This is wrong. Every script starting with
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
In any case, adding -p to any #!/bin/bash shebang line looks like a very
good idea. Shall we add a Lintian check for this?
***ABSOLUTELY NOT***
The -p option is for the shell to *not* drop privileges when
called setuid.
bye,
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014, Russell Stuart wrote:
- pipefail,
mksh has “set -o pipefail” and the PIPESTATUS array.
- local variables,
mksh has them, of course. ksh93 only has them in
functions declared with the “function” keyword,
and lacks a default “alias local=typeset” to make
it useful.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, shawn wilson wrote:
In that case, I'd think busybox's sh is *much* more minimalist. Why dash
over busybox?
There is something called bugs. The busybox implementation
is artificially limited. Also, it uses the busybox common
code, which makes its codebase rather large.
The
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
bug in grep, xz-utils or gzip.
Only against that 3 tools that most likely are also used from network
For what it’s worth, OpenBSD/MirBSD have BSD-licenced
implementations of tools like zgrep, zless, etc. that
can be used (with s/gzip/xz/g) for xz as
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
I think I did the same with some settings in pbuilder.
I see nothing there that actually generates a Packages file.
## For details, see: http://wiki.debian.org/PbuilderTricks
This also indicates you need a “D” hook script to do that.
I just wrote
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote:
You can easily do this by downloading an email from the bug thread and
replying to that.
Luckily, if you do that, there's a great chance that you'll get both a helpful
Subject and References. :-)
Except if it’s the first mail in the thread, then you
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Hi *,
I’ve just written a hookscript for pbuilder which makes the
locally cached files available during a package build. Just
chmod +x it, drop it into the --hookdir, and you’re set¹².
Usage scenario here is mostly debian-ports: when building
packages that depend on each other, you no longer
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Usage scenario here is mostly debian-ports: when building
packages that depend on each other, you no longer have to
wait until the first package is Installed until you can
build the second package³. It also makes older packages,
Hrm. Just
Bill Allombert dixit:
10.1
Binaries must not be statically linked with the GNU C library,
see policy for exceptions.
It says there that exceptions *may* be granted, but not by whom.
So, who can grant an exception for the (already existing)
/bin/mksh-static file (which
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Vincent Danjean wrote:
When Debian switched the default syslog implementation (to rsyslog),
upgrades did not change already installed syslog implementation.
They most definitely did not do that, right.
The only one which did was GRUB → GRUB 2, which required the
user to
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Simon McVittie wrote:
systemd is compatible with LSB (i.e. sysvinit) init scripts. So is Upstart.
If LSB were == sysvinit, and not just a subset of it, we’d
have had *much* less troubles at work during the forced move
to insserv even with file-rc.
(Spoiler: cow-orkers,
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Well, online updates do break software from time to time on my system.
I’ve had to do unattended updates of our old Kubuntu desktop at work
at shutdown time as well, due to breakage involved in upgrading them
while being in use (especially the
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Gergely Nagy wrote:
OpenVPN works just fine with systemd. Its init script does not, but for
Yes, but for many installations, its init script is what is
required for the VPN to “work”.
There is no problem with that, at all.
Right, no problem except that remote machines
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Josh Triplett wrote:
* dc: a RPN calculator is pretty esoteric, bc is for normal people.
Just filed a bug for that one.
I'd actually argue that both bc and dc should become optional.
*no*!
bc is the standard Unix calculator, normally a dc frontend,
and used in *a
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote:
Because any-amd64 matches x32. (I kid you not.)
Because any-powerpc matches powerpc.
powerpcspe?
These are probably bugs in dpkg and related tools,
and massively unexpected.
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Simon McVittie wrote:
There might be situations where
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Mathieu Parent wrote:
4) Upgrade to systemd silently without asking the user AND add a grub
entry to use old init
These are the Linux bootloaders I came up within less than
five minutes of searching the ’net:
• Acronis OS Selector
• AiR-Boot
• AKernelLoader
• AMIBOOT
•
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
I agree that all those tools belong to a standard UNIX system. However,
is that among our goals to provide people with a standard UNIX system by
This is not about “by default”, but it *is* the definition
of priority:standard in Debian.
And yes, it’s
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
We could delay the transition-on-upgrade by one release, but the
migration from sysvinit to systemd on a Jessie - Jessie+1 upgrade will
probably end up less tested (though systemd itself would probably be
more tested by then).
Nobody says jessie+1
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Nick Phillips wrote:
Debian has a good and hard-earned reputation for not messing up
sysadmins' changes
Agreed. This is about the only thing I can currently use to
argue for use of Debian over *buntu in some places.
So, is it actually feasible to provide such a prompt?
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
No, it's not. The actual definition is very vague and does not refer to
Oh, my bad. I confused this with priority:important then.
So we should probably *raise* the priority of things like
bc, ed, etc. to important.
bye,
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Axel Beckert wrote:
cleo is a utility for playing back pre-recorded shell commands in a
live demonstration. cleo displays the commands as if you had actually
typed them and then executes them interactively.
Will it run them anew, or just display the output from the
first
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014, Michael Biebl wrote:
Steve, as long as bugs like [1] are not fixed in systemd-shim, I'm not
going to make it the first alternative. Installing a half-broken logind
whould be a disservice to our users.
Uhm, did you read this subthread at all?
Let me try to summarise:
At
On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Andreas Metzler wrote:
I think that is terrible idea, because it makes us release a system
that is lot less tested than it should be. If only fresh installs were
Nonsense. sysvinit must continue to work anyway, for various
reasons (upgrades, kfreebsd, the TC decision).
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Changwoo Ryu wrote:
As I said, such lowmem embeded devices don't even need to install big
packages.
Just you saying so doesn’t make it (more) true. Debian is a
universal operating system… at least it tries to. Maybe one
of these packages contains _one_ file you need to
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I would like to say thanks to the various maintainers involved in
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
Simon McVittie writes (Re: daemon user naming scheme):
It is reasonable to use /var/lib/foo (or /run/foo or /var/cache/foo or
/var/games/foo) as the home directory of a system user whose name is
_foo, debian-foo, Debian-foo or whatever.
You need to
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
I suppose we should always be sympathetic towards such architectures, but at
the end of the day we should primarily concern ourselves with release
architectures.
Such as mips?
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Christian Kastner wrote:
That is the key question, and I believe
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Changwoo Ryu wrote:
I think 65MIB for decompressing is OK with current hardwares as long
as it saves good amount of space and bandwidth.
Not on avr32, and it hurts sh4, m68k and others as well.
bye,
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On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Changwoo Ryu wrote:
I can't imagine any 31 MiB machine which needs to render megabytes of
It’s *additional* memory. On top of kernel, libc, apt, dpkg, and
whatever the user is running in parallel.
bye,
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2014, Ondřej Surý wrote:
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014, at 10:24, Marco d'Itri wrote:
I know, but if systems on which xz-utils is not easily available really
exist then the interested parties could replace it with xzdec which is
small and statically linked.
Is there such system or
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014, Changwoo Ryu wrote:
In my quick experiments with some font packages, -Sextream -z9
option still gives ~4% smaller size than the default. IMO this is
still significant for big font packages.
Maybe, but please stick to -Sextreme -z7 at most, nevertheless.
Thanks,
On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, Adam Borowski wrote:
Also, should we detect all other attempts to contact the outside network,
and swat such builds with extreme prejudice?
Yes. These can be privacy breeches, licence violations (download
things that change what gets embedded into the packages), and
all
On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
rejected. I hope a Blend would be a more constructive approach. I'm
thinking sysvinit would be the easiest 'flavour' to implement for
Actually, I think it’s the hardest one.
All others will be task selections run after debootstrap.
Changing the
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014, Adam Borowski wrote:
(I’m aware that there is still *too* much “disable the network” in
pbuilder. Sorry for not having had the time to work on that. I’ll
try to do so shortly.)
Could you tell us what's this too much?
#753944
Here's how I would do it:
unshare --net
Svante Signell dixit:
It would be nice to have the same init system:sysv-core, as well as the
same default desktop:mate-desktop-environment (including accessibility
enhancements), for all arches: Linux, kFreeBSD and Hurd :-) If possible,
this could be an option in the advanced menu of the
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014, Octavio Alvarez wrote:
Why don't you use JavaScript? I also don't like enabling JavaScript in
Because I use lynx as browser.
But then, this survey *does* work with Lynx. At least, I get a
success message at the end…
bye,
//mirabilos
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
On 17/08/2014 18:15, Clément Bœsch wrote:
- you leeching my work by leveraging git merge daily
Welcome to the wonderful world of Open Source Luca.
Sorry but no, definitely no.
While technically what ffmpeg does is allowed by the (L)GPL, it
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
There is something called LLVMpipe, it's a software fallback when there
Hm, but LLVM is not available for all Debian (CPU) architectures.
bye,
//mirabilos (let’s make IceWM the default desktop and good is.)
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
On 25/08/14 16:53, Simon McVittie wrote:
* Debian-foo
* Dfoo
Uppercase may have problems dealing with eMail.
Sometimes, dæmon users may want that. I strongly suggest
to not use uppercase letters in usernames, system or not.
I think I slightly
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
If you happen to run Debian or Ubuntu on a computer with an old Intel
processor (Pentium M, Celeron M, Pentium 4 Mobile, Mobile Celeron, Pentium
I’ve got an IBM X40. I can boot Grml off a USB stick, dist-upgrade
and run these commands, if
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
There still seems to be some legal contention around Apache License
2.0 expecting an authors list for a project. And I agree copyright
Not just that one, there are other licences with weird
terms like that.
significant enough to amend the
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Why would you tag the upstream release? I mean, it's upstream's job to
Yeah, if upstream uses git at least it should NOT be done by
the packager.
If not, it depends.
- shall we standardize the pristine-tar branch?
As in, always use pristine-tar?
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Russ Allbery wrote:
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
The first step is to determine which problem you are trying to solve.
Surprisingly insightful, this one.
I want to be able to check out a git repository and do packaging work and
an upload, without having to
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Like I wrote in another post, master doesn't express anything.
ACK.
All of this is error prone. Using upstream tags and merging them rather
than branches avoid troubles. I have yet to see a case where using
upstream tags wasn't practical.
There
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, Neil Williams wrote:
The vast majority (all?) of git packaging repositories have the
upstream sources.
No. None of mine do, or will.
I’m working with some which also don’t, and find it would be easier
if there were a way to extract a .orig.tar.gz in the same way that
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 04:16:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
- version encoding (due to git restrictions):
: - %
~ - _
I’d rather have something that sorts like Debian versions
in “git tag” output…
_ - _5f
: - _3a
~
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote:
What would probably work better would be to add the python library
inside upstream code.
That would work as well.
But then we have another issue: the Python module is supposed to be
packaged as python-something, and the JS libs are supposed to be
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Just a quick explanation of what I'm doing with the python-xstatic-*
packages here. I've thought about how to do it best for a long time.
Thanks! I was wondering.
It is also worth noting that the Debian package version for XStatic
modules is
Brian May dixit:
In what way will python-xstatic-jquery be better than libjs-jquery?
No.
What I meant is:
| Package: python-xstatic-jquery
| Provides: libjs-jquery
is better than
| Package: python-xstatic-jquery
| Depends: libjs-jquery
|
| Package: libjs-jquery
because it’s less packages.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
11. The prospective libjpeg-turbo maintainer should propose an appropriate
Who *is/are* the maintainer(s), anyway?
There are packaging bugs being ignored, and there is an open
bug on a non-release architecture whose suggested workaround
(or possibly
Andreas Cadhalpun:
So it's good that FFmpeg upstream does that backporting.
As opposed to, for example, MySQL and Iceweasel, for which
there is practically a blanket permission to upload new
upstream releases unchecked into stable. (There appears to
be one for Mediawiki and OpenJDK too, which do
Brian May wrote:
* apache2-reverse-dependency-calls-invoke-rc.d - due to legacy fall back
code that restarts Apache2.2 automatically.
Yeah, I'm overriding this one too.
* non-standard-apache2-configuration-name - due to the fact I need to
supply different configuration files for apache2.2 and
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Screen sessions, SSH sessions and computation processes running in
background are lost after a reboot, not after a relogin.
AIUI this is not true for systemd: once the session is
terminated, all background processes run in it are killed
too. There are lots of duckduckgo
Cameron Norman wrote:
I noticed that not doing the libraries cause apt to try to upgrade them
on dist-upgrade and do some weird operations like try to remove my
current init system and install systemd-sysv or remove all of systemd,
as well as NM and udisks and a lot of other packages.
FWIW,
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