Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Thomas Viehmann schreef: > Hi, > > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: >>> Next try: http://194.39.182.225/debian/xen/try4. >> Hmm.. these packages are not available anymore? >> URL changed? > Your local Debian sid mirror, e.g. package > xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64. Strange, I don't see the packages

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

My first message was refused because it was to long. Another try... Bastian Blank schreef: > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:52:09AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> >> I have it running on my amd64 machine! > > > > Okay. I use now the try4 packages (amd64) on the dom0. I did not have problems wit

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:19 PM, LM Jogbäck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Got a response from Novell, including a workaround. >> >> Next try: http://194.39.182.225/debian/xen/try4. >> >> | a01d76fa67414fd157c7f50be89525cc1f03dace >> linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb >> | 6ed1653d3f

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

> Got a response from Novell, including a workaround. > > Next try: http://194.39.182.225/debian/xen/try4. > > | a01d76fa67414fd157c7f50be89525cc1f03dace > linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb > | 6ed1653d3f8f68026803529bee10dec9e772f706 > linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_a

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Hello, I'm subscribed, no need to CC me. On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 09:01 +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:03:13AM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > > I upgraded a dom0 I maintain to Lenny, the kernel got upgraded and I had > > of course a boot failure when trying to boot

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Hi, Bastian Blank wrote: > Next try: http://194.39.182.225/debian/xen/try3. > This fixes a warning in the PCI registration and again uses xencons. I tried both try2 and try3 amd64-debs on a Lenny server (without previous xen install). After some initial errors (probably issues with the bridge I f

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:52:09AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > I have it running on my amd64 machine! Okay. > - the VM's do not start automatically, but they start with "xm create". Hmm. Please show the xend log (/var/log/xen/xend.log) from before the manual start. > - I can ping and SSH

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Bastian Blank schreef: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:20:19AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> Bastian Blank schreef: >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:40PM -0300, André Luís Lopes wrote: Bastian Blank escreveu: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 06:52:38PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: >>> Next try:

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Thursday 18 September 2008, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:20:19AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > Bastian Blank schreef: > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:40PM -0300, André Luís Lopes wrote: > > >> Bastian Blank escreveu: > > >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 06:52:38PM +0200

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:20:19AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Bastian Blank schreef: > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:40PM -0300, André Luís Lopes wrote: > >> Bastian Blank escreveu: > >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 06:52:38PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > > Next try: http://194.39.182.22

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Bastian Blank schreef: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:40PM -0300, André Luís Lopes wrote: >> Bastian Blank escreveu: >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 06:52:38PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > Next try: http://194.39.182.225/debian/xen/try2. > Checksums: > | facc08ef408b745052189d99e971ee0d0c014

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:03:13AM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > I upgraded a dom0 I maintain to Lenny, the kernel got upgraded and I had > of course a boot failure when trying to boot Xen 3.2 and linux 2.6.26. > I'm not really sure about the reason since it is a remotely hosted box, > but

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 15:40 -0300, André Luís Lopes wrote: > Gustavo Noronha Silva escreveu: > > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:31 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > >> ( but, I must say: I have tried to upgrade my 64-bit Etch dom0 to Lenny, > >> but it still does not work at the moment ) > > > > I upgra

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello kov, Gustavo Noronha Silva escreveu: > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:31 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> ( but, I must say: I have tried to upgrade my 64-bit Etch dom0 to Lenny, >> but it still does not work at the moment ) > > I upgraded a dom0 I

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:31 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > ( but, I must say: I have tried to upgrade my 64-bit Etch dom0 to Lenny, > but it still does not work at the moment ) I upgraded a dom0 I maintain to Lenny, the kernel got upgraded and I had of course a boot failure when trying to boot

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 09:42:13AM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote: > Good morning, > > On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > > since we have rolled out over 50 dom0 with etch, we are really interested > > > into having xen dom0 support in lenny. > > > > So far I know you can run Le

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Jan Wagner schreef: > since we have rolled out over 50 dom0 with etch, we are really interested > into > having xen dom0 support in lenny. So far I know you can run Lenny as a dom0, but not with the Lenny kernel. You can e.g. use the Etch Xen kernel or the Xensource kernel, both Linux 2.6.18.

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Good morning, On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > since we have rolled out over 50 dom0 with etch, we are really interested > > into having xen dom0 support in lenny. > > So far I know you can run Lenny as a dom0, but not with the Lenny > kernel. You can e.g. use the Etch

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10:30PM +0200]: I don't think that any of the alternatives are valid candidates yet: - Linux-Vserver, OpenVZ: clearly not the same use case. - Virtualbox,

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 09:15:09PM +0200, LM Jogbäck wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > SLES 11 will include Linux 2.6.26 with Xen patches - packages should be > > available any day now from > >

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SLES 11 will include Linux 2.6.26 with Xen patches - packages should be > available any day now from > . Is it > possible that those patches will be usable

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Guido Günther dijo [Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:34:25PM -0230]: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 08:37:01AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > [..snip..] > > dom0 support is being worked on by Fedora people (I think) but there are > > no patches upstream yet. > We could recommend kvm+xenner+libvirt as "dom0" for p

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 08:37:01AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: [..snip..] > dom0 support is being worked on by Fedora people (I think) but there are > no patches upstream yet. We could recommend kvm+xenner+libvirt as "dom0" for people with hardware virtualization support: http://kraxel.fedorapeopl

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:56:24PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:44:00PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:44:00PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > See

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps > > >> > > I think x86-64 xen

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps > >> > > I think x86-64 xen patches are going in for 2.6.27.. > > > > Lenny will not support 64bit, no

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps >> > > I think x86-64 xen patches are going in for 2.6.27.. > > Lenny will not support 64bit, no dom0.. so basicly lenny can only be used as > a 32bit domU .. unl

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Gunnar Wolf, le Wed 16 Jul 2008 07:42:37 -0500, a écrit : > > I could live with the I/O slowdown but nothing will make hardware > > magically appear. > > Please explain further on this. Do you mean that xen can run > paravirtualized hosts without the hardware features (i.e. the lesser > CPUs sold

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10:30PM +0200]: >> > I don't think that any of the alternatives are valid candidates yet: >> > - Linux-Vserver, OpenVZ: clearly not the same use case. >> > - Virtualbox, qemu: poor performance under some w

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:11:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > > > Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine > > which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's > > kernel. I

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10:30PM +0200]: > > I don't think that any of the alternatives are valid candidates yet: > > - Linux-Vserver, OpenVZ: clearly not the same use case. > > - Virtualbox, qemu: poor performance under some workloads. > > Unusable for production work. E

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:35 +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, B

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine > which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's > kernel. I would like to do that in a different way. > > If we will not see dom0 in lin

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 14:11 +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > > > Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine > > which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's > > kernel. I would l

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:35 +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +03

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:23:26PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57:26AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > > see relevant posts of Ian C

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:23:26PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Like said, this thread was started to discuss about possible options of > getting xen dom0 support into lenny, and I pasted that git link to give a > status update of pv_ops work happening atm. current best guess is lenny+half. h

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57:26AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > see relevant posts of Ian Campbell on d-kernel > > > > > > > You mean this?: http://lists.debian.o

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:35:09PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:5

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > see relevant posts of Ian Campbell on d-kernel > > > > You mean this?: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/07/msg00070.html > > I think the situation has chan

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > > > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzharding

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the > > > important Xen kernel features

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the > > important Xen kernel features ported to pv_ops framework and integrated > > into vanilla linus kernels soon

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:51:12AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:42 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > > I guess it was faster _now_, but they'll have to live with the forward > > porting pain for years more now.. > > While this is true, the patches still allo

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:40:38AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:12 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > > > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitz

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> The problem also appears for vserver kernel. > > It is currently in Sid [1], and it has been for some time already. It > seems it will very soon reach Lenny [2] (In case status changes by the > moment you check it: linux-2.6 is going in today (thanks to manual > hinting by lu

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Hi, On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:42 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > I guess it was faster _now_, but they'll have to live with the forward > porting pain for years more now.. While this is true, the patches still allow for Debian to ship Lenny without a feature regression in Xen support. William

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:12 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the > > > important Xen kernel

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the > > important Xen kernel features ported to pv_ops framework and integrated > > into vanill

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the > important Xen kernel features ported to pv_ops framework and integrated > into vanilla linus kernels soon.. > > Status/todo: > http://wiki.xensource.com/xen

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 15/07/08 at 14:01 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> Xen is just one solution to virtualisation. I may agree that a general >> decision to support virtualisation on Debian could be a policy decision, but >> whether we'll support one specific technolo

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:49:07PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 09:24:08AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > > > > Xensource has a developer working on getting xen patches ported to Linux > > pv_ops framework and integrated into upstream (vanilla) k

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 09:24:08AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > Xensource has a developer working on getting xen patches ported to Linux > pv_ops framework and integrated into upstream (vanilla) kernel. That is, to me, only mildly encouraging. 2.6.18 came out on Sept.

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 09:24:08AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 15/07/08 at 14:01 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > - KVM: is very promising but is it really a valid alternative *now* > > for current Xen users? > > That is an interesting question. We are doing some

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > One big difference between Xen and KVM is the fact that KVM always requires > hardware virtualization (HVM) support from the CPU. It uses the the qemu device emulation code, which is security wise one large catastrophe. Okay, Xen

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:54:09PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 15/07/08 at 14:01 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > Xen is just one solution to virtualisation. I may agree that a general > > decision to support virtualisation on Debian could be a policy decision, > > but > > whether we'll s

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 15/07/08 at 14:01 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > - KVM: is very promising but is it really a valid alternative *now* > for current Xen users? That is an interesting question. We are doing some research on that topic right now. I've migrated some VMware and xen stuff

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 01:08:23PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 12/07/08 at 19:39 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:10:28AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > We (Debian) should make a clear statement that users of Debian as dom0 > > > will have at least one supported

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On 15/07/08 at 14:01 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Xen is just one solution to virtualisation. I may agree that a general > decision to support virtualisation on Debian could be a policy decision, but > whether we'll support one specific technology, for which there are many > alternatives, is

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Tuesday 15 July 2008 13:08, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > How/if we will support Xen in lenny is more a policy decision than a > technical decision, even if it has important technical aspects. > > Even if it's not optimal, I agree with do-ocracy for technical > decisions. However, using it for everyth

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On 12/07/08 at 19:39 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:10:28AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > We (Debian) should make a clear statement that users of Debian as dom0 > > will have at least one supported configuration at any time during the > > lenny lifetime. > > What I do

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 09:53:25PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> What are the plans for Xen for lenny? Is this situation likely to change >> before the release? > > It will ship the hypervisor and a domU kernel. For dom0 it will need > either the etch

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Paul van der Vlis dijo [Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:41:20PM +0200]: > Maybe we can stop with etch-and-a-half. For the security-team is > supporting the etch-and-a-half kernel (2.6.24) a lot more work then > supporting the etch-kernel. > > I think "etch-and-a-half" is a good idea, but the team is very

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Steve Langasek schreef: > >> If the Debian security team is unwilling or unable to provide support for a >> 2.6.18 kernel over the lifetime of lenny, I'm happy to see us let dom0 be >> Somebody Else's Problem. I'm certainly happier with that than having us >> /claim/ to

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Steve Langasek schreef: > If the Debian security team is unwilling or unable to provide support for a > 2.6.18 kernel over the lifetime of lenny, I'm happy to see us let dom0 be > Somebody Else's Problem. I'm certainly happier with that than having us > /claim/ to support 2.6.18, have users rely

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > The distro used on dom0 is pretty uninteresting, given that part of the > point of having Xen-style virtualization for servers is to a) be able to run > different OSes in different guests, and b) not to run services in dom0.[1] A recent kernel to supp

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 06:01:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi, > The distro used on dom0 is pretty uninteresting, given that part of the > point of having Xen-style virtualization for servers is to a) be able to run > different OSes in different guests, and b) not to run services in dom0.[1]

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 06:01:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 06:05:14PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > I think the first question to resolve is to establish that it *is* > > > supported... > > > I think that the prudent thing for Debian to do is to continue to

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:10:28AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > The problem I see with that is that people will be left without a > > > supported dom0 kernel at some point during the etch lifetime. Do we have > > > a plan to address that? Shouldn't we make it clear that we will support > > >

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 06:05:14PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > I think the first question to resolve is to establish that it *is* > > supported... > I think that the prudent thing for Debian to do is to continue to > support the older kernel if that is the only way to ensure Xen support >

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Vincent Bernat dijo [Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:08:09PM +0200]: > > The problem I see with that is that people will be left without a > > supported dom0 kernel at some point during the etch lifetime. Do we have > > a plan to address that? Shouldn't we make it clear that we will support > > the etch ke

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On 12/07/08 at 12:03 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:18:51PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > What are the plans for Xen for lenny? Is this situation likely to change > > > > before the release? > > > > It will ship the hypervisor and a domU kernel. For dom0 it will n

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:03:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:18:51PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > What are the plans for Xen for lenny? Is this situation likely to change > > > > before the release? > > > > It will ship the hypervisor and a domU kernel. For

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:18:51PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > What are the plans for Xen for lenny? Is this situation likely to change > > > before the release? > > It will ship the hypervisor and a domU kernel. For dom0 it will need > > either the etch or my own[1] kernel. This may be cha

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

OoO Pendant le temps de midi du vendredi 11 juillet 2008, vers 12:18, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait : > The problem I see with that is that people will be left without a > supported dom0 kernel at some point during the etch lifetime. Do we have > a plan to address that? Shouldn't we

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On 11/07/08 at 12:18 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/07/08 at 11:24 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > - all major distros shipped with "full" Xen support > > > > RHEL5/FC8 are 2.6.18 based and ships full support. SLES10 is 2.6.16 based > > and ships full support. FC9 is 2.6.24 based

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:18:51PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 11/07/08 at 11:24 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > Anything else can be considered more or less broken. > It seems that Ubuntu 8.04 shipped with a 2.6.24 domU. So Ubuntu is > the only distro shipping a dom0 based on Linux >> 2.6.18

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Hi, On 11/07/08 at 11:24 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > - all major distros shipped with "full" Xen support > > RHEL5/FC8 are 2.6.18 based and ships full support. SLES10 is 2.6.16 based > and ships full support. FC9 is 2.6.24 based and ships only domU support. > Anything else can be considered m

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

Ian Campbell schreef: > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 21:53 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> Hi, >> >> AFAIK, the status of Xen in lenny is currently the following: >> - no dom0 kernel >> - domU kernel only for i386 (no domU kernel for amd64) >> >> I was told (I don't remember where) that this is because th

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 09:53:25PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > AFAIK, the status of Xen in lenny is currently the following: > - no dom0 kernel Yep. There are some preliminary patches but they break non-paravirt usage for now. > - domU kernel only for i386 (no domU kernel for amd64) x86_64 is

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 21:53 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > AFAIK, the status of Xen in lenny is currently the following: > - no dom0 kernel > - domU kernel only for i386 (no domU kernel for amd64) > > I was told (I don't remember where) that this is because the vanilla > kernel only suppo