Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Wed, 17 May 2006, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> How does sending directly to from reportbug to an ISP's smarthost
>> validate the user's email address better than sending directly from
>> reportbug to a HTTP POST somewhere?
> I'm talking about an HTTP a
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Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:35 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
>>> Except, this is _doubling_ a question that was already asked somewhere else,
>>> ie, a bug. The UNIX way of configuring
Scripsit Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:35 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>> Except, this is _doubling_ a question that was already asked somewhere else,
>> ie, a bug. The UNIX way of configuring the mail is setting up a binary that
>> knows how to deliver it as "/usr/sbi
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> What about modifying it to work through something like an http POST?
>
> > I'm personally not too terribly interested in implementing an HTTP
> > access method for the BTS, because it makes it more easy f
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
> It blocks *incoming* port 25 traffic for well understood reasons.
Yes, purely commercial reasons.
> I never knew, though that it also blocks all *outgoing* smtp
> traffic except to it's own servers. Maybe to Winbots from emailing
> files back "home"?
Ye
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 23:28 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:35:44 +0200, Adam Borowski
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Why this tool is written in python, an interpreted language with a run
> time system the size of Buckingham Palace, The White House and the
> Kreml combi
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:47 +0200, Michal Čihař wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:44:19 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Interesting. b.d.o doesn't seem to be answering on port 25 though.
>
> Doesn't your provider block port 25?
>
> $ telnet bugs.debian.org 25
> Trying 140.211
On 15 May 2006, at 1:13 pm, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
More generally, Perl modules to send mail rather than using
/usr/sbin/sendmail are often useful with web applications (or other
applications that need security isolation) that are running in a
chroo
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:35:44 +0200, Adam Borowski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Except, this is _doubling_ a question that was already asked somewhere else,
>ie, a bug. The UNIX way of configuring the mail is setting up a binary that
>knows how to deliver it as "/usr/sbin/sendmail"; it doesn't matte
On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:44:19 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting. b.d.o doesn't seem to be answering on port 25 though.
Doesn't your provider block port 25?
$ telnet bugs.debian.org 25
Trying 140.211.166.43...
Connected to bugs.debian.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 sp
Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> What about modifying it to work through something like an http POST?
> I'm personally not too terribly interested in implementing an HTTP
> access method for the BTS, because it makes it more easy for bug
> submissions to be sent from people who can n
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 10:41 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> >> >> On
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:35 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:58:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
[snip]
> Except, this is _doubling_ a question that was already asked somewhere else,
> ie, a bug. The UNIX way o
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:58:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > >> The point is that they could if the wanted to. And if they did, it
> > >> would work for _all_ programs, not just particular perl scripts that
> > >> happen to use som
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> >> > On the "home desktop" reportbug
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 22:39 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>
> >> The point is that they could if the wanted to. And if they did, it
> >> would work for _all_ programs, not just particular perl
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> >> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> > On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send
> >> > email
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> > reportbug sends mail to wherever it is configured; the default
> > setup should be to send mail to bugs.debian.org, not the ISP's
> > smtp server, since that can't be known in advance. [I don't know
> > if this is the default
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> > On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send
>> > email directly to the ISP's smtp server. And that's a good thing,
>> > because,
Scripsit Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> The point is that they could if the wanted to. And if they did, it
>> would work for _all_ programs, not just particular perl scripts that
>> happen to use some obscure perl module to send mails
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send
> > email directly to the ISP's smtp server. And that's a good thing,
> > because, for a long time, reportbug did not have that fe
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 11:04 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> >> Scripsit "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:13:46PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
[snip]
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:18 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Krzysztof Krzyzaniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> That would be accessible to _all_ programs whether they are written in
> >> Perl or not.
>
> > But I still not get it why not to use Email::Send and choose method
> > there?
>
> B
Scripsit Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 11:04 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> Scripsit "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:13:46PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> >> Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chro
Scripsit Krzysztof Krzyzaniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> That would be accessible to _all_ programs whether they are written in
>> Perl or not.
> But I still not get it why not to use Email::Send and choose method
> there?
Because one might not be programming in Perl.
> Email::Send is not another s
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 13:20 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> >
> > reportbug sends mail to wherever it is configured; the default setup
> > should be to send mail to bugs.debian.org, not the ISP's smtp server,
> > since that can't be known in advance. [I don't know if this
On May 16, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Except that many ISPs now block outbound port 25 (at least on
> consumer-level service), except for what is relayed through their mail
> servers.
Agreed. It's not reasonable to expect that port 25 connections from
large consumer ISPs wil
Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> reportbug sends mail to wherever it is configured; the default setup
> should be to send mail to bugs.debian.org, not the ISP's smtp server,
> since that can't be known in advance. [I don't know if this is the
> default now, but it should be the default.]
>
Except that m
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send
> email directly to the ISP's smtp server. And that's a good thing,
> because, for a long time, reportbug did not have that feature, and
> people who don't know how to configure MTAs were no
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060516 15:14]:
> > Then something else. One can easily envisage installing as
> > /usr/bin/sendmail something that reads an email, immediately
> > sends it to a smarthost via SMTP and exits with an error if a problem
> > happened. No daemon, no local spool.
>
> N
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 11:04 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:13:46PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>
> >> Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chroot's
> >> /usr/bin/sendmail? E.g. nullmailer
Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:13:46PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>
>>> Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chroot's
>>> /usr/bin/sendmail? E.g. nullmailer.
>
>> nullmailer is, in general, bro
Scripsit "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:13:46PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chroot's
>> /usr/bin/sendmail? E.g. nullmailer.
> nullmailer is, in general, broken.
Then something else. One ca
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:16:32AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> verbose and chatty about seemingly normal occasions. In general, I've only
> seen problems with it; even sendmail seems easier to get to work. With
> hand-written config file. Written in ed.
With or without the Sendmail bible?
* Norbert Tretkowski:
>> (Nice when the error is because the mail was over 50MB.)
>
> There are better ways to transfer big files than SMTP.
That's presumably why the receving side rejected the message.
Apparently, nullmailer cannot deal gracefully with that situation. 8-(
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* Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:13:46PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the
> > chroot's /usr/bin/sendmail? E.g. nullmailer.
>
> nullmailer is, in general, broken.
>
> For one, it doesn't seem to understand err
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:13:46PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Why not just install some software that can speak SMTP as the chroot's
> /usr/bin/sendmail? E.g. nullmailer.
nullmailer is, in general, broken.
For one, it doesn't seem to understand errors at the other side; 5xx is
simply interpr
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Scripsit Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> More generally, Perl modules to send mail rather than using
>> /usr/sbin/sendmail are often useful with web applications (or other
>> applications that need security isolation) that are running in a
>> chroo
Scripsit Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> More generally, Perl modules to send mail rather than using
> /usr/sbin/sendmail are often useful with web applications (or other
> applications that need security isolation) that are running in a chroot.
> To use /usr/sbin/sendmail in the chroot require
Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 01:20:20PM +0200, Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy) wrote:
>> Email::Send provides a very simple, very clean, very specific interface
>> to multiple Email mailers. The goal if this software is to be small
>^
>> and simple, ea
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Scripsit "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Email::Send provides a very simple, very clean, very specific interface
>> to multiple Email mailers. The goal if this software is to be small
>> and simple, easy to use, and easy to exte
Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Email::Send provides a very simple, very clean, very specific interface
to multiple Email mailers. The goal if this software is to be small
and simple, easy to use, and easy to extend.
What's wrong with the l
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 01:20:20PM +0200, Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy) wrote:
> Email::Send provides a very simple, very clean, very specific interface
> to multiple Email mailers. The goal if this software is to be small
^
> and simple, easy to use, and easy to extend.
Scripsit "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Email::Send provides a very simple, very clean, very specific interface
> to multiple Email mailers. The goal if this software is to be small
> and simple, easy to use, and easy to extend.
What's wrong with the legacy /usr/sbin/sendm
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