Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-11 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Paul Seelig wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:29:37AM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > > On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: > > > > > RMS should IMHO publically apologize with the KDE people for this > > > condescending part of his otherwise correct article. He should be > > > > So now _you_

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-10 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:20:01PM -0600, Richard Stallman wrote: > I think you ought to apologize, for supporting this mob. I have > no reason to apologize for being its victim. I, on behalf of everyone involved in the GPL KDE fiasco, humbly apologize to everyone else for the actions, comitted b

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-10 Thread Raul Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Stallman) writes: > > Meanwhile, you don't seem to be concerned about the mob of people > > who are attacking me. On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 06:06:53PM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: > I may now be even more concerned that you seem to consider the authors > of free KDE software

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-09 Thread Richard Stallman
You are picking at little details of my words, reading into them a hostility which is not there. Meanwhile, you don't seem to be concerned about the mob of people who are attacking me. To me that says "injustice" and "double standard". Injustice, because you blame me for meanings that others pro

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:14 AM 9/8/00 -0400, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But RMS speaking like *this* is rather unappropriate and IMHO quite > insulting. I wonder if the author of ncftp who was hurting the GPL by > using readline and who subsequently put ncftp under GPL as co

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But RMS speaking like *this* is rather unappropriate and IMHO quite > insulting. I wonder if the author of ncftp who was hurting the GPL by > using readline and who subsequently put ncftp under GPL as consequence > of complaints was asked to beg for being

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Joseph Carter wrote: > IMO, this makes him as dangerous > as Eric Raymond. OTOH, Eric Raymond owns guns and is fanatic about it :-) Paul Slootman -- home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wurtel.demon.nl/ work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.murphy

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:56:06AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: > Without being a KDE/Qt user myself, this is what makes me understand > the anger of the KDE developers. The problem with that is that the KDE developers have chosen to assume that because Richard has been an ass to them (and quite clea

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:01:37AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: > > Richard's comment was apparently on the order of "It's about time", which > > apparently managed to peeve the KDE people who felt they needed to flame > > him publicly over it.. *sigh* > > > It was not the harmless "about time" par

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Seelig
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 08:24:30PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: [ just more of the same ] > because of the long and bitter public debates, RMS had to say something > and he had to make a public statement that it was now OK for KDE to use > any FSF owned code. if he had just ignored the fact that t

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Seelig
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:29:37AM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: > > > RMS should IMHO publically apologize with the KDE people for this > > condescending part of his otherwise correct article. He should be > > So now _you_ are telling someone to ask for fo

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: > > > about. They IMHO righfully complained about RMS' "forgiving" talk > which is more like religious speech from a church or something. > If the catholic pope would utter such words it could be silently > ignored, though it would be appropriate speech in

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:01:37AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:52:04PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: > > > Richard's comment was apparently on the order of "It's about time", > > which apparently managed to peeve the KDE people who felt they > > needed to flame him publicl

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Seelig
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:52:04PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: > Richard's comment was apparently on the order of "It's about time", which > apparently managed to peeve the KDE people who felt they needed to flame > him publicly over it.. *sigh* > It was not the harmless "about time" part those

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:52:04PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: > Fortunately, my part of it is done - KDE is being uploaded to Debian > now to join Qt in main. Unfortunately, not by any action of KDE. Troll > Tech made the decision. KDE and Debian both benefit. I can speak > for a sizable portion o

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 01:19:06PM -0300, Ben Woodhead wrote: > First I would like to give my appologies, I was not aware of the incomming > directory and I have been told that kde will be included. I would also like > to say that I personally do not use kde nor am a developer for them, my > conser