ould have reopened it
immediately. Closing a bug out of hand just because you don't agree with
where it has been filed is completely wrong.
See #126829 for my arguments about this.
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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:19:02PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:41:59PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> > If a bug I filed had been treated that way, I would have reopened it
> > immediately. Closing a bug out of hand just because you don't agree w
ecially
> that the package is ITA: for a few days...
Generally speaking, when you're going through the enormous wnpp bug list
and trying to help out by tidying it up, life's too short to work out
the length of time for which a package has been ITAed (it
broken and the bar is
solid, although it seems to generate pipe anyway with this keymap) and
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from /usr/share/doc-base/happydoc, owned by
python-happydoc-doc. The first paragraph of that file needs to include a
Section: line.
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*always* compile all packages against
> the latest library version and not downgrade the builg dependency to an
> old library. We have did the same change to move to libdb3.
>
> I really want to know why recompiling gdk-imlib1 is too hard ?
It would change imlib's interface in
was proposing that as a reason not to change it during a freeze, not
as a practical short-term transition plan. :)
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See the "Troubleshooting" section. The debconf documentation often
doesn't use the db_ prefix when discussing commands, since that's only
used by the shell confmodule and not the Perl confmodule.
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>
> He should retitle the WNPP bug(s) to RFA to indicate that he intends to
> adopt.
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pty directory.
What happened to the transition plan that said we'd ship woody with a
/usr/doc full of symlinks, not no /usr/doc at all?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte-9908/msg00038.html
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> sysutils: /usr/doc
I fixed sysutils in unstable recently.
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u can google for them fairly effectively - for instance, the third hit
in a search for "Debian BSP" is relevant.
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reassign 25847 makedev
retitle 25847 makedev: /dev/tty[0-9]* shouldn't be world-writeable
thanks
OK, let's get this old bug away from general. Ethan Benson wrote some
time back:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:49:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > They're root:root mode 06
one off the pile, and keep track of what
people are working on.
It can also be useful to prepare a triaged list beforehand of bugs that
need work (I did that once and it seemed to be very helpful).
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w to get it to work at all -
whatever I tried just ended up with "0 processed of 0". I don't have a
local mirror, so I'd like it just to use the available file.
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gt; from -maintonly.
-quiet doesn't even mail the maintainer, unlike -maintonly - it's mostly
intended for use by maintainers dropping comments into their own bugs.
At the moment it still sends an ack though.
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ebstd is
monolithic while debhelper is modular.
There used to be a dh_debstd script to aid migration, but it was removed
because "It was a nice thought-toy, but nobody really used it, right?".
That seems to have been true in practice - if people are going to
convert to debhelper, they generally
it's replaced by
> > > dh_make?
> >
> > Because many packages still depend on it.
>
> Are there any statistics somewhere, how many packages use debmake,
> how many use debhelper and how many use something completely different?
Yes:
for some time as far as I know, and this particular glitch is only
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that should be. For example, you have
to recompile a lot of packages to change some of their build-time
options, which is even more work than changing a file in /usr/share. Not
every one of these is a release-critical bug.
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Not considered
In other words, it's currently mostly mozilla that's broken, not galeon.
I guess that if mozilla is fixed then galeon may be able to get in
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investigate that right now; mips doesn't seem to have even attempted the
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On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:21:14AM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 09:56:12PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> > The build on sparc is due to something else, don't have time to
> > investigate that right now; mips doesn't seem to have even attempted
programming, where invariant sections could
conceivably be included as part of C source files.)
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ading bugs to grave where they'd already been filed. Since the
versions in woody all appear to be fine, I'm making sure all these bugs
get tagged 'sid' so that they don't affect the release.
I hope this will help the new postgresql to get into testing a little
m
it's too much. Some init scripts have targets, such as
checking the status of the daemon, that are perfectly executable by
ordinary users.
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Also, when more than one page exists man will ask you if you want to
display the next one it's found after displaying the first one. Try it.
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> On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 02:09, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I'm currently in the process of filing bugs on those packages in
> > unstable that still depend on libpgsql2.1 rather than libpgsql2, or
> > upgrading
it was
removed.
> None of these packages have RC bugs. masqmail itself just has two
> important bugs which will even be closed in the next release. What is
> the problem? Did I miss something?
Only that not all of the removals were done in the five seconds b
license
> > into the common reference area?
> >
> > Who should I talk to about this?
>
> Please check #139437...
... and #79538 and #123074.
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On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:12:07PM +0200, Thimo Neubauer wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 09:02:07AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:33:11PM +0200, Thimo Neubauer wrote:
> > > None of these packages have RC bugs. masqmail itself just has two
> >
not be available for
> the woody release since it was a fix for the 0.5.2-2 version which was
> yanked from woody
I don't know what you're reading, but it's not the same thing as me ...
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> update_output.txt says:
>
> trying: postgresql
> skipped: postgresql (134+2)
> got: 46+0: a-46
> * alpha: courier-authpostgresql, dbf2pg, ddt-server, gda-postgres,
> gphotocoll, gtksql, guile-p
since it affects their configuration languages.
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On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:57:00AM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
> On Mon 08 Apr 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 09:40:04AM -0700, David D.W. Downey wrote:
> > > Just wondering why libpam-pgsql was removed from the woody lineup.
> >
> > It has
uture. *That's* what debian-devel is about - a list for improving
the technical quality of Debian. Turning it into advocacy and other
non-technical debates is the very reason why many of our best developers
don't even bother to subscribe to this list any more.
(In that spirit, plea
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:45:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:21:49PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:29:14PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > > Vmware isn't even in Debian. This is truely a problem of vmware
> &
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:49:45PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> To clarify, not all of these packages are buggy in sid. The ones (by
> source package) that have a problem appear to be something like this at
> the moment:
>
> courier-ssl dbf2sql ddt gql gtksql guile-pg lib
ccepted though for back
wards-compatibility.
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forgets about the historical difficulty of getting the installation
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there should
be a short bootstrapping document somewhere obvious; thus, at a loss for
anything else to do with it, I'm going to reassign this bug to 'general'
and ask for further discussion.
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> Why don't create one package named doc-newbie?
That, again, would have to be installed as standard to satisfy this bug
report. Remember that the instructions being asked for are even simpler
than "how do I install a package?".
Also note th
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:22:25PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Yes... then, why don't create one new task to newbie
> documentation... is the easy way to this may installed by user.
Hm. I thought we used to have one of those.
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the maintainer still has to bug ftpmaster to change it in the override
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-8:a-6:h-15:i-3
* i386: jmeter
(missing j2sdk1.3)
trying: junit
skipped: junit (148+2)
got: 32+0: a-8:a-6:h-15:i-3
* i386: junit
(missing java2-runtime | j2re1.3)
There are probably some similar non-Java packages I've missed.
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completely different functions but whose names happen to clash.
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t the
installer team has time to maintain as we already have enough to do with
one graphical frontend.
Right now, fixing the Perl Qt4 bindings and updating the existing
debconf "KDE" frontend (it really just uses Qt, but such is its
historical name) seems to be the preferable approach by a l
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Colin Watson
* Package name: haskell-shake
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Programming Lang: Haskell
Description : build
d that I did so (this was well before
the licence change, which I have not thought very deeply about).
But I'm not sure that it would be helpful to be aggressive about
removing Berkeley DB entirely; in the medium term I think the best we
could hope for would be to r
t into the Debian packaging for my next upload:
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-grub/grub.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bea8b3e2d4718fca3625d6e9707cbf249cb7aa6;hp=3d7a403d28c23372a4ef17c27622366bd2196670
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3.0 (quilt) packages in dgit, where you want to make sure to
round-trip cleanly.
* Not really git-dpm's fault, but the bug fixed in
http://www.spinics.net/lists/git/msg234123.html caused some confusion
on a couple of occasions when rebasing against new upstream releas
break such a setup.
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:45:14AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 18 juillet 2014 à 09:33 +0100, Colin Watson a écrit :
> > It's still possible to use /usr as a separate filesystem (I hope we can
> > avoid derailing into an argument about whether that's a
eo right
now but it should be quite easy to find given that.
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I'll hopefully get to finishing this at DebConf; I think I merged most
of the safe and independent pieces already, and mostly just need to deal
with wget-udeb. I'm not expecting to backport this to wheezy though.
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non-Debian
systems from which one might be running debootstrap have xz-utils
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> Let's admit for the moment that d-i is spethial,
As an aside, the more I read from people affected by such issues the
more I realise that this term is ableist and offensive. Could you
pleas
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:51:41PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> grub needs porting (or needs to build for amd64 or i386 on x32) which
> I may have a look at later;
Hopefully not difficult:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760428
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> No, they should add amd64 as a foreign architecture.
Should we do this by default for x32 in d-i? (Yes, I know d-i doesn't
support x32 in other ways yet, but we might as well get started at some
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> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 05:29:41PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:43:01PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > No, they should add amd64 as a foreign architecture.
> >
> > Should
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:25:43PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 17:29 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:43:01PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > No, they should add amd64 as a foreign architecture.
> >
> > Should we do
les-all) and using localedef to generate a temporary locale for the
course of the build. If this is done at run-time then I might
reluctantly accept the need for a dependency on locales-all, but it's
usually a sign that some refactoring is needed.
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> Does update-menus really need bash? Why?
pipefail is actually a fairly useful bashism.
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And if you do then there is pipeline_wait_all(3) ;-)
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primitive operation. As it is, I think recent versions of POSIX make an
excellent argument for why they're a terrible idea, and I've generally
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> Jakub Wilk writes:
> > * Colin Watson , 2014-10-04, 09:43:
> >> If we were to decide that #309415 should be fixed in policy (and hence
> >> posh), then it should be done by requiring support for the obso
ix specification explain how to reset terminals?
The quoted mail has nothing to do with terminals; and, regardless of any
movement to cut down on the use of bash scripts in Debian itself, you'll
of course still be able to use bash for your own purposes.
> Have you ever read this
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 11:23:37AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Colin Watson
>man-db
>openssh (U)
Thanks, I hadn't realised these paths had changed; I'm fairly sure that
maintainer script code dates from a time when dpkg-statoverride was new
and it wasn't sa
Control: reassign -1 grub-common
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:11:11PM +0100, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote:
> * Colin Watson [141106 16:06]:
> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 03:53:58PM +0100, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote:
> > > Please add the "splash" option to the Li
rk win).
OK, so remove the top-down bit where admin@alioth has to decide stuff
about who gets to be a maintainer.
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required some tedious manual work.)
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is distinct enough, that I think there's very unlikely to be a clash and
you should be fine. So, if all you need is dynamically-allocated IDs,
then go ahead.
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ly failed; plenty of simple system
monitoring tools (top, ps, and the like) truncate long usernames in many
modes or turn them into UIDs, and sticking a seven-character prefix on
the front just seems to be trying to maximise the probability of trouble
like this, even though it is certainly clea
d was GRUB. In that case,
Vladimir and I recently removed all the uses of nested functions
upstream, and the 2.01 release will not use them. If it helps you to
make arguments to other upstream maintainers, here's the rationale I
posted for pushing this work:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/ht
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auth-plain, which is currently orphaned, but it'd be nice
to have a few more.
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available as of $release", which is perhaps useful. So maybe the
dpkg-deb option shouldn't be just an assertion, but should instead print
out a machine-readable list of properties of the .deb; then we could
check which properties are permitted. What do you think?
ho really felt they needed it to take a copy of
the last available version of it and run that. As I say, I'm sceptical
that this would be worth bothering with in reality.
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vulnerability-checking code will actually help? I'm particularly
interested if anyone has experience dealing with cleaning up such a
system they found under a rock.
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(This does mean parsing the raw files yourself.)
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t doesn't - it just remembers which ones were changed, and
removes them on clean. I think this is a bug, although it hasn't
stopped me using dh-autoreconf since it's such an improvement on what I
was doing before in just about every other way.
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I will immediately recuse myself
from the vote and from further part in the discussion. I'd hope that
would be generally understood as ethical behaviour.
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ix this kind
of thing in advance, just as (for example) it's valuable to make sure
that config.guess/sub files are suitably updated in advance of somebody
actually coming along and trying to bring up new architectures in
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:51:41AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Colin Watson wrote:
> > The usefulness of supporting --as-needed isn't because of Ubuntu. It's
> > because switching --as-needed on across the board
>
> I think it would b
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 07:57:50AM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
> I don't have anything against Colin Watson, and have nothing in
> particular to complain about in his reply concerning the conflict of
> interest. But I don't think there really is much he could even
> theoretical
to fix #184979 for rather a long time now and have
been conspicuously failing to get round to it; from my local tree it
looks like all I ever managed to do was put together some template text.
Partially-working patches stand a good chance of getting me to debug
them into a more complete state, so
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:42:30PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Colin Watson writes:
> > However, there's an awkward problem blocking the change, namely #184979.
> > The last time I made any change to passwd.master or group.master that
> > caused update-passwd to prompt
ng it being used more for things you care about.
Cheers,
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BIOS versions released in the last
couple of years.
I don't have links for you (in many cases they're people turning up on
IRC for support and the like), but the idea that BIOS vendors routinely
bother to fix these kinds of bugs seems to be a myth.
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want to add the appropriate Pre-Depends, we'll cope if you don't.
Thanks,
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