to dinner can say PUT ME ON
YOUR DO-NOT-CALL LIST IMMEDIATELY!. write the software so that it is
trivially easy for the telemarketer to add numbers to that list.
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On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 10:50:06PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
On Oct 03, Craig Sanders wrote:
IMO, this is morally akin to writing free software specifically to make
spamming cheaper and easier.
No, it isn't. Survey research is an important part of the social
sciences.
it may
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 01:02:55AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
even opt-out lists are the wrong solution...because they don't work very
well (especially when usage of them is optional). telephone pests should
be limited
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:29:15PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
it may be an important tool, but that doesn't give you or anyone else
the right to pester people in their own homes. it really does no good
to apologise or even
certainly agree that this usage IS an ethical and
appropriate use of this kind of software.
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to non-genuine seekers of
truth, and to seekers of falsehood (genuine or not) too.
god told me to write this so you better believe it.
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true for those stuck with
stable.
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- many of us
are willing to risk our important systems to it.
rather than seeing that as a problem, we should be working to take
advantage of unstable's stability and quality.
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. It doesn't have to behave like it is
with releases.
well said!
and you make an important point that most people overlook - that the
whole commercial product style release cycle may not be thet best way
for debian releases to be made.
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is to implement the package pool
idea, coupled with reasonably frequent snapshot releases and less
frequent but fully-tested stable releases.
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 09:02:50AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:01:15PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be expending our
resources on woody right now
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:02:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
which i know of that have been
that this is the Debian Project, *not* Ben's Project.
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the release team and allow them to take as much time as they feel is
necessary to produce the 'perfect' release.
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 09:23:42PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 14-Mar-00, 18:58 (CST), Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
actually, it's really sad that you haven't learnt that closing down
'unstable' is a disastrously bad idea. you've been with debian long
enough now to have
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:35:35AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Le Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 06:06:24PM +1100, Craig Sanders écrivait:
and fuck you too! how dare you fucking misrepresent my position and
twist what i said in such a reprehensible manner?
if you don't fucking understand what
-critical bugs.
most are. most of them even in a timely fashion.
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it to bother adopting it in that time).
most of the rest have actually been fixed, but i must have got the BTS
syntax wrong when closing the bugs in the changelog.
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, but that would be a last ditch idea.
It truly would, QT is FAR superior to GTK!!
if you only want to work in C++, and if you don't care that it's
incompatible with the GPL.
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:07:51AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:03:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
i haven't yet decided what to do about vtun. i'll probably get around
to upgrading it to the latest version one day, but i made a mistake
packaging it in the first
recall reading that it was being prototyped on lully...but lully is
currently waiting for some replacement hardware.
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' will be used by those with fewer guinea-pig genes, who want
something up-to-date but with major obvious problems resolved.
'frozen' is for those who just can't wait for stable or who want to help
with final testing.
'stable' is for everyone.
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 11:02:31AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
??? - packages auto moved to here after basic criteria met (e.g.
in unstable for 2 weeks with no bug reports). can't remember
what this stage was to be called.
i feel a need to write some more about
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:41:01PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 15-Mar-00, 01:06 (CST), Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
your argument for want of a better term is obviously so poor that you
have no choice but to misrepresent mine to make your
:brightcyan:black
vim too. fixed with the folling in ~/.vimrc:
set background=dark
hi Commentterm=bold ctermfg=Cyan guifg=Cyan
hi PreProcterm=underline ctermfg=Cyan guifg=#ff80ff
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for
me than just learning the mutt keys.
i've been using mutt for long enough now that pine's key bindings seem
clumsy and awkward.
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(newbies) fom
using mutt, they first must to learn how to change those defaults to
something acceptable.
it's not that bad. if newbies can pick up emacs' horribly contorted key
bindings then mutt's a doddle.
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or making a
symlink.
craig
ps: if you prefer pine, then just use it. there's no need to make every
mail client as bad as pine...some of us like mutt the way it is and
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of what they do and why someone might choose to uncomment
them - a summary of your comments in this thread would be perfect.
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.
blue on black is just a bad idea - too little contrast between fg bg
to be readable.
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the awful secret of debian, the secret
cabal will have to take care of you. wait right where you are. there
will be a knock on the door shortly.
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by the damage
it would cause.
in short, add the sbin directories to your PATH and move on.
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takes a few seconds to do so i don't care much what the default
is.
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..)
I don't know anything about DUL.
that's OK, neither does Joseph. As usual, he's shooting his mouth off
about stuff he couldn't even begin to comprehend.
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5000 for woody - and potato
isn't even out the door!
i'm glad i don't have to wait. unstable is more than good enough for
use on production servers (and has been the entire time i've been using
debian - almost 5 years now)
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if the end-user does make use
of one of the dynamic dns services)
The anti-spam bigots enjoy seeing catch-22's like this.
the anti-DUL bigots love spreading disinformation and bullshit like this
to backup their shaky claims.
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).
BTW, by using stunnel and openssl you can ssl encrypt the entire uucp
session, giving you a secure AND reliable mail service. for a (very
brief) mini-howto of how this can be done with taylor uucp and postfix,
see http://taz.net.au/postfix/uucp/
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:16:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 07:58:22AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
yep. the DUL lists dynamic (dialup) IPs, it doesn't list static IPs.
that's why it's called the MAPS Dialup User List.
Unfortunately that is not correct. Both
the DUL for ages.
most of the recent spam would have been blocked by using MAPS RSS
(relays.mail-abuse.org), though...and not by MAPS DUL.
IMO, we should use both. individually they are quite effective in
blocking spam, but they are even better when used together.
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).
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columns? :)
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 04:41:15PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Craig Sanders wrote:
debian developers should have the option of a uucp account from one
of the debian servers (trivially easy for us to set up).
I think we have been over this in various forms, I don't
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:36:37AM +0200, Nils Jeppe wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Craig Sanders wrote:
yep. the DUL lists dynamic (dialup) IPs, it doesn't list static IPs.
that's why it's called the MAPS Dialup User List.
Well then I have to agree, DUL is bad, because it's near impossible
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:17:55AM +0200, Nils Jeppe wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Craig Sanders wrote:
DUL is very effective in doing that. it prevents spammers from
hiding their activities from their ISP...which ensures that they
will be caught and their account nuked very promptly
, as knowing where to
start.
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future).
Anyway, you didn't answer to my question !
yes i did. my answer was that you were asking the wrong question.
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- like yours - is
irrelevant because it's his mail server, not yours or mine).
on your machines, your policy applies. on his machines, his policy. simple.
your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone
else to listen.
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone
else to listen.
Then this principle must apply universally. I reserve the right to ignore
of it then i could agree with you.
Thanks for clearing this up for me.
you're welcome. you be sure to have a nice day now.
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.
#
# by Craig Sanders, 1998-10-26. This script is hereby placed into the
# public domain.
#
# BUGS: this script has absolutely no error checking. this is not good.
if [ -z $* ] ; then
echo Usage:
echo dpkg-hold package...
exit 1
fi
for i in $@ ; do
echo $i
be. (Ever used dselect on a
9600 serial console? It's fun ;).
twice in one day...this must be the 4th or 5th time i've posted this
script to this list over the years.
---cut here---
#! /bin/bash
# dpkg-hold -- command line tool to flag package(s) as held.
#
# by Craig Sanders, 1998-10-26. This script
too long).
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to a better product and a dedicated user
community. We sincerely hope this will happen also to Jazz++ and
that all users will benifit from this change of license terms. As a
contributing developer, you can really make a difference!
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On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 09:07:42PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:31:03PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:12:40AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote:
I have not found any other free graphical MIDI notator for
linux. Maybe we will have
intend it. take appropriate action when you encounter
any divergence from your desires.
no package manager can read your mind. you're still going to have to do
some of the work yourself.
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, regardless of what it
is. additional permissions are fine, additional restrictions are not.
another significant issue is that the US state of Virginia has adopted
the DMCA, so accepting that jurisdiction means accepting all of the
onerous terms allowed (and enforced) by the DCMA.
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, sounds good. i have no problem at all with that. quite the
opposite, in fact.
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:48:17AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 06:09:31PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
it's simple - if you want a service that's worth having, you
pay whatever it costs. if you don't want that, then pay for a
cheap/crappy service and put up
then it's unlikely that they can get anything
workingthey don't deserve your money.
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for this
condescending part of his otherwise correct article. He should be
wise enough to be careful about the context in which other people
might consider certain statements simply derisive.
some KDE people should apologise to RMS for being over-sensitive
ungracious brats.
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perform similar but
far from identical tasks. for some jobs, mod_perl is better while for
other jobs, speedy is better.
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need more than one version of a library installed, i
can compile it in /usr/local and set LD_PRELOAD appropriately.
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. it may be too much trouble for the completely clueless but
it's fine for anyone who's not afraid of getting their hands dirty.
the new 'testing' distribution (sid) should be even better - nearly
all the benefits of 'unstable' but tested to at least install properly
without error.
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to do with debian.
there's no need to be so pompous and pretentious. you're just another
volunteer, not the Thought Police.
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destination. it
is not there so that mailing lists can screw with it.
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this allegation.
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On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:11:50PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
Mail-Followup-To is the correct header to use.
Mail-Followup-To isn't even a registered header! The closest thing to a
registry that RFC822 implies is in the hands of SRI International
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:15:23PM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote:
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:23:55PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
the new 'testing' distribution (sid) should be even better - nearly
all the benefits of 'unstable' but tested to at least install properly
without error.
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On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:43:05AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote:
[ Craig Sanders writes ]
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:26:25AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote:
And in the case of the debian mailing lists, you should reply to the
list.
some replies should go to the list, and some replies should
calls.
there's really no excuse for running (non-ssl) telnetd any more. good
free ssh clients are available for just about every operating system.
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means that an upgraded GNU tar is no longer a drop-in
replacement for older versions of GNU tar.
both options suck.
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people will be
able to use the precompiled one rather than building their own.
there's good reason to worry about kernel modules now that there are
known hax0r stealth modules which exist purely to hide the fact that a
system has been compromised.
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enough to earn a great deal of respect.
if users don't know that this exists or don't realise how useful it is,
then that can be solved with education.
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-image bugs.
Go ahead, I'll close them as soon as they're filed.
and i'll open them again or file new ones.
what you are doing is broken.
And what does this have to do with our discussion?
it's about as relevant as the rest of your digression on initrd and
modules.
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 03:36:02PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 08:33:43AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
is there such a thing as cross-compilation for the kernel?
Yes - porting to new architectures would be nearly impossible
otherwise.
yep, true...but is it deep
Keith Owens and others have
got their fixed kernel build system into the kernel tree - that won't
happen until 2.5.x i believe.
i've successfully compiled several kernels using -j3, but it's not
something i'd want to rely on at the moment.
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on boot floppies to one.
you're missing the point again.
nobody is disputing that using initrd was a good idea - it's a useful
tool.
what is being disputed is the package bloat of having dozens of
kernel-image packages taking up approx 110MB for EACH kernel version.
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-headers-2.4.2-pentiumiii
kernel-headers-2.4.2-pentiumiii-smp
?
it's only one kernel, one source tree...so where do all these different
header files come from? what's the point of them? what do they provide
that just plain kernel-headers-2.4.2 doesn't provide?
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going to notice the difference
between a 386 kernel and a k7 kernel.
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:39:00AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:42AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
what, exactly, is the difference between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and:
kernel-headers-2.4.2-386
kernel-headers-2.4.2-586
kernel-headers-2.4.2-586tsc
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:37:35AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:15:03AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:24:13PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed
Linux?
that's obvious
netscape whenever i need to visit an
SSL site)
i just learnt to work around it, because i'd be even more annoyed if it
started up a new binary every time.
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
2.4.2 kernel headers packages?
Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config file
the optimization they want, and we compile the kernel for
them.
well said. couldn't agree more.
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bloat has
been the topic of this thread from the beginning.
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. i started the thread, i know what i started.
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:30:31PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
[...]
i think you've done a good job of summarising the issues.
i hope we can resolve this soon.
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appropriate to have a dozen or so kernel-image
packages (and associated kernel-headers packages) per kernel version,
when one(*) will do.
(*) or whatever the minimum number is that will boot on all ia32 boxes.
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there should be dozens of kernel-image and
kernel-headers packages when one is enough to do the job.
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flavour covers a very large chunk of the
i386 userbase.
a 386 kernel covers all of the ia32 userbase.
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,
with the modules_image target.
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:41:22PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:19:12PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
anyone running SMP ought to have enough of a clue to compile their
own kernel.
This is the point where I disagree. I really hate having to build my
own kernel
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