Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:21:20AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > And on _top_ of that, we have all sorts of gratuitous autotools > changes. Let's not forget the random conversion of build systems -- dpatch seems to be a favourite to rewrite perfectly functioning build systems into. > This is roug

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-16 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:51:12AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello Joey, > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Joey Hess wrote: > > Leaving ubuntu out of this, what puzzles me about your message, Raphael, > > is this: > > > > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > If you have some uploads pending, and would like

Re: [ad-hominem construct deleted]

2006-01-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:30:22PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:01, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > So you are saying it's the Debian Developer's job to pull changes from > > ubuntu back? If that is an official statement, then that would be useful > > for a d-d-a mail so w

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:10:54AM +0100, JanC wrote: > On 1/17/06, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about renaming Maintainer to Debian-Maintainer in Ubuntu's binary > > packages, and having a specific Ubuntu-Maintainer? > > This should probably happen in a way that all (or most

Re: klik, loop mounts, and insecurity [was: statement from one of the klik project members]

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:59:23PM +, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote on debian-devel@lists.debian.org: > > [Re-adding Cc to Kurt, as he's mentioned he isn't subscribed] > > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:20:26PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > > > Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > > > The kl

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:08:38PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > I keep hearing this, but I really don't believe it. In Debian, "Maintainer" > > means "An individual or group of people primari

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:41:49PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:13:31AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > By way of example, the Debian maintainer is equipped to answer questions

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:40:11PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 08:31:44AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > All you'll get is the loud minority having a whinge then, no matter what the > > outcome. > > It will certainly beat the hell out of c

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:33:33PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 22 January 2006 03:16, David Weinehall wrote: > > > Since all Ubuntu packages are recompiled against a different set of > > libraries, the bug might not even affect the Debian package, even though > > they share the same sou

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 02:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > There have already been - admittedly sporadic - proposals to rewrite > some key parts of the system, like the init scripts or adduser, in > python. However, if the proponent knows from the beginning the > implementation wouldn't be

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 04:17:13AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 28 janvier 2006 à 17:01 -0600, Peter Samuelson a écrit : > > [Josselin Mouette] > > > Because python and ruby have similar features > > > > Same with perl and python. > > Great. I guess you're going to second the upcomi

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:03:03AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 30 janvier 2006 à 10:20 +1100, Matthew Palmer a écrit : > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 02:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > There have already been - admittedly sporadic - proposals to rewrite &g

Re: buildd and experimental

2006-02-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 02:46:02AM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 01:04:17AM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > > However, the code of conduct seems to > > point out that one should not Cc someone unless they specifically ask > > for it (a guideline that you neglected to follow,

Re: not starting packages at boot

2005-01-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:15:52AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:01:46 -0600, Steve Greenland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 24-Jan-05, 03:45 (CST), Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Last time I looked, invoke-rc.d was not yet a requirement to be used > >> by packa

Re: scripts to download porn in Debian?

2005-01-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:15:29PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > And splitting does indeed > change something. If his kids are not root they cannot install the > "offensive" part. Absolutely false. But thanks for playing. - Matt signature.asc Descrip

Re: shell script sniplets in /usr/bin?

2005-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 05:40:05PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Jochen Voss wrote: > > > [...] > > My question: does anybody have further references for the question > > whether it is ok or maybe even preferable to install non-programs in > > /usr/bin? > > You forgot to quot

Re: Bug#292759: shell script sniplets in /usr/bin?

2005-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 12:28:53AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > "Because I don't wanna play by the rules!" is not a rationale. > > You are mistaken. I want to play by the rules, but the rules say > executabl

Re: my thoughts on the Vancouver Prospectus

2005-03-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:26:44PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 09:07:52AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:57:23AM +0100, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: > > > This is obviously unacceptable. Why would a small number of people be > > > allowed to veto

Re: Documentation is/is not software [was: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels]

2005-03-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 12:32:30PM +, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:06:19AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: > > And I believe that the Vancouver proposal, if implemented as intended up > > to now, will not only affect what Debian really *is*, but in some ways > > will *destroy

Re: If Debian's too radical for you... [was: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels]

2005-03-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:29:35AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2005 03:40, Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the free software fanatics succeed in kicking non-free from being > > supported by Debian assets, such that the FSF documentation were no > > longer avai

Re: If Debian's too radical for you... [was: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels]

2005-03-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 08:49:39AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:13:05 +1100, Matthew Palmer > >"Some would say that this has already happened". Not a fork, per se, but > >Ubuntu's licencing policy (and the general level-headedness of the p

Re: Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 02:18:28PM +, Alex Papadopoulos wrote: > After having read the documentations I understood that I needed to apply as > a new maintainer (with the appropriate identification process, needing an > "advocate" Debian developper) and then find a sponsor that would accept >

Re: Add a project to debian

2005-03-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 02:30:26PM +, Alex Papadopoulos wrote: > Ok thanks for the quick reply. Another question though that I forgot > before, if the sponsor uploads the packages is he automatically the > maintainer of the package (because if this is the case, then it means that > sponsorin

Re: Bug#302283: ITP: sleepshell -- Sleep dummy shell

2005-03-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:19:12PM -0300, Leonardo Serra wrote: > You can use it to create SSH accounts for users who will > only use them for SSH-tunneling; to create an encrypted > tunnel to your servers. Or you can use the -N option to OpenSSH. - Matt signature.asc Description: Digital sign

Re: Intersection of installed packages with orphaned packages

2005-04-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:12:13AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > I am interested in the intersection of packages installed on my > machines with the list of orphaned packages. This is to be sure > a program in use isn't orphaned without me becoming aware of it. > Ideally the program would be run fr

Re: Intersection of installed packages with orphaned packages

2005-04-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:45:19AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Matthew Palmer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-04-08 19:14: > > You'd be wanting wnpp-check, in the devscripts package. Check out rc-check > > while you're at it. Both are cronable. > > ahh ... devscripts. I

Re: duplicate functionality in packages [was: lintian & linda]

2005-04-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:33:24PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: [mjp: I sure didn't write this, but that's how it's been attributed...] > > Whenever someone submits an ITP for the software A, whose functionality > > is already provided in Debian by B, t

Re: upload problems, public key not found

2005-04-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 09:30:39PM +0200, Juergen Strobel wrote: > Almost noone uses kernel-patch-cryptoloop, so I let things slide. AFAIK, > sarge is to use a 2.6.x kernel, so this package is mostly useless. > However, a few people expressed interest recently, and added to the old > bug report #25

Re: Ubuntu and its "appropriation" of Debian maintainers

2005-05-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:38:01PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Hi Matt! > > On Sun, 01 May 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 09:36:57PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > > Actually, I don't think that the packages.*-code is part of the problem. > > > Ubuntu treats th

Re: Ubuntu and its "appropriation" of Debian maintainers

2005-05-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 03:06:10PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 08:46:44PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > Every Debian derivative I have seen does this the same way. There is some > > > inaccuracy in either case, but I think this is the le

Re: Ubuntu and its "appropriation" of Debian maintainers

2005-05-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 12:25:28AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.05.03.0006 +0200]: > > Another option would be to leave the source package maintainer the > > same (to retain proper credit, etc.), but override the binary > > package maintainer

Re: transcode

2005-05-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 04:36:30PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: > PS: of interest to the mplayer thread: motion.c allows mpeg-1 & mpeg-2 > support for non-commercial software. AKA: GPL/LGPL'd implementations are > allowed. No, GPL/LGPL is not non-commercial. - Matt signature.asc Description: Digit

Re: FW: Processing of tla-load-dirs_1.0.21ubuntu1_source.changes

2005-05-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 03:56:35PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Can anyone tell me what this means, and who is trying to upload this to > Debian without even sending me a patch first? What it means: the Ubuntu maintainer for tla-load-dirs (sorry, don't know who) managed to send their package in th

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:47:30AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > The same logic applies to many bugs as well. Would it really be better to > have an open bug report in debbugs, than a patch on people.ubuntu.com? I'd prefer an open bug report in debbugs with the patch included. > I know of no re

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:26:58PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > That said, I was informed today that there's a policy that when bugs are > submitted the patch has to be put on people.ubuntu.com and linked to in > the report rather than being included in the report, which did strike me > as rather str

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 03:56:18PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 07:49:39AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:47:30AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > proposals, but we have very limited developer resources compared to > &

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:07:33AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * John Goerzen > > | If it matters, I'll add my voice to the chorus on that. Anything that > | requires me to go off to the net to fix takes longer to fix and is > | more annoying to deal with. > > Well, some people like just ha

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:23:06AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:21:37PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > This solves your problem fairly well, since the issue then becomes only > > keeping d-i secure and keeping the installed system secure, not keeping > > the system secure w

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:31:33AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > > > - Separate runlevels: 2 for multi, no net, 3 for multi no X, 4 for X, 4=5 > > > > No way. Debian has always avoided mindlessly dictating what runlevels > > must be used for. There's no reason to destroy this feature now. And > >

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > The fact is that Ubuntu has proactively contributed a lot of code back to > Debian, much more than most Debian derivatives have. I see no reason why > claims that Ubuntu is not doing _enough_, or making it easy _enough_ for > Debian

Re: Arch-specific bugs [was: Canonical and Debian]

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:11:05PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 07 juin 2005 à 02:12 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > Oh, you'll also note that the traditional "slow" architectures (mips, > > mipsel, m68k, arm) aren't on this "problems" list. That's because a *lot* > > of effort ha

Re: Is Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis MIA?

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:48:49AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I do not know why you doubt that Luca will come back but as far as I know > him from conferences I'm pretty sure that his main interest were good > quality Debian packages Recalling his packages in the past, I get a different opinion

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:13:16AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem. Years using Linux: 10. Times I've absolutely needed an X-less boot when an XDM was installed: 0. How common was that problem you were trying

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 02:33:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > > > Stop sending mail from dynamically-assigned IP addresses. Deal. > > Gee. There is no reliable way to know whether an IP address is static > or not. SMTP is supposed to work from

Re: Bug#380468: ITP: phpunit2 -- Unit testing suite for PHP5

2006-07-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 02:40:47PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: phpunit2 *cough*330301*cough* - Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 17:31, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:20:26PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > debian/patches/ as separate file, how do I know how to update/remove/etc > > > > There would be no debia

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:31:18PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think people that are NMUing packages rarely care about this. > > When NMU'ing a package, I'd really appreciate to know which changes have > which purpose and which "specificity". In part

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:54:51PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:35, John Goerzen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 06:01:27PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > > How is that not true if one knows a given patch system and does know > > > > > about your VCS and ne

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:36:18PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * John Goerzen [Wed, Aug 02 2006, 01:01:51PM]: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > > to learn how we deal with this all. > > > > > > This is fine, but (again) you forget about your 'ap

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 02:08:00AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 03 August 2006 00:45, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:47:01PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 20:11, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
I've given up on this thread, but I just have to say one thing: On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 11:38:39AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > `Hate patch systems' can easily apply all chunks and start BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Easily. Heh. You should be a comedian. - Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 01:52:09PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Matthew Palmer may or may not have written... > > > I've given up on this thread, but I just have to say one thing: > > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 11:38:39AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: >

Re: Centralized darcs

2006-08-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 08:14:43PM +, David Nusinow wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 11:12:15AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > What I need as someone working on a package for which I'm not the > > maintainer is this: > > > > dpkg-source -x must give me something I can immediately edit and diff

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now supports ~ in version numbers]

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 01:12:59AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > I have to admit that when choosing 0.09+0.1 as version number I didn't > check with dpkg --compare-versions because then I would have discovered > that "dpkg --compare-versions '0.09' '=' '0.9'" yields true, which I > think is rather

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now supports ~ in version numbers]

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 07:47:36PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 01:29:40AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > * Michael Biebl [Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:12:59 +0200]: > > > > > that "dpkg --compare-versions '0.09' '=' '0.9'" yields true, which I > > > think is rather odd, beca

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now supports ~ in version numbers]

2006-08-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:47:14PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 10:42:53AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > I'd imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a mathematician who knows what to > > do with a number that reads 0.0.9, eit

Re: Proper way of closing *old* bugs

2006-04-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:55:05PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > Cyril Bouthors wrote: > > On 3 Apr 2006, Adam Majer wrote: > > > > > >> But the correct method of closing bugs is to send a message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the explanation of the fix and not in > >> the changelog. Well, at lea

Re: per-architecture Provides field

2006-04-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:13:57AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:04 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Why not simply Provide: sunwlxsl all of the > > time, doesn't it provide sunwlxsl on other arches? > > But how? sunwlxsl is something which is only present in > OpenSolaris-b

Re: Creation of custom "configured" packages?

2006-05-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 09:49:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > in case I am in the wrong list, I beg you pardon, but I asked this > already in debian-user without success. Custom *packages* is probably more on-topic for debian-mentors, but I don't think that custom packages are the right sol

Re: Creation of custom

2006-05-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:47:48AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Am 15.05.2006 um 10:32 Uhr haben Sie geschrieben: > > CFEngine is in Debian, but has some real nasty frustrations. Puppet > > isn't in Debian, but Jamie is working hard on the packages and I've got > > some provisional ones built

Re: [Fwd: Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers]

2006-05-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:30:59PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 20 mai 2006 à 19:43 -0700, Erast Benson a écrit : > > Nexenta is absolutely rock stable OS (thanks to legendary Solaris > > history) > > Solaris history is indeed legendary, but not for its stability. Well, when you con

Re: SQL Ledger and PostgreSQL: ID fault on create database

2006-06-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:12:32PM +0100, Chris Forsey wrote: > Not sure if this is the right list, but unsure where to post as I need > some guys with good debian experience [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], for starters. This list is for development of Debian itself. - M

Re: RFC: transitioning towards using BTS versioning for NMUs (and experimental)

2006-06-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 12:44:40PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >[Don suggested to use the tags _and_ the versioning information in a > >transitional period; I'm not 100% sure what this buys us, except that I'm > >not sure

Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-07-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 06:50:07PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 06:17:20PM -0400, Jason Spiro wrote: > [snip] > > the moment you use openwatcom to compile any work-related piece > > of software (thu

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-04 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 07:34:02AM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > > I am building a package in which one of the binary has > > to have the setuid and setgid bits set. I wonder which > > one of the following two is

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 09:36:37AM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:37:52PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > > > I am building a package in which one of the binary has > > to have the setuid and setgid bits set. I wonder which > > one of the following two is the more ap

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:13:30AM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > Le jeudi 06 juillet 2006 à 07:36 +1000, Matthew Palmer a écrit : > [about suid bits] > > My personal preference would be for the maintainer to just take a stand, set > > it or not, and let people who actually kn

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:45:21PM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:57:56PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:25:37 +1300 Nick Phillips wrote: > > > > > The fact that we have conveniently > > > ignored this problem when dealing with the GPL and BSD lic

Re: PHP application packaging policy/best practice?

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:20:03PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > as a php web app packager, I should say that the policy is a real mess, > since there is no policy (and I really hope to become a DD soon, in > order to work on one with other interested people). There's no need to be wearing you

Re: PHP application packaging policy/best practice?

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:04:55PM +0100, Kees Leune wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:20:03 +0100, Pierre Habouzit > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO, web apps should be installed in /usr/share/*appname*/ > > Agree; it seems that most of the responses boil down to that. The next > question then

Re: PHP application packaging policy/best practice?

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
[No Cc needed, as per list policy] On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:47:42PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > it's _quite_ true that you don't need to play with include_path. > > your library has to know it's installed > > into /usr/share/php/ and either : > > * use some __FILE__ magic in its requires/

Re: Manpages licensed under GFDL without the license text included

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 03:14:47PM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:00:02PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > Right. And when the .deb gets distributed on its own? > > > > Then whoever does the distributing should ensure that they compl

Re: PHP application packaging policy/best practice?

2005-01-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:13:05AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le Mer 12 Janvier 2005 01:31, Matthew Palmer a ?crit : > > [No Cc needed, as per list policy] > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:47:42PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > it's _quite_

Re: PHP application packaging policy/best practice?

2005-01-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
[No Cc please, as per list policy] On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:16:43AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le Mer 12 Janvier 2005 01:31, Matthew Palmer a ?crit : > > So you patch libfile2.php to require_once 'mylib/libfile1.php' > > instead of just 'libfile1.php'. &g

Re: Do all frontends use the dpkg binary?

2005-01-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 05:21:02AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > Also, is there a way to avoid a dpkg upgrade overwriting /usr/bin/dpkg > and (IIRC) divert /usr/bin/dpkg -> /usr/bin/dpkg.real, so that I dont > have to remember to redo this step? man dpkg-divert It rocks. Hard. - Matt signature.a

Re: Trying to come back...

2005-01-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 02:40:43PM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: > I've checked debian-keyring's changelog and I seem to have been marked > as "emeritus": > > ~ Emeritus \E*mer"i*tus\, n.; pl. {Emeriti}. [L.] > ~ A veteran who has honorably completed his service. > > I certainly appreciat

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 07:59:59PM -0500, SR, ESC wrote: > Le lun 2005-01-24 a 19:26:34 -0500, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a dit: > > > > I do not believe that being thick-skinned enough to cope with people who > > are very agressive or insulting should be a requirement for involvement >

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
r government (and, since you live in a "democracy" it truly is *your* government - remember, "of the people, by the people, and for the people", or some such) as overly friendly, I don't quite see the problem. -- --- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
if they take delibrate action to hurt _any_ > country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the consequences. Boycott us back. Considering the US government screws .au at every opportunity, I doubt we'd even notice. -- --- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: LDAP adduser/deluser

2003-05-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
folks to merge these scripts It's an adduser thing, best to keep it there. There's no need for totally separate adduser and adduser-ldap programs - the two co-exist quite nicely. -- ------- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: LDAP adduser/deluser

2003-05-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Zed Pobre wrote: > > Could you elaborate on what ways yours works better than the original > > adduser? I'm sure Roland would love to hear about functionality > > improvements, and I'd certainly be keen for any improvements to the > > LDAP-specific code... > > My version

Re: LDAP adduser/deluser

2003-05-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Zed Pobre wrote: > > > > Could you elaborate on what ways yours works better than the original > > > > adduser? I'm sure Roland would love to hear about functionality > > > > improvements, and I'd certainly be keen for any improvements to the > > > > LDAP-specific code... > >

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
ll a future version of Debian, but you should be able to get the old xpm4.7 and it's dependencies from a Woody CD for some years to come. And pester wordperfect^WCorel to use libraries from the current millenium. -- --- #

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
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Re: maildirmake

2003-06-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
o have the script available. Could you elaborate on your usage of maildirmake in this courier-less situation? [1] Arguments as to whether Debian should do this or not should be directed to /dev/null. > > Thanks Andreas > > -- ----------

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, David B Harris wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:46:48 +1000 (EST) > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Now I'm wondering about it even more. IMHO `maildirmake' is _v

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
lly-debian-specific" utils in there already, although my aesthetic antennae are twitching... -- ----------- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
"fixed" in that version of the package. It implies that versions less than the one in which the changelog entry appear have the bug - which they do not. -- ------- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Windows macro virus

2003-06-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
tterly useless, and merely annoying. -- ----------- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Bug#198957: ITP: email -- Send email from command line, either via MTA or SMTP, with optional encryption

2003-06-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
e how the license shoudl be changed to be suitable for the non-free > section? I think the only thing needed would be to get an OK for Debian to distribute the program, in modified form. That'd get it into non-free. -- -------

Re: Windows macro virus

2003-07-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:07:25PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > That's odd, because debian-devel@lists.debian.org is a mailing list run on a > > Debian GNU/Linux machine, which is immune to windows macro virii. > > Yo

Re: Bug#199612: ITP: minido -- A simple, generic, multi-user, database free todo list manager / tracking system written in GTK2

2003-07-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
truments is a trademark. They may not like you using their name in apparent support for another product... -- ----------- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-07-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
ncee who routes her packets through it). But yes, there's probably more people utilising Debian boxes than there are Debian boxes, overall, I agree. -- ------- #include Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: proposal: per-user temporary directories on by default?

2003-07-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:27:04PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 08:43:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > On 24-Jul-03, 17:56 (CDT), "Dwayne C. Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Systems with large numbers of users (and normally use, for exampl

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:10:01AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > debconf (important) depends on liblocale-gettext-perl (standard). > Presumably liblocale-gettext-perl should become important. > Or debconf could be replaced in 'important' with cdebconf, of course. Ouch... > db2: > This

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 02:45:56AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >db2: > > This is pretty old... who still uses it, anyway? More specifically, > > does anyone use libdb2++, and if so, are they only things which > > aren't supposed to be transitioned? > > OK, this is an odd list: > Package

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 11:39:38AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 07:10:06PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > And, quite honestly, animals should probably disappear. When all of a > > maintainer's packages were NMU'd into stable, and they haven

Re: hey

2003-07-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
[It might also be a good idea to wrap your postings] On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > It might be a good idea to reject MIME messages in -devel? Do we need > attachments? (patchs can be inserted in the message body) GPG/MIME is nice. And attached patches make thing

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 10:08:17AM +0200, Micha? Politowski wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:30:11 +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > > > http://www.steve.org.uk/cgi-bin/debian/index.cgi > > > > If you're just scanning for binaries wit

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