* [Jeff Bailey]
> Hmm - I wish there was some easy way of knowing when to do this or not -
There is. It's called the Mail-Followup-To header, and it's supported
by an ever increasing number of MUAs (including newer Mutt and Gnus).
For a short intro/rant by the ever cuddly DJB:
http://cr.yp.to/
* [Thomas Bushnell, BSG]
> Ssh should provide a non-cryptographically secure mode (such as using
> hashes of the low time bits, for example) for use on systems without a
> real random bit source.
I believe it does even better, and provides a mode where it hashes the
output of "ps aux" and suchli
* [Tomáš Kašpárek]
> - the system writes that root filesystem is mounted ReadOnly
I think it's supposed to be mounted read/write. Was it cleanly
unmounted the last time?
(you could try fsck'ing it from GNU/Linux to make sure)
A way to make the computer _not_ reboot automatically would help, b
* [Tomáš Kašpárek]
> i'm trying to install HURD too and I could not find any way how to get
> it up and running. Where should I search for up-to-date installation
> manual and tarballs/images/.deps
- Go to http://hurd.gnu.org >
- Select "Installation" from the left hand side menu.
- Find the lin
* [Jeff Bailey]
> On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 05:51:30PM +0200, Oystein Viggen wrote:
>
>> > 2) Buildd is now running, and reports are appearing at
>> > http://buildd.debian.org/
>
>> Does this mean that hurd-i386 will be appearing on the stats/ page
>> at the
* [Robert Millan]
> Netcraft titles the section as "Operating System and Web Server for foo",
> asking them to output "the Hurd" implies that this is the correct name
> for a Hurd-based GNU OS. IMHO, this would generate confusion onto a lot
> of new people that don't know the details.
IMO, from
* [Jeff Bailey]
> One thing that I've wanted to do for some time is rewrite pfinet (and
> I've been slugging my way through various parts of the code to learn
> the Best Way to do that for a year or so now).
This would be great. (Even if it would ruin Marcus' "getting ipchains
for free" hack ;
* [Christian Mertes]
> I remember the netcraft guys agreed to think about adding the
> Hurd to their list of OS cores when there would be a webserver
> running on it. Perhaps you want to contact them and tell them
> that this happened?
I contacted netcraft some months ago about this. The messag
* [Jeff Bailey]
> What that means for us is that there are 1200 packages (out of about
> 6000) or so that haven't yet been seen. My guess is that we'll chew
> through this in the next couple of weeks. At that point, I'll begin
> my second pass to try and build packages that failed just because
* [Jeff Bailey]
> 2) Buildd is now running, and reports are appearing at
> http://buildd.debian.org/
Does this mean that hurd-i386 will be appearing on the stats/ page at
the same URL in a while, too? (Gotta love them stats ;)
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* [Thomas Bushnell, BSG]
> This doesn't bother me, as long as C-c works. Can you verify that it
> does?
C-c makes cat go away. settrans -g also works well for removing the
passive translator afterwards.
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* [Lars Weber]
> But if using `/lib/hurd to store translators for example would make it
> impossible (or at least difficult) to translate `/lib' with something like
> shadowfs/unionfs etc. then I thought this would be a reason that maybe
> everyone could accept...
That's a good point. Technical
* [Marcus Brinkmann]
> On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 04:59:37PM +0200, Lars Weber wrote:
>> Is this also true for passive translators? Do they also not store the
>> path to the translator executable (as I've thought until now) but a direct
>> reference to the file instead? If so, what would happen if
* [Jeroen Dekkers]
> It would have been better if you have a port 80 cabability and could
> give that to apache. Then apache could be running without uids.
This is a sound idea, but for Linux, you will have to give it the
"listen on ports under 1024" capability (CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE), and run
a
Hi
As noted by Michael Krueger and others, there is currently no vim
package for the hurd in the debian tree. The current vim package
depends on ruby, which has compilation problems on the Hurd (MAXPATHLEN
and something called NOFILE in io.c).
Now, I don't care much for ruby, and I don't need th
* [Marcus Brinkmann]
> I am currently working through build depends of dejagnu (which is a
> build dependency of gdb, a non-critical one, but I want to do it
> proper). This is a lot of work, and includes gimp! (indirectly).
> Anyway, gnome-libs are uploaded, for example, which is a big enabler.
* [Jeff Bailey]
> What this means for you is that when packages start to reappear, it's
> probably best to wipe out your system and re-install. No effort has
> been made to make this an easy transition.
Has anyone made a libio tarball that can be used for easy installation?
If not, what is the
* [Marcus Brinkmann]
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:29:45PM +0100, Oystein Viggen wrote:
>> Not that I'm aware of. The standard supports only one network
>> interface,
>
> The standard what? There have been people using two network interface
> cards with one or two
* [Richard Watson]
> gateway/firewall to my home network. The box is a 466Mhz Celeron
> currently running Debian GNU/Linux and doing NAT for the network. So
> my question - can the Hurd do simple firewalling/gateway duties?
Not that I'm aware of. The standard supports only one network
interfa
* [Bill Bland]
> bit further. It switches to graphical mode, but then drops back into text
> mode. The error log is at the end of this email. Clearly the problem is
> that /dev/psaux doesn't exist. Unfortunately MAKEDEV doesn't know how to
> make it and neither do I!
Neal H Walfield's instal
* [Philip Charles]
> So if
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/X11R6/lib
> is inserted towards the beginning of gui.sh this would be a suitable work
> round until there is a proper fix.
Would it be workable to have a script that makes a lot of symlinks in
/lib for the libraries in /X11R6/lib, and maybe e
* [Emmanuel DUMAS]
> So, for you, what is Hurd ?
As The GNU Hurd is a GNU project, I'd think you would use the GNU
definition of an operating system when referring to it in an official
Hurd development document. Highlights follow:
"The GNU Hurd is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix ker
* [Jeff Bailey]
> You may get more responses if you hint as to what the particular RFC
> refers to. I've given up trying to keep track of which one specifics
> what.
Hinting would spoil the fun, but check this page out:
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ >
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* ["B. Douglas Hilton"]
> I'm trying OSKit 2202 and oskit-mach
> v 1.2.90 which I got from CVS some time
> ago. I tried to update it but the server
> seems to have gone away.
Is there a specific reason why you are using OSKit 2202? I believe
the newest snapshot is 20010214.
As for oski
* [Derek L Davies]
> It worked for me to apt-get install them directly from the hurd.
Yes, but doing this without network access can be quite hard.
(hint: read the original posting :)
Tobin: I believe somebody once posted an apt config for downloading
packages in Linux and doing the rest under
* [Anders Jackson]
> Or introduce a new bug in the stack for nmap to recognise! :-)
Netcraft don't nmap the webservers, though. They only analyze the
packets they receive from a GET /, or more likely HEAD /.
I got some suggestions from Richard Wendland at netcraft. If you want
to do somethin
Hi
Richard Wendland of netcraft said the following about recognizing the
Hurd/pfinet. Most of it is above my head, so I send it to the list in
case someone who understands more of it wants to give it a shot.
I think pfinet recognized as "unknown" would be a step up from being
listed as "Linux".
* [Marcus Brinkmann]
> Yes, version 2.2.12. We don't ever see bogus things in the upper layer, so
> I guess it might be difficult to tell the difference. Maybe there are some
> subtle differences in the scheduling/timing of requests, but that might be
> very hard to figure out if it exists even
* [Jeff Bailey]
> I've got an autobuilder here that is turned off while we prepare to do
> an ABI change.
Does this also mean that pthreads support is close to ready?
Oystein
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* [Sean Neakums]
> AFAIR, they use the "Server:" header in the HTTP response to determine
> the OS of the server, rather than fingerprinting the TCP/IP stack.
> But I could be wrong.
They use something they call "passive tcp fingerprinting". I don't know
exactly what that implies. The Server h
Hi
Does anybody have or know of a web server running the GNU Hurd with a
direct connection to the internet? The reason I'm asking is that if I
can provide the address of such a server, the netcraft guys might add
the Hurd to their OS detection.
I think that would be cool :)
Oystein
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* ["hriedel"]
> Thanks for your advice, but unfortunately I'm just
> using that damn Outlook thing under Win2k/XP.
> I just have to work such a lot unter Win, that I haven't
> booted even a Linux/UNIX-System lately. And too, I can't
> afford a second machine right now. So I have to stick
> on Win
* [arun v]
> Actually, the idea what we have is :
>
> hurd# settrans /tmp/PASSWD
> ~/work/hurd/my-tr-translator --file /etc/passwd --expr
> "a-z A-Z"
If I'm not much mistaken a "normal" tr command is available in /bin, so
I'm thinking it would perhaps be more useful to create a more generic
tra
* [Adam Majer]
> Anyone have the sysvinit package that will work under Hurd? The bug is
> open for that package for years now. I can't even install gcc or g++ now
Debian GNU/Hurd does not currently use the sysvinit package. To get
around dependency problems you can fetch a dummy package from:
* [Neal H Walfield]
> I could not find a concise elegant way to state the general case.
> Suggestions welcome.
How about simply pointing people to the subscription web pages? That
way, we won't get "subscribe" mails sent to the lists in any case.
Here is my feeble attempt at doing both:
,
* [Neal H Walfield]
> I have updated http://web.walfield.org/papers/hurd-welcome, could you
> please let me know if this is still ambiguous, thanks.
Firstly, you won't get subscribed to debian-hurd by sending any amount
of email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;)
To me, it also looks like a bit of overki
* [Bob Ham]
> On Sun, 2001-11-04 at 04:28, Neal H Walfield wrote:
>
> > Mailing Lists:
> >
> > Subscribe in the usual fashion.
>
> What is the "usual" fashion?
Clicking randomly around on the web pages until you find the mailman
interface page or the majordomo instructions?
Providing a link
* [Philip Charles]
> More packages are being pushed onto the second CD which means that my
> crude priority scheme is breaking down. I am now concentrating on
> identifying groups of packages for specific tasks and using using these to
> supplement the present ordering system. I have three such
* [James Morrison]
> James Morrison, 20, It's my birthday today ;)
> Kingston, Ontario, I will be a debian developers someday.
Øystein Viggen, 22, Trondheim, Norway.
Currently not very active with hurd work due to non-military service.
Will hopefully improve on this over time.
* [Jordi Mallach]
> Anything I can do to help debug this?
I'm guessing disk space problems. (df .)
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* [Robert Bihlmeyer]
> (a) Wait for the successor of rpath, and use that
> (b) Declare that /X11R6 is old cruft, and "ln -s / /X11R6"
> (c) Declare that /X11R6 is old cruft, and stop using it for good
Although not at all ideal, wouldn't it also be possible to:
(d) Hardcode /X11R6/lib into ld.so
Quoth Paul Emsley:
> Is this true even after Marcus updates?
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd-0106/msg00133.html
Yep. I can reliably loose network connectivity to my hurd by telnetting
in to the hurd box, ssh'ing to another box and then logging out of ssh.
This is with Rob
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>It would be convenient for me to be able to display X
> applications from my GNU/Linux box on my GNU/Hurd X
> server. However, I am not even able to get xclock working
> remotely.
>
> Has anyone has success with this?
Normally, I would u
Quoth Matthew Vernon:
> I think you'd better wait for the new perl packages to be available. I
> don't think this will be more than a few days.
For those who will settle for unofficial packcages, I have compiled
perl5.6_5.6.1-5 and uploaded the packages to:
http://www.tihlde.org/~oysteivi/hurd/>
Hi, Jeff.
Could you add these packages to the autobuilder?
lesstif1-1
libmng
libio-pty-perl
vile
They all compile flawlessly, although it has been a few weeks since I
built the two first ones.
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Quoth Philip Charles:
> So I can use the new exim when it gets into the main archive?
If you're impatient like me, you can even grab it from incoming ;)
The dependencies are there, and it works for me when sending mail both
locally and over the network. I was not able to send mail to the box
Quoth Oystein Viggen:
> Quoth Jeff Bailey:
>
> > I have uploaded exim.
>
> It does not seem to me that it is proper for the hurd package of exim to
> depend on netbase? The hurd deb package in incoming does.
Ah. My bad.
Inetutils provides netbase, so there is no p
Quoth Jeff Bailey:
> I have uploaded exim.
It does not seem to me that it is proper for the hurd package of exim to
depend on netbase? The hurd deb package in incoming does.
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Quoth Glenn Alexander:
> Where do I go to get HURD deb packages. I'm on a PPP line so apt-get from
> HURD is not an option nor is a CD ISO. I can't find anything that looks
> remotely useful on Debian ftp. Am I looking in the wrong places?
Did you try /debian/pool/main/h/hurd/ on your favourit
Quoth Niels Möller:
> I'm thinking of anonymous ftp service only. In my book, changing the
> effective uid but keeping a root real uid is *NOT* to "drop
> privileges".
More like "obscuring access to privileges", right.
> I'm comparing with hacks like having a www-server start with root
> privi
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> I thought about first opening a socket and bind to it, then drop uids.
> That's not so good as running without any ids in the first place, but
> better than keeping those uids around, isn't it?
If you're talking about sockets as in TCP/IP networking, this is good
enough
(This ended up horribly long.. I'm sorry :)
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Anyway, the code is there, but processes started at boot time are not in
> different login groups, I think. You would want them to be there, though.
> In fact, I think you would loose all security at the login shell if there
Quoth Neal H Walfield:
> > A nice project would be looking into completely removing the 1GB
> > limit on filesystems/stores (perhaps for the 1wk part). Also looking
> > at ways to improve the speed of filesystem access for the hurd,
> > especially for ext2, would be great.
>
> I think that this
Quoth Jeff Bailey:
> It seems that a glibc package build is larger than 918 megs. =(
Would it be possible to do this the "old fashioned" unix way, and just
mount (, translate or whatever we call it) another filesystem on
./debian/ or somewhere else in the build directory? I figure if you
were
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Will the following scenario work?
>
> glibc is changed, so that "setuid(-1)" means: Drop all (effective?) user ids.
> Change the nobody entry in the passwd file so that it lists -1 as uid.
>
> This will make Unix programs which conventionally switch to user nobody very
Quoth Thomas A Langan:
> I am a student planning on starting a masters thesis project in the near
> future and I'm looking for both some information and some advice.
A nice project would be looking into completely removing the 1GB
limit on filesystems/stores (perhaps for the 1wk part). Also loo
Quoth Niels Möller:
> Well, it could refuse to create any files by default.
This is the boring solution, but perhaps as good as any.
> And then have some mechanism for making exceptions to this rule. An
> example of such a mechanism (which I don't know if it makes sense): If
> the directory is
Quoth Niels Möller:
> Now, you start the ftpd with something like
>
> rmauth /real/ftpd
> There may be some better way to create and inherit the port than to
> bind it to the stdin fd.
Would opening the port in the beginning of main() before doing something
like rmauth(getpid()) count as a
Quoth Niels Möller:
> But I don't see any big advantage, compared to simply running the
> process in question with userid foo, so I agree that it seems a little
> pointless.
The biggest difference is perhaps that anybody could rmauth a process on
their own and effectiively perform a local DoS on
Quoth Niels Möller:
> I don't know. I would expect the code to create a socket and bind it
> to port 20 to be isolated to one or two functions, but I haven't read
> nor written any real ftp daemon.
That would be correct. But in the general ftp daemon, you _might_ also
need to be able to setuid(
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Let's not give up so fast ;) A special translator could provide a
> filesystem that provides seperate name spaces for different login groups.
> I think it requires a new interface in proc to reliably compare login groups
> of processes (the string is not reliable!).
Th
Quoth Robert Bihlmeyer:
> I claim ignorance in how bind works. But I don't see a problem with it
> opening zone cache files r/w, and keeping them open until termination.
>
> Opening is done while still owning privileges (maybe root), so on the
> next start it is still possible to r/w.
Making bi
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> All users of the login shell are in login groups named "login", but they are
> all distinct to proc.
Pointers to different strings containing "login", then?
> > Unless you pre-open this directory, how can you reliably make sure that
> > a program/daemon running as no-u
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Right. You have to decide if you want isolation or control.
Actually, I want both to the biggest possible degree ;)
> A few mails ago, you wondered if one nouser could gain control over
> other nousers, and the answer is if and only if they are in the same
> login g
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> It is probably useful to add here that the server responsible for that is
> the password server, which hands out auth handles with uids in exchange for
> the password. This server runs as root and sits on /servers/password.
Hmm. Now this _is_ nice.
I figure this is t
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> From the CVS logs, it seems to be fixed in dpkg 1.9.6. Jeff, dpkg can be
> added to the autobuilder, but after upgrading, don't forget to repatch your
> dpkg-shlibdeps.
Is there any chance that we might get a beautified version of this patch
into the dpkg package prope
Quoth Jérôme Magnin:
> finally openssh compiled ok, but the problem is that it lacks a random
> number generator to create the seeds. I read that I could use prngd but
> I had troubles as well.
>
> I think I read something on this topic once on the mailing list, but I
> can find it anylonger.
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> In general, we will have to implement special Hurd support in programs
> like tar, with options that make it possible to control how translators
> should be treated.
I figure options like the -l (--one-file-system) for tar or -x for du
won't work unmodified for translat
Quoth Joost van Baal:
> use something like PRUNEPATHS="/not/thisone/please" in /etc/updatedb.conf
Won't work in the general case, as users can set up their own
translators basically wherever they want. (they can, can't they?)
It helps for now, though.
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Quoth "Aneesh Kumar K.V":
> Hi ,
> But I need to do ftp to some other box which require password . How do
> I do that?
According to the last paragraph in ftpfs --help, you should be able to
use a notation like user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/
Note that this does not give very good protection for your
Hi
Will updatedb include ftpfs translators? Can it be trivially made to
exclude them?
I don't think 100 users trying to index ftp.debian.org or similar would
really be a good idea...
Oystein
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Quoth "Aneesh Kumar K.V":
> Can anybody help me to setup a ftp translator. Just I need to find the
> usage. I am not able to locate any manual
>
> ftpfs --help. Doesn't look useful
For maximum coolness, I suggest you combine the ftp translator with the
hostmuxer:
settrans -c /ftp /hurd/ho
Quoth James Morrison:
> Could proftpd be added to the turtle. I fixed compilation problems
> with 1.2.2rc2 from the use of MAXPATHLEN, so hopefully future
> versions
> will compile and run on the hurd.
The debian package has build-depends on libmysqlclient-dev,
postgresql-dev, and libldap2-
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> From the turtle I found lot of packages broken. So I thought of giving
> a try on my hurd box. But the source code I get from gnu is older than
> the version that were broken. Is there any site where I can find the
> source code of the packages with the correct vers
Quoth "B. Douglas Hilton":
> I'm pretty sure that the US cryptography thing is a dead duck. Since the
> US govt. accepted Rjindale as the AES standard the laws have changed and
> high cryptography no longer has US export restrictions.
Wasn't there a crypto in main discussion going on on some oth
Quoth Jeff Bailey:
> Yes please. When I first started running the Turtle's Marcus was
> handing me lists of programs to build based on priority / known
> workingness / etc. Now that those are all in there, it would be
> useful to have a way of choosing which packages came next.
>
> So far I've
Quoth Oystein Viggen:
> Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
>
> > First we should fix xutils. But I don't plan a new tar file too soon
> > anyway. Thanks for testing this.
>
> I'll see what I can do wrt. xutils. *Goes to grab more coffee*
I'll have to report fai
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Do you want to work out a patch for the xutils package and submit it to
> Branden to do something similar?
The X source package is a huge scary beast, but I'll look into it.
> That's good! And you don't need to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable, right?
Right.
> suid
Hi
OK, now it's done. The only filename clash I had was rstartd, which
lives in /usr/X11R6/bin but has a symlink in /usr/bin. Both are in
package xutils, so I just removed the symlink, hoping for the best.
Simple x-applications (xcalc) still work, and compiling seems not to
have worsened (X inc
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Right. Same for /usr/X11R6/man and /usr/X11R6/include. It should be easy.
is actually a bit of a different reason. There would
be no problem having .h files with the same names here, just like
and .
Anyway I think we can conclude that all _should_ be fine and dandy,
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Nono, that would be bad indeed. Luckily, you had a type above. The symlink
> is actually:
>
> ulysses:~# ls -l /usr/lib/X11
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 16 Feb 28 19:50 /usr/lib/X11 ->
> ../X11R6/lib/X11/
>
> So instead a symlink, we now have the real st
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> If you have enough room, just copy your whole Hurd partition, or whatever
> you want to be in the filesystem, into an ext2fs filesystem image/partition,
> and run a sub-Hurd:
OK. The box has a 6GB disk, which after a small rescue-linux and one
hurd partition has a lot
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> X11R6 shouldn't exist even on Linux, if you ask me. I am all for it.
Yes, perhaps an even better idea would be to replace /X11R6 with a
symlink to ".". I this time, I took the safe route replacing only
/X11R6/lib with a symlink to ../lib.
Is there a way that I could
Hi
Would it be true to the spirit of hurd and the /usr -> . symlink to have
/X11R6/lib be a symlink to ../lib? That way, most libraries would end
up in /lib, which should sort out the problems people have been seing
with setuid applications like xterm for which LD_LIBRARY_PATH won't, and
indeed s
Hi, Jeff!
If you don't already have these packages in one of your turtles, would
you consider adding them? They all compiled and installed without
problems on my hurd:
pmake
ash
grep-dctrl
x2x
rsync
blast
Oystein
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Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> Check your own drives with "storeinfo /dev/hd0" etc, and if you see a
> discrepancy, try to debug it in GNU Mach. I suspect there is some
> bit-lossing conversion from blocks to bytes and back to blocks or so.
It seems allright to me on my 6GB disk. At least the result
Hi
I just discovered the following from the gnumach and hurd changelogs:
gnumach (1:1.2-9) unstable; urgency=low
* Update to CVS 20010111, which contains a new interface for
block devices with a large number of blocks.
hurd (20010111) unstable; urgency=low
* New snapshot from CVS, contain
Quoth Philip Charles:
> FYI, 570 of the 2440 packages in the Hurd sub-archive are excluded by
> debian-cd. This is almost certainly done because of dependency problems.
> This happened without any intervention on my part through exclusion
> lists etc. Don't ask me to identify them at this stage
Quoth Marcus Brinkmann:
> The Hurds ldconfig is just a link to /bin/true, to make Debian postinst
> scripts happy. I don't know why ldconfig is needed on Linux, it is not
> required on the Hurd, as all packages are required to have appropriate
> symlinks.
At least, it's nice for people who want
Stefan Karrmann wrote:
> On Unix root can break out of the chrooted environment by the following:
>
> # mknod hda1 b 3 1; # assume hda1 is your root filesystem
> # mkdir mnt
> # mount -n hda1 mnt
> # chroot mnt
> # echo "I'm now in the original root directory!"
This is assuming you are allowed
Jeff Bailey wrote:
> If you have any other packages that compile cleanly, let me know. ;)
I think openssl compiled without problems the last time I tried. If you
are non-US, building some non-US packages would be nice ;)
Oystein
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"Frederico S. Muñoz" wrote:
> BTW, any info on how to rm the dirs that filed? After reboot they are
> all gone, but in the same session they stay there ad eternum,
> appearing and giving errors at every ls. I have tried rm, rm -f,
> rmdir, a different settrans, kill and kill -9 to the translator
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> Note that an IP stack diagnosis will show the Hurd system as a Linux 2.2
> system.
Nmap 2.54BETA7 (the one in linux/unstable) says the following:
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=trivial time dependency
Difficulty=4 (Trivial joke)
I figure this m
"Frederico S. Muñoz" wrote:
> Of course, with my fixes to ftpfs, I just do the following:
>
> settrans -c /ftp /hurd/hostmux /hurd/ftpfs /
>
> and then:
>
> cd /ftp/ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-hurd-i386
>
> and then I can directly dpkg -i without needing to worry further.
Niels Möller wrote:
> The only potential problem I'm aware of is the randomness
> initialization; recent versions of lsh try to cope without
> /dev/urandom by executing some random commands (vmstat, netstat, ps,
> etc with various flags), and seed a prng (currently based on arcfour)
> from the ou
Niels Möller wrote:
> Sorry for my ignorance, I suspect xterm has been discussed many times
> before, on the debian lists and other places. So if there are other
> reasons for it being setuid/setgid, please enlighten me.
As far as I know, xterm is setgid utmp because it wants to update
/var/run/
Hi
I've been trying to get openssh up and running on my hurd box.
Using prngd by Lutz Jaenicke as a random source, I have managed to get
openssh both compiled and running to some extent. (I removed the
gnome-askpass stuff). The client works flawlessly, but the server is a
bit more strange.
Cal
Niels Möller wrote:
> Execution of setuid or setgid binaries ignores LD_LIBRARY_PATH (and a
> bunch of other environment variables). Honoring the value of LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> would open huge security holes.
Isn't it these kinds of things we should have /etc/ld.so.conf for?
(Now why don't we have t
Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> You have to use the "screen" program.
>
> Ctrl-a c
> creates screens
>
> Ctrl-a n
> switches screens
Ctrl-a a
sends Ctrl-a to the process running in the screen. (Took me a
frustrated minute to figure that one out :)
Oystein
--
ssh -c rot13 otherhost
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> The better concept will be to shadow filesystems in one tree, similar to
> unionfs on BSD.
Is this implemented in the hurd yet?
> No, it is just fine. You can try "settrans -c /ftp /hurd/hostmux /hurd/ftpfs"
> for some extra coolness. (And access /ftp/sunsite.uio.no e
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