Yes. But if you want to get rid of _any_ spam, shut down your MTA.
Which will yield about the same effect than using Spamcop as a German
ISP.
Have you sent an email to the administrators of spamcop informing them of
the
sizes of the ISPs in question?^
Why should I? After first noticing GMX
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On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 08:39:02PM +1000,
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perl is the ideal tool to do this.
troll
No, you should use Python.
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On Tue, 7 May 2002, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:22:26PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
[SNIP]
It is relevant. In my spare time I run two small ISPs in Melbourne.
The total user-base of them both is 1000 users, logs are carefully
watched, and spam incidence is almost
On Tue, 7 May 2002 17:44, Jason Lim wrote:
Jason has complained in the past about his IP addresses being listed
in spews even though none of them has ever been used for sending spam.
Simply because he lives in a country that contains lots of open relays
is enough to be listed as a
On Tue, 7 May 2002 15:57, Marc Haber wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2002 01:49, Marc Haber wrote:
Yes. But if you want to get rid of _any_ spam, shut down your MTA.
Which will yield about the same effect than using Spamcop as a German
ISP.
Have you sent an email to the administrators of spamcop
NOTE: unless you have something worthwhile and DIFFERENT to say, go away
and stop bothering me. i'm not at all interested in the brain-damaged
opinions of a moron, and this thread got very boring a long time ago.
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 05:44:39PM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
the fact is that
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 10:25:12AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Craig Sanders wrote:
no, it's not relative. there is an absolute, black-and-white
criteria which you are too stupid to see: if a site is part of the
spam problem then it should be black-listed. if it
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 06:21:18PM +1000,
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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does python have an edit-in-place command line option, like perl's -i?
Unfortunately no, but you can easily write a script which will do the
same. Here is an example, quick and
Hi,
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 10:25:12AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Craig Sanders wrote:
no, it's not relative. there is an absolute, black-and-white
criteria which you are too stupid to see: if a site is part of the
On Tue, 7 May 2002 18:21, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I currently use the following black lists, and IMHO none of them give
false positives.
[SNIP]
dialups.mail-abuse.org,
You must be kidding. This is a list that considers people who don't use
their provider's MTA as trespassers (quote
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Russell Coker wrote:
I currently use the following black lists, and IMHO none of them give
false positives.
[SNIP]
dialups.mail-abuse.org,
btw, dynablock.wirehub.net is better. unlike the MAPS DUL it is
On Tue, 7 May 2002 18:55, Craig Sanders wrote:
Dynamic IP address is the criteria.
seems like a perfectly reasonable assumption to me. in my experience,
all mail which comes directly from a dynamic IP *IS* spam.
the tiny handful of hobbyists with their own domains hosted on a dynamic
IP
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Craig Sanders wrote:
and assumes dialup/DSL people to be guilty by default.
Dynamic IP address is the criteria.
Ok, if that the *only* criteria I don't have a problem with it.
Making the ISP accountible for the mail sent by their customers by
having it forced
On Tue, 7 May 2002 18:41, Craig Sanders wrote:
yes, you have missed it because i've mentioned it several times in this
thread. here it is spelt out so that even you or jason should be able
to understand it:
1. is the site an open relay?
Most people here agree on this, but you'll still see
Okay... in that case, you can block virtually ALL the large network
providers and hosting providers like Sprint, UUnet, Level3, etc.,
because nearly all of them have some sort of spam problem, big or
small. I know of virtually no large provider that has not had 1 single
complaint of
[SNIP]
no, it's not relative. there is an absolute, black-and-white criteria
which you are too stupid to see: if a site is part of the spam
problem
then it should be black-listed. if it is not part of the problem then
it shouldn't be listed.
Pray tell then, *when* is a site part of
2. is the site a spam source?
That's my point. *Where* is your threshold? *When* do you, with absolute
certainty, conclude that a site is a spam source?
Actually, he sort of answered you...
if any of the above are true, then the site should be black-listed.
regardless of company size.
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Russell Coker wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2002 18:21, Emile van Bergen wrote:
You must be kidding. This is a list that considers people who don't use
their provider's MTA as trespassers (quote from MAPS' information page
about this list), and assumes dialup/DSL people to be
1. is the site an open relay?
Most people here agree on this, but you'll still see some debate,
particularly about the distinction between relays that are merely open
and
relays that have been actively abused. Some people think that we
shouldn't
block an open relay until it's spammed us.
Of course. As said, if the list causes only people with *dynamic* IPs to
be forced to use their ISP's MTA, I'd agree that it's a very good idea.
Very good idea... but how is the RBL going to stay so up-to-date with what
is static, what is dynamic, etc.? It sounds good, but would be a logistic
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
perl is the ideal tool to do this.
troll
No, you should use Python.
/troll
Ah, but using which editor? ;-)
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On Tue, 7 May 2002, Jason Lim wrote:
Of course. As said, if the list causes only people with *dynamic* IPs to
be forced to use their ISP's MTA, I'd agree that it's a very good idea.
Very good idea... but how is the RBL going to stay so up-to-date with what
is static, what is dynamic,
On Tue, 7 May 2002 19:48, Jason Lim wrote:
And I also believe in it, because it is very possible that one of the
tests to determine if it is an open-relay is braindead... what if I made a
mail server that pretends it will relay email, but in fact does not, and
actually records the IP that
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 06:55:29PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
and assumes dialup/DSL people to be guilty by default.
Dynamic IP address is the criteria.
seems like a perfectly reasonable assumption to me. in my
Hi,
On Tue, 7 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 06:55:29PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
Making the ISP accountible for the mail sent by their customers by
having it forced through their MTA in
Hi,
Stimulated by the spamassasin Thread i tried to setup spamassasin (after
installing it a while ago) on my postfix with postfix-amavis.
With no succes so far...
spamc on commandline works, postfix-amavis works,
both didn't.
I set up two filters, vscan and spam, one listening on 10025
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