Re: users bypassing shaper limitation

2001-07-01 Thread Chris Wagner
My first choice is also what the other Chris said, use a large LART on the offending [computer|user]. You can use smart switches to base the ip on pre-authorized MAC addresses. That way you are effectivly shaping based on MAC address. But in true hacker form, even that can be overcome. Some (m

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-28 Thread Chris Wagner
Revisiting traceroute.org, I see that they have a whole list of route servers. :) At 01:09 PM 6/27/01 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >Here's a machine that used to provide such a service, not sure if it >still does: > >route-views.oregon-ix.net ---==--- ___/``\___

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Chris Wagner
Revisiting traceroute.org, I see that they have a whole list of route servers. :) At 01:09 PM 6/27/01 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >Here's a machine that used to provide such a service, not sure if it >still does: > >route-views.oregon-ix.net ---==--- ___/``\___

AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Chris Wagner
A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route lookups and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. The special thing about this router was that you didn't need a user name or password to log on with. It just gave you the IOS prompt. I haven't been on this

AT&T public router

2001-06-26 Thread Chris Wagner
A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route lookups and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. The special thing about this router was that you didn't need a user name or password to log on with. It just gave you the IOS prompt. I haven't been on thi

Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-03 Thread Chris Wagner
I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!! At 05:18 PM 6/3/01 +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote: > > >On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > >> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote: >> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware: >> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/misc >> > Se

Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-03 Thread Chris Wagner
I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!! At 05:18 PM 6/3/01 +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote: > > >On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > >> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote: >> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware: >> > >> > czajnik@earth:~$ more /proc/misc >> > Segme

Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

2001-06-02 Thread Chris Wagner
far as I can see there's more than enough left for decades to come. At 09:28 PM 6/1/01 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >On Tue, 22 May 2001 08:00:01 +0200, Robert Waldner ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>On Tue, 22 May 2001 01:26:56 EDT, Chris Wagner writes: >>>We should pr

Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

2001-06-02 Thread Chris Wagner
far as I can see there's more than enough left for decades to come. At 09:28 PM 6/1/01 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >On Tue, 22 May 2001 08:00:01 +0200, Robert Waldner ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>On Tue, 22 May 2001 01:26:56 EDT, Chris Wagner writes: >>>We should pr

Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Wagner
At 08:00 AM 5/22/01 +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: > >On Tue, 22 May 2001 01:26:56 EDT, Chris Wagner writes: >>We should probably clarify "non-routable" by saying "non-publicly routable". > >Well, we could also say RFC1918, couldn´t we ;-? LOL >- DNS,

Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Wagner
At 07:27 AM 5/21/01 +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: >On Mon, 21 May 2001 13:46:14 +1000, Jeremy Lunn writes: >>I know this isn't Debian specific. But I'm just wondering if it's fine >>to route routable IP addresses over non-routable IP addresess. > >Yes, although many would consider it bad practice (

Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

2001-05-21 Thread Chris Wagner
At 08:00 AM 5/22/01 +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: > >On Tue, 22 May 2001 01:26:56 EDT, Chris Wagner writes: >>We should probably clarify "non-routable" by saying "non-publicly routable". > >Well, we could also say RFC1918, couldn´t we ;-? LOL >- DNS,

Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

2001-05-21 Thread Chris Wagner
At 07:27 AM 5/21/01 +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: >On Mon, 21 May 2001 13:46:14 +1000, Jeremy Lunn writes: >>I know this isn't Debian specific. But I'm just wondering if it's fine >>to route routable IP addresses over non-routable IP addresess. > >Yes, although many would consider it bad practice

Re: fckng null sender with Exim

2001-04-30 Thread Chris Wagner
At 06:48 PM 4/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Ok. I'm the original poster and what i want is: > >Mails with a NULL sender with an invalid recipient get bounced to the >email address of any Header that happen to exists. > >And if the recipient doesn't exists and there is no way to bounce then

Re: fckng null sender with Exim

2001-04-30 Thread Chris Wagner
At 06:48 PM 4/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Ok. I'm the original poster and what i want is: > >Mails with a NULL sender with an invalid recipient get bounced to the >email address of any Header that happen to exists. > >And if the recipient doesn't exists and there is no way to bounce the

Re: DNS master and NOTIFY

2001-04-24 Thread Chris Wagner
But why does that occur? At 12:27 PM 4/24/01 -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: >On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:43:42AM -0400, Haim Dimermanas wrote: >> >> > My problem is the following : the master sends NOTIFY request to the >> > slaves for that zone every 8 seconds (sometimes 10 sec, sometimes 4 >> > sec)

Re: DNS master and NOTIFY

2001-04-24 Thread Chris Wagner
But why does that occur? At 12:27 PM 4/24/01 -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: >On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:43:42AM -0400, Haim Dimermanas wrote: >> >> > My problem is the following : the master sends NOTIFY request to the >> > slaves for that zone every 8 seconds (sometimes 10 sec, sometimes 4 >> > sec

Re: how to block everything from an entire /24

2001-04-18 Thread Chris Wagner
The better way is to block it at the router. Once you figure it out, blocking subnets is trivial and much more resource effective than having your firewall do it. Read your router's documention about ACL's, access control lists. At 08:37 AM 4/16/01 -0400, Peter Billson wrote: > You need to *qu

Re: how to block everything from an entire /24

2001-04-18 Thread Chris Wagner
The better way is to block it at the router. Once you figure it out, blocking subnets is trivial and much more resource effective than having your firewall do it. Read your router's documention about ACL's, access control lists. At 08:37 AM 4/16/01 -0400, Peter Billson wrote: > You need to *q

Re: Advice needed : transproxy

2001-04-13 Thread Chris Wagner
Another way to accomplish that would be a Cisco router set to trunking. Evenly dividing the traffic flow to two servers. At 10:15 PM 4/11/01 -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: >At 04:56 PM 4/5/01 +0200, Alson van der Meulen wrote: >>I don't think transproxy will handle such a load quite

Re: Advice needed : transproxy

2001-04-13 Thread Chris Wagner
Another way to accomplish that would be a Cisco router set to trunking. Evenly dividing the traffic flow to two servers. At 10:15 PM 4/11/01 -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: >At 04:56 PM 4/5/01 +0200, Alson van der Meulen wrote: >>I don't think transproxy will handle such a load quite

Re: Advice needed : transproxy

2001-04-11 Thread Chris Wagner
At 04:56 PM 4/5/01 +0200, Alson van der Meulen wrote: >I don't think transproxy will handle such a load quite well, but you >can try and find out :) You might want to try a hardware based balancer. Something like Local Director. ---==--- ___/``\___ 0100

Re: Advice needed : transproxy

2001-04-11 Thread Chris Wagner
At 04:56 PM 4/5/01 +0200, Alson van der Meulen wrote: >I don't think transproxy will handle such a load quite well, but you >can try and find out :) You might want to try a hardware based balancer. Something like Local Director. ---==--- ___/``\___ 0100

Re: What means "icmplog: destination unreable" ?

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Wagner
Marc, flames to /dev/nul please. At 12:25 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >195.179.172.30 looks like a backbone router of ISION Internet in >Hamburg, as you could have found out yourself by doing a reverse DNS >lookup. That router is trying to tell you that a packet your machine >has sent out w

Re: What means "icmplog: destination unreable" ?

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Wagner
Marc, flames to /dev/nul please. At 12:25 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >195.179.172.30 looks like a backbone router of ISION Internet in >Hamburg, as you could have found out yourself by doing a reverse DNS >lookup. That router is trying to tell you that a packet your machine >has sent out

Re: sendmail is slow for mass mail

2001-04-03 Thread Chris Wagner
So, what happened to sendmail? How did it earn it's fall from grace? When I got into it, sendmail was it. I've never looked closely at the mail system since. ---==--- ___/``\___ 0100

Re: sendmail is slow for mass mail

2001-04-03 Thread Chris Wagner
So, what happened to sendmail? How did it earn it's fall from grace? When I got into it, sendmail was it. I've never looked closely at the mail system since. ---==--- ___/``\___ 0100 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: Fck iexplorer and .pac files

2001-03-01 Thread Chris Wagner
They seem to work ok for me in Windows, with IE and Netscape. Haven't tried it under unix. At 09:54 PM 2/27/01 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Hi there > >The Fck iexplorer do not to work properly with the .pac files for me. > >When the pac file tell the browser to connect directly fo

Re: Fck iexplorer and .pac files

2001-03-01 Thread Chris Wagner
They seem to work ok for me in Windows, with IE and Netscape. Haven't tried it under unix. At 09:54 PM 2/27/01 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Hi there > >The Fck iexplorer do not to work properly with the .pac files for me. > >When the pac file tell the browser to connect directly f

Re: bridge + transproxy

2001-01-30 Thread Chris Wagner
I don't think that would work. To make the squid box pick up the requests without the users having to set anything you'ld have to put ipchains or something on it to redirect the traffic. If the box died, the link between the router and the hub would be broken and nothing would get through. One

Re: AOL type signup

2001-01-25 Thread Chris Wagner
You would have to do a good chunk of programming to pull something like that off. You would have to create a "new user" account whose shell would be the main program. That program would decide if the "AOL" crap was valid or not and then proceed to make a new user account. You can put any loggin

Re: default route

2001-01-12 Thread Chris Wagner
At 06:36 PM 1/12/01 -0500, Peter Billson wrote: >Can you add routes to a Windoze box?!!? ;-) Amazingly, you can! Get on one and type "route print". +---+ | -=Close election, huh.=- | +—

Re: exim relay

2001-01-06 Thread Chris Wagner
It sounds like it is trying to talk to the outside world over port 26, which ain't gonna happen. If you are prevented from making port 25 connections to the outside world by your ISP, then you will need some box out there to listen on port 26 to get your mail and then forward it on to where ever

Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Chris Wagner
At 11:33 AM 9/13/00 -0600, Nathan wrote: >What ping of death attacks? > >The only ones I have heard of, were fixed with kernel patches seriously >quick after they came out. Maybe he means ping floods? Pings of death usually will crash a box after a few packets hit it. As you said Debian is good

Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Chris Wagner
At 11:33 AM 9/13/00 -0600, Nathan wrote: >What ping of death attacks? > >The only ones I have heard of, were fixed with kernel patches seriously >quick after they came out. Maybe he means ping floods? Pings of death usually will crash a box after a few packets hit it. As you said Debian is good

Re: information question

2000-09-06 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:51 AM 9/5/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >sites of users that I have on the machine (i.e- ~debian-isp). I was >wondering how they are finding out which users that I have on the machine >and was wondering if I could be running services that pose a security >problem. I only have the followi

Re: information question

2000-09-06 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:51 AM 9/5/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >sites of users that I have on the machine (i.e- ~debian-isp). I was >wondering how they are finding out which users that I have on the machine >and was wondering if I could be running services that pose a security >problem. I only have the follow

RE: ip addresses

2000-08-08 Thread Chris Wagner
Interesting. Have you ever had a problem with people spoofing MAC addresses to get IP's? How does your system react if more than one host presents a request for an IP if that MAC has already been assigned an IP? Seems like if they're going to the trouble to give you the MAC address you might as

RE: ip addresses

2000-08-08 Thread Chris Wagner
Interesting. Have you ever had a problem with people spoofing MAC addresses to get IP's? How does your system react if more than one host presents a request for an IP if that MAC has already been assigned an IP? Seems like if they're going to the trouble to give you the MAC address you might as

Re: mkswap error

2000-08-01 Thread Chris Wagner
Blow away the partition and recreate it. If that doesn't work, try to format it as ext2 to see if there is a disk defect. You'll then be able to run fsck. Badblocks might also give you some useful info. At 05:01 PM 8/1/00 -0700, Kevin wrote: > swap_free: swap-space map bad (entry 011d1000) >

Re: mkswap error

2000-08-01 Thread Chris Wagner
Blow away the partition and recreate it. If that doesn't work, try to format it as ext2 to see if there is a disk defect. You'll then be able to run fsck. Badblocks might also give you some useful info. At 05:01 PM 8/1/00 -0700, Kevin wrote: > swap_free: swap-space map bad (entry 011d1000) >

Re: how to limit area's users can traverse

2000-07-19 Thread Chris Wagner
Just use group permissions. Put each user in their own group. Take away world access. chmod w-rwx * At 03:11 PM 7/18/00 -0500, John F. Davis wrote: >hello > >How do you limit the area which a user can go with ftp? >i.e, when user ftp's to my server, how do I keep him in >his portion of the file

Re: how to limit area's users can traverse

2000-07-19 Thread Chris Wagner
Just use group permissions. Put each user in their own group. Take away world access. chmod w-rwx * At 03:11 PM 7/18/00 -0500, John F. Davis wrote: >hello > >How do you limit the area which a user can go with ftp? >i.e, when user ftp's to my server, how do I keep him in >his portion of the fil

Re: subnet

2000-07-15 Thread Chris Wagner
At 01:44 PM 7/14/00 -0700, Kevin wrote: >When our customers dial-in, and they run winipcfg in 98 it shows that >their subnet is 255.0.0.0. Recently a customer complained that this >was degrading their performance. I've tried some other isps to see >what happens on theirs and its about 50/50 with

Re: subnet

2000-07-15 Thread Chris Wagner
At 01:44 PM 7/14/00 -0700, Kevin wrote: >When our customers dial-in, and they run winipcfg in 98 it shows that >their subnet is 255.0.0.0. Recently a customer complained that this >was degrading their performance. I've tried some other isps to see >what happens on theirs and its about 50/50 with

Re: ATA 66 and security

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
At 02:59 AM 7/13/00 +0200, Tamas TEVESZ wrote: >have my hpt366 working with any of the default precompiled kernels >please. I don't understand this sentence. >he was referring to _udma66_ drives and controllers. Um, he wrote: >does Debian or any Linux support ATA-66 disks? If yes, >do I need any

Re: ATA 66 and security

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
At 02:59 AM 7/13/00 +0200, Tamas TEVESZ wrote: >have my hpt366 working with any of the default precompiled kernels >please. I don't understand this sentence. >he was referring to _udma66_ drives and controllers. Um, he wrote: >does Debian or any Linux support ATA-66 disks? If yes, >do I need an

Re: ATA 66 and security

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
The default precompiled kernels come with IDE support. At 12:02 PM 7/13/00 +1200, Daniel Free wrote: >Yes debian does, well actualy thats not strictly true. +---+ | -=H E L L - J U S T D O N ' T V O T E F O R G O R E=- |

Re: Re: PROFTPD root login

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
At 09:55 PM 7/12/00 +0200, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C1ts?= Attila wrote: >Then how could I upload files? Should I create a user with >rights to specific directories? Yes. Ftp'ing as root is a bad bad thing. Create an admin account that has access to ONLY the areas you want to ftp files to. +---

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
At 11:27 PM 7/11/00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >How does one decompile a hard drive? With a hammer? Wdc is a diagnostic program that "fixes" your WD drive. >I could be wrong, but I highly recommend Western Digital EIDE drives. I've had nothing but bad (truly horrible - 100% data loss) exper

Re: Re: PROFTPD root login

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
At 09:55 PM 7/12/00 +0200, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C1ts?= Attila wrote: >Then how could I upload files? Should I create a user with >rights to specific directories? Yes. Ftp'ing as root is a bad bad thing. Create an admin account that has access to ONLY the areas you want to ftp files to. +--

Re: ATA 66 and security

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
The default precompiled kernels come with IDE support. At 12:02 PM 7/13/00 +1200, Daniel Free wrote: >Yes debian does, well actualy thats not strictly true. +---+ | -=H E L L - J U S T D O N ' T V O T E F O R G O R E=- |

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Wagner
At 11:27 PM 7/11/00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >How does one decompile a hard drive? With a hammer? Wdc is a diagnostic program that "fixes" your WD drive. >I could be wrong, but I highly recommend Western Digital EIDE drives. I've had nothing but bad (truly horrible - 100% data loss) expe

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Wagner
WD is bad, they're a bad bad company. Anyone who has a WD drive in their server should take it out and THROW IT AWAY. I don't trust wdc as far as I can decompile it. On any file system. At 10:39 PM 7/11/00 -0600, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: > >Huh? Western Digitals drive test utility will

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Wagner
Heheh, there is NO WAY in HELL I would run wdc on an ext2 partition. :) At 09:59 PM 7/11/00 -0600, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: >Depending on the mfgr of the drive, you should be able to boot off a >floppy and run a utility to 'check' the drive for errors. > >WD has this and requires some use

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Wagner
You can try running fsck and badblocks to attempt to fix the errors. But I've never had luck with either of those tools on a drive that was dieing. If the errors remain, there's a 99% probability the drive is bad. At 11:54 PM 7/10/00 -0400, JoeCool wrote: >Hi, > >I'm getting some Input/Output err

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Wagner
WD is bad, they're a bad bad company. Anyone who has a WD drive in their server should take it out and THROW IT AWAY. I don't trust wdc as far as I can decompile it. On any file system. At 10:39 PM 7/11/00 -0600, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: > >Huh? Western Digitals drive test utility wil

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Wagner
Heheh, there is NO WAY in HELL I would run wdc on an ext2 partition. :) At 09:59 PM 7/11/00 -0600, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: >Depending on the mfgr of the drive, you should be able to boot off a >floppy and run a utility to 'check' the drive for errors. > >WD has this and requires some us

Re: Harddrive Errors

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Wagner
You can try running fsck and badblocks to attempt to fix the errors. But I've never had luck with either of those tools on a drive that was dieing. If the errors remain, there's a 99% probability the drive is bad. At 11:54 PM 7/10/00 -0400, JoeCool wrote: >Hi, > >I'm getting some Input/Output er

Re: apache question

2000-07-06 Thread Chris Wagner
Sounds like the 2nd NIC isn't fully turned on. Is everything the way it should be in ifconfig? Have you tried binding any other daemons to the 2nd NIC? I also think you'll need ip based vhosts in Apache to make it listen to a 2nd NIC. The second NIC should be on a different subnet, otherwise ha

Re: apache question

2000-07-06 Thread Chris Wagner
Sounds like the 2nd NIC isn't fully turned on. Is everything the way it should be in ifconfig? Have you tried binding any other daemons to the 2nd NIC? I also think you'll need ip based vhosts in Apache to make it listen to a 2nd NIC. The second NIC should be on a different subnet, otherwise h

Re: commercial offerings anyone

2000-07-05 Thread Chris Wagner
At 08:45 PM 7/5/00 -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote: >1. Terminal server for connecting one box to many serial devices such as > routers, switches, other terminal servers for serial connectivity >when network is down. The Comtrol Rocketport board is very nice. You can put up to 128 serial ports

Re: List managers

2000-07-05 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:47 AM 7/5/00 +0200, Javier Castillo wrote: > which list manager do you recommend me?, easy to admin, fast, and of >course, gnu :)) Who says you can only use GNU software? Don't limit yourself to GNU, use any software that has a "free" license you find acceptable. +--

Re: commercial offerings anyone

2000-07-05 Thread Chris Wagner
At 08:45 PM 7/5/00 -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote: >1. Terminal server for connecting one box to many serial devices such as > routers, switches, other terminal servers for serial connectivity >when network is down. The Comtrol Rocketport board is very nice. You can put up to 128 serial port

Re: List managers

2000-07-05 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:47 AM 7/5/00 +0200, Javier Castillo wrote: > which list manager do you recommend me?, easy to admin, fast, and of >course, gnu :)) Who says you can only use GNU software? Don't limit yourself to GNU, use any software that has a "free" license you find acceptable. +-

Re: IDE or SCSI ??

2000-07-03 Thread Chris Wagner
Ok, ok, I'm late as hell but I had to reply. :) You don't need SCSI unless you're doing something fancy or insane. Giving Apache more RAM is *vastly* better than giving it SCSI. The RAM lets you cache everything so the hard disk becomes not very important for I/O. Max out your motherboard's RAM

Re: IDE or SCSI ??

2000-07-03 Thread Chris Wagner
Ok, ok, I'm late as hell but I had to reply. :) You don't need SCSI unless you're doing something fancy or insane. Giving Apache more RAM is *vastly* better than giving it SCSI. The RAM lets you cache everything so the hard disk becomes not very important for I/O. Max out your motherboard's RA

Re: pop3 server,

2000-06-27 Thread Chris Wagner
I'ld recommend Cucipop due to it's security record. That's what I use. Just don't look at the source code. :) At 10:03 PM 6/26/00 +0200, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: >Hello, >which packaged with debian pop3d would you people recommend? > which one do you use? +---

Re: pop3 server,

2000-06-27 Thread Chris Wagner
I'ld recommend Cucipop due to it's security record. That's what I use. Just don't look at the source code. :) At 10:03 PM 6/26/00 +0200, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: >Hello, >which packaged with debian pop3d would you people recommend? > which one do you use? +--

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-20 Thread Chris Wagner
At 02:25 PM 6/20/00 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >They don't use NVT. The TELNET protocol is not running on (for example) a >web server. Yeah but the NVT settings have to be negotiated for each side to talk to each other. If I telnet to an Apache webserver on port 80, my telnet is going to negoti

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-20 Thread Chris Wagner
At 02:25 PM 6/20/00 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >They don't use NVT. The TELNET protocol is not running on (for example) a >web server. Yeah but the NVT settings have to be negotiated for each side to talk to each other. If I telnet to an Apache webserver on port 80, my telnet is going to negot

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 12:50 AM 6/19/00 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >It is called TCP - Transmission Control Protocol. RFC793. I'm starting to conclude that it's just called a "tcp connection". But I'm still reading through the RFC... It was written in 1983 and for whatever reason it seems to use the term socket a

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 12:50 AM 6/19/00 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >It is called TCP - Transmission Control Protocol. RFC793. I'm starting to conclude that it's just called a "tcp connection". But I'm still reading through the RFC... It was written in 1983 and for whatever reason it seems to use the term socket

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-17 Thread Chris Wagner
At 12:24 AM 6/17/00 -0500, Kain wrote: >What I think you're thinking of is just IP. You probably haven't been seeing Definately not IP, IP just gets your packets there and back. >Now, if you actually mean "what octets mean and do", those are actually defined higher than TCP, and are laid out i

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-17 Thread Chris Wagner
At 12:24 AM 6/17/00 -0500, Kain wrote: >What I think you're thinking of is just IP. You probably haven't been seeing Definately not IP, IP just gets your packets there and back. >Now, if you actually mean "what octets mean and do", those are actually defined higher than TCP, and are laid out

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-16 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:48 PM 6/16/00 -0500, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: >Sockets? Butyou would definitely have seen this more than a couple of >times. No, not sockets, sockets are way down on the stack. This is the protocol that says what the octets mean and do. It's the common thread among all the high level protocol

tcp connection

2000-06-16 Thread Chris Wagner
Hola. What is the official name of the type of connection that the common network protocols use? It lives somewhere above the tcp layer and below the app layer but is so obscure that I can't find it. e.g. Telnet, ftp, http, etc. all establish an x type connection and then transmit their dat

Re: tcp connection

2000-06-16 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:48 PM 6/16/00 -0500, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: >Sockets? Butyou would definitely have seen this more than a couple of >times. No, not sockets, sockets are way down on the stack. This is the protocol that says what the octets mean and do. It's the common thread among all the high level protoco

tcp connection

2000-06-16 Thread Chris Wagner
Hola. What is the official name of the type of connection that the common network protocols use? It lives somewhere above the tcp layer and below the app layer but is so obscure that I can't find it. e.g. Telnet, ftp, http, etc. all establish an x type connection and then transmit their da

Re: whois *server*?

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Wagner
At 08:32 PM 5/28/00 -0500, Security wrote: >The finger gateway script came in the cgi scripts with Debian. I just >changed finger to whois. seems to work well. I think what he wants is a server that does what InterNIC does. Answer whois type database queries issued from the whois program. I don'

Re: broken postfix, help me

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Wagner
Hi. Sorry to jump in this thread late. But it looks like your upstream fried your DNS entries. I'ld strongly recommend you update your InterNIC records to point to DNS servers that *you* control, not anyone else. Because as you just found out, when DNS screwups occur, they take a lot of stuff wi

Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Wagner
At 05:42 AM 5/24/00 +, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote: >> >> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :) But I still prefer individualism >> >> to socialism.^^ >> >m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism? >> Ok, I don't really know what you mean?

Re: au vs. us

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:57 PM 5/25/00 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >On Wed, 24 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote: >>**(If anyone *really* must reply to this, snip debian-isp)** ^^^ I guess you didn't

Re: Followup: Logging a POP3 session

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Wagner
Changing mail clients won't make a difference. Just tell him what you found, that everything went out that came in. Then tell him to look to the sender, because there's a five nine probability that she's screwing up and nuking messages. At 05:02 PM 5/25/00 +1000, Daniel Quinlan wrote: >after a w

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Wagner
At 11:17 AM 5/23/00 +0200, I. Forbes wrote: >Question: Is'nt there a deb package with scripts for creating boot >disks? I feel I should not be reinventing the wheel. There is, but I can't remember the name. :) +---+ |-=I T

Re: PPP dial-up server w/

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Wagner
Each tty has an options file. The server side and client side ips are assigned in there. +---+ |-=I T ' S P R I N C I P L E T H A T C O U N T S=- | |=- -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=

Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Wagner
At 12:35 PM 5/23/00 +, Sergey A. Ribalchenko wrote: >> Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :) But I still prefer individualism >> to socialism.^^ >m.b. you missed, did you mean onanism? Ok, I don't really know what you mean? +---

au vs. us

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Wagner
**(If anyone *really* must reply to this, snip debian-isp)** Craig sent me a quite funny diatribe. Seems he thinks I'm a "stupid American". At 10:07 PM 5/23/00 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >ROFL. I did research, I watched a TV show! Could you indict America any >further? Despite the generally v

Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Wagner
At 05:25 PM 5/19/00 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: >to yanks, socialism is an evil, dirty word - roughly equivalent >to satanism. but we understand why you're like that...you've been >brainwashed with anti-socialist bullshit since you were small children. Hahah, Satanism, that was a good one. :) But

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-19 Thread Chris Wagner
It's not too hard to find pine*.deb. Use Fast FTP Search. At 09:54 AM 5/19/00 +0800, Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta wrote: >Because Univ of Washington doesn't allow modified tarballs to be >distributed, and you have to modify the tarball's paths to be Debian >compliant. +---

Re: Transfer data between two comps without network

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 12:48 PM 5/18/00 +0200, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: >That was the original scheme, but bosses hmmm, after some consultations >said that we should transfer data on cd-roms with armed guardian. >so now we've got problems, and deadlines haven't changed >although we had no idea of those security issues

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
If kickstart is a red hat package, you can install it on debian using alien. Then you can use red hat's kickstart to install debian. :) At 01:55 PM 5/18/00 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: >Most of the answers I've been getting on this subject seem like total >hacks, which may work but really are trick

Re: where to find web browser statistics information?

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 09:59 AM 5/19/00 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: >i don't know what your laws are like in russia, but here in australia >you can get hit with a discrimination lawsuit(*) if you don't support Yeah, I've heard some scary things out of Australia lately. It's like they're moving toward socialism/commu

Re: Transfer data between two comps without network

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 04:36 PM 5/18/00 +0500, Vlad Harchev wrote: > I think you can install NIC into machine with data (call it machine A), place >another machine with large hdd with NIC in it near the source machine A (call >it machine B), connect them using crosswired UTP, download data to machine B, A laptop woul

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 09:55 PM 5/17/00 -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > copy everything from the master drive to the copy, then run the > appropriate Lilo command to make that copy bootable. You can then > mount it in another machine and it's ready to go. You have to filter > some things out when you copy. See bel

Re: Logging a POP3 session

2000-05-17 Thread Chris Wagner
At 02:11 AM 5/18/00 GMT, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > system: > Debian 2.1 > exim 2.05-2 > qpopper 2.3-4 CuCiPOP tells you how many messages were downloaded by default. :) If that log says 10 messages were pulled, then HE DID download 10 messages. If that number syncs up with what exim says it de

Re: What tape drive & backup tool ?

2000-05-17 Thread Chris Wagner
I used a standard low cost IDE HP Travan tape drive using TR4 cartridges and it worked fine. Though every once and a while it would complain and I'ld have to take the tape out an put it back in. For non-insane applications this would be adequate. A simple tar script run out of cron kept me alive

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-17 Thread Chris Wagner
The only real difference between stable and unstable is that unstable has up to date packages. The only thing stable has over unstable is the track history of "yeah all this stuff has worked together for a LONG time". At 12:16 AM 5/17/00 -0400, Will Lowe wrote: >Actually, unstable is usually pret

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-17 Thread Chris Wagner
Sorry, but I was so underwhelmed by rpm's capabilities and my reaction was so one sidedly negative that I can't describe it any other way. It is what I typed. At 02:55 PM 5/17/00 +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >Previously Chris Wagner wrote: >> RPM is a piece of crap compared

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-17 Thread Chris Wagner
I have to disagree there. I've found Debian packs to be extremely up to date, atleast on the security end. And even on routine maintanance, the lag is not that bad. At 08:44 PM 5/16/00 -0700, David Lynn wrote: >I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's all >assuming th

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