Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-23 Thread Ward Willats
At 5:20 PM +1100 1/23/04, Craig Sanders wrote: debian isn't the only linux distribution to have a base system. SLS had one. Slackware had (still has?) one. MCC (if anyone can remember it) had one. these are all dating back to 1993 or 1994, so it's not exactly a new concept in the linux world.

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-23 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Thursday, January 22, 2004 21:24 -0800 Ward Willats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah? Well, two things: 1) AFAIK, only Debian has a base system that is truly a minimal install. I suppose some other distros do this now too. But a Red Hat install, for instance, is like the circus coming to town

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:24:15PM -0800, Ward Willats wrote: At 2:14 PM +1100 1/23/04, Craig Sanders wrote: e.g. his long-winded page on the base system, makes it seem as if a base system is something magically distinct that only freebsd has. Linux distributions have had base systems since

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-23 Thread Ward Willats
At 5:20 PM +1100 1/23/04, Craig Sanders wrote: debian isn't the only linux distribution to have a base system. SLS had one. Slackware had (still has?) one. MCC (if anyone can remember it) had one. these are all dating back to 1993 or 1994, so it's not exactly a new concept in the linux world.

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote: I've not had time to look closely at this, but I've heard it's a fair linux/bsd comparison http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/ let me know if anyone sees an inaccuracy! an interesting article, and

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Friday, January 23, 2004 14:14 +1100 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: e.g. his long-winded page on the base system, makes it seem as if a base system is something magically distinct that only freebsd has. Linux distributions have had base systems since the early days and, just like

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Ward Willats
At 2:14 PM +1100 1/23/04, Craig Sanders wrote: e.g. his long-winded page on the base system, makes it seem as if a base system is something magically distinct that only freebsd has. Linux distributions have had base systems since the early days and, just like *BSD, base system means that it is

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Thursday, January 22, 2004 21:24 -0800 Ward Willats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah? Well, two things: 1) AFAIK, only Debian has a base system that is truly a minimal install. I suppose some other distros do this now too. But a Red Hat install, for instance, is like the circus coming to

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:24:15PM -0800, Ward Willats wrote: At 2:14 PM +1100 1/23/04, Craig Sanders wrote: e.g. his long-winded page on the base system, makes it seem as if a base system is something magically distinct that only freebsd has. Linux distributions have had base systems since

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote: I've not had time to look closely at this, but I've heard it's a fair linux/bsd comparison http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/ let me know if anyone sees an inaccuracy! an interesting article, and

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Friday, January 23, 2004 14:14 +1100 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: e.g. his long-winded page on the base system, makes it seem as if a base system is something magically distinct that only freebsd has. Linux distributions have had base systems since the early days and, just like

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-22 Thread Ward Willats
At 2:14 PM +1100 1/23/04, Craig Sanders wrote: e.g. his long-winded page on the base system, makes it seem as if a base system is something magically distinct that only freebsd has. Linux distributions have had base systems since the early days and, just like *BSD, base system means that it is

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-20 Thread Peter
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:00:18 +0100, in linux.debian.isp you wrote: I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . well, three really bad kernel bugs and now on 2.6 kernel so many new things - in 2004

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-20 Thread Jose Alberto Guzman
Peter wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:00:18 +0100, in linux.debian.isp you wrote: I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . well, three really bad kernel bugs and now on 2.6 kernel so many new things - in

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:12, Jose Alberto Guzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the time consuming job part, it may be so, if your hardware is something like a pentium mmx, nowadays it takes less than 3 or 4 minutes to recompile a 2.4, and maybe other 3 or 4 mins. from reboot to login prompt.

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-20 Thread Peter
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:00:18 +0100, in linux.debian.isp you wrote: I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . well, three really bad kernel bugs and now on 2.6 kernel so many new things - in 2004

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-20 Thread Jose Alberto Guzman
Peter wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:00:18 +0100, in linux.debian.isp you wrote: I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . well, three really bad kernel bugs and now on 2.6 kernel so many new things - in

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:12, Jose Alberto Guzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the time consuming job part, it may be so, if your hardware is something like a pentium mmx, nowadays it takes less than 3 or 4 minutes to recompile a 2.4, and maybe other 3 or 4 mins. from reboot to login prompt.

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Sylvain Cauchon
Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, Please share you exprience with me .. Thanks Vahric

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Alex Borges
There is a very young thread about this in the list archives...look in there, then come with more speciffic doubts...:) El lun, 19-01-2004 a las 13:58, Vahric MUHTARYAN escribió: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread George Georgalis
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS,

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread George Georgalis
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . Do

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
For Web Server and Mail Server -Original Message- From: Sylvain Cauchon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:16 PM To: Vahric MUHTARYAN Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Message- From: George Georgalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
- From: Andrew M.A. Cater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:30 AM To: Vahric MUHTARYAN Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread George Georgalis
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:56:08AM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi , I want to learn about Web Server Performans .. Because I tested ext3/jrn with redhat ( Debian use ext3 too ) and compare it with UFS/Softupdate , at this moment I saw that ufs/SoftUpdate is working more faster then ext3/jrn .

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Alex Borges
, because after redhat , debian is really most used OS ?! Vahric -Original Message- From: George Georgalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Sylvain Cauchon
Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, Please share you exprience with me .. Thanks Vahric

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Alex Borges
There is a very young thread about this in the list archives...look in there, then come with more speciffic doubts...:) El lun, 19-01-2004 a las 13:58, Vahric MUHTARYAN escribió: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread George Georgalis
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS,

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread George Georgalis
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . Do

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
For Web Server and Mail Server -Original Message- From: Sylvain Cauchon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:16 PM To: Vahric MUHTARYAN Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Message- From: George Georgalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:32 AM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
- From: Andrew M.A. Cater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:30 AM To: Vahric MUHTARYAN Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi Everybody , I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want

Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread George Georgalis
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:56:08AM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: Hi , I want to learn about Web Server Performans .. Because I tested ext3/jrn with redhat ( Debian use ext3 too ) and compare it with UFS/Softupdate , at this moment I saw that ufs/SoftUpdate is working more faster then ext3/jrn .

RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Alex Borges
, because after redhat , debian is really most used OS ?! Vahric -Original Message- From: George Georgalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:32 AM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM