Re: Postfix! [WAS: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..]

2003-09-06 Thread Hans Spaans
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:01:29PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Friday 05 September 2003 13:45, Nico Meijer wrote: - wietse venema is [...] d) dutch Taking into account that .nl is one of the major sources of spam right now (through a2000.nl and

Re: Postfix! [WAS: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..]

2003-09-06 Thread Brian Olivier
Please people, What is the connection between the nationality of Wietse Venema and people who sent spam? This is a very strange argument and more fitted for a discussion between kids. We are adults, we are professionals, this list is to discuss technicall matters (personal opinions allowed).

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
I've been running Qmail since '98. It's got a bottleneck in disk writes, but aside from that it's fast. (Anybody tried running the queue in a ramdisk? Howabout in an fs made in a file mounted looback?) It's secure and reliable. Unfortunately, it's not being maintained by its author. If you want

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Franz Georg Khler
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 04:19:54PM -, Cameron L. Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've given up on Qmail. I'm using Exim for small systems, and I'll try Postfix for my next big one. Why won't you give exim a try on bigger systems? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread W.D. McKinney
Hmm. Since '98 ...good for you. All the patches in the world don't help some folks anyway.Qmail has many ways to skin a cat. In the end, it's pick a horse and ride it. Exim, Postfix, Sendmail and qmail all have querks. Like the Mutt homepage, All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 02:19, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: I've been running Qmail since '98. It's got a bottleneck in disk writes, but aside from that it's fast. (Anybody tried running the queue in a ramdisk? Running the queue on a ramdisk would kill reliability. Using a non-volatile RAM device

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:08, Eric Sproul wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 01:14, Russell Coker wrote: I was under the impression that Sendmail also queues everything to disk. How does it's queue operate then? While the message is coming in, Sendmail buffers the message to memory, optionally

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Jason Lim
- Original Message - From: Cameron L. Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 07 September, 2003 12:19 AM Subject: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? .. I've been running Qmail since '98. It's got a bottleneck in disk writes, but aside from that it's fast. (Anybody tried

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Jason Lim
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 02:19, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: I've been running Qmail since '98. It's got a bottleneck in disk writes, but aside from that it's fast. (Anybody tried running the queue in a ramdisk? Running the queue on a ramdisk would kill reliability. Indeed, been there done

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
I wrote: Unfortunately, [Qmail's] not being maintained by its author. I've also used [PM]MDF and Smail. Their authors bailed, too. I've used Slackware's and SuSE's Sendmail on personal systems, but never for anything other people were depending on. W.D. McKinney top-posted: I know of several

Re: Postfix! [WAS: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..]

2003-09-06 Thread Jason Lim
Please people, What is the connection between the nationality of Wietse Venema and people who sent spam? This is a very strange argument and more fitted for a discussion between kids. We are adults, we are professionals, this list is to discuss technicall matters (personal opinions

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 13:47, Jason Lim wrote: Mmm... one of the limitations of Qmail is that it creates many many individual files (one for each email) and due to filesystem limitations, EXT2/3 starts slowing to a crawl. Of course, another way would be to use ReiserFS, but wouldn't doing a FS in

Postfix! [WAS: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..]

2003-09-05 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Martin, - ralf hildebrandt uses postfix (he's the guru, next to wietse. - ralf hildebrandt and patrick koetter (the other guru) are coming out with a book on postfix (http://www.nostarch.com/postfix.htm) - wietse venema (postfix's author) is a) capable b) generally a nice person, or so i've

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.05.0740 +0200]: This is illegal. And in any case, it's not official. Correction, this is not illegal, but only if you install a package that violates the FHS[1] big time. I don't see the merits in qmail to account for this compromise. 1.

Re: Postfix! [WAS: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..]

2003-09-05 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 05 September 2003 13:45, Nico Meijer wrote: - wietse venema is [...] d) dutch Taking into account that .nl is one of the major sources of spam right now (through a2000.nl and plant.nl), I'm not sure if this counts for or against using postfix. -- vbi (Happy postfix user) (Since

RE: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Thomas Lamy
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Dale E Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.04.1447 +0200]: Has it been covered before on this list? I for one would be interested in elaboration, if there is something technically inferior about exim or postfix to qmail or sendmail? Or politically, I

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Eric Sproul
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 01:14, Russell Coker wrote: I was under the impression that Sendmail also queues everything to disk. How does it's queue operate then? While the message is coming in, Sendmail buffers the message to memory, optionally piping the DATA portion to a socket (for milter

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:08, Eric Sproul wrote: Yes, I know we could set a larger minimum interval for POP, but the political implications of generating tech support calls about why can't I POP my mail? prevent it. Don't get me started on THAT. 8^o sorry to butt in, but HOW could you set

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Eric Sproul
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 10:18, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:08, Eric Sproul wrote: Yes, I know we could set a larger minimum interval for POP, but the political implications of generating tech support calls about why can't I POP my mail? prevent it. Don't get me started

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Guus Houtzager
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:18, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:08, Eric Sproul wrote: Yes, I know we could set a larger minimum interval for POP, but the political implications of generating tech support calls about why can't I POP my mail? prevent it. Don't get me started

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:31, Guus Houtzager wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:18, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:08, Eric Sproul wrote: Yes, I know we could set a larger minimum interval for POP, but the political implications of generating tech support calls about why

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Eric Sproul
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 11:19, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote: cyrus huh? in that case: is cyrus-popd a drop-in replacement for UW-pop (ipopd) on debian? I seem to remember it is not. You are correct. Cyrus uses a completely different method for storing mail, so you cannot just install its POP daemon.

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Nathan Eric Norman
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:19:51AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.05.0740 +0200]: This is illegal. And in any case, it's not official. Correction, this is not illegal, but only if you install a package that violates the FHS[1] big time.

Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Hi, Sorry to bother you all with this repeat question. I've have searched around and seen plenty of opinions but I'd like to ask again and get the latest from this list. Sendmail or Qmail ? That is my question. Currently we use Sendmail. It's worked fine, well actually problem free so better

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Greg Hindson
Why change something thats working perfectly ?? - Original Message - From: Rudi Starcevic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Sendmail or Qmail ? .. Hi,Sorry to bother you all with this repeat question.I've have

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Alex Borges
It all depends qmail has a very non standard way of being managed. Its almost meta-unix. That said, its VERY flexible, extremely powerfull, once you get a hang of it INCREDEBLY EASY to manage. And it has no paralell in security (AGES and AGES better than sendmail) Sadly, its non free. You

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread M. Lucas
-04 at 07:43, Rudi Starcevic wrote: Hi, Sorry to bother you all with this repeat question. I've have searched around and seen plenty of opinions but I'd like to ask again and get the latest from this list. Sendmail or Qmail ? That is my question. Currently we use Sendmail. It's worked

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Jamie Baddeley
. And it has no paralell in security (AGES and AGES better than sendmail) Sadly, its non free. You cannot distribute binaries of it, you can not distribute it modified (have to distribute the patches separately). Even if debian has very good packages for it, the license defeats the good system

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Hi, Why change something thats working perfectly ?? Greg .. Yes that's what I was thinking .. -- but that's what they also said in Nth America 'til the recent blackouts :-( And it has no paralell in security (AGES and AGES better than sendmail) Alex .. That's what mostly appeals to me

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Alex Borges
El jue, 04-09-2003 a las 01:47, Jamie Baddeley escribió: so how does exim compare in all of this? It doesnt at all Not to ellaborate, but the subject says it all...even then. I hate exim too. jamie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Hi, so how does exim compare in all of this? Sorry Jamie - In my case, and my case alone, Exim doesn't compare. There are many very good MTA's out there. For me I know Sendmail - ( I compile from source ). I've heard lots of good things about Qmail to I did consider that one only. Also every

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Dale E Martin
At this stage I'm leaning towards sticking with Sendmail but something inside wants to know more about Qmail. I'd pick exim or postfix over either of those, but then again I've only dealt with smaller mail installations. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Dale E Martin
It doesnt at all Not to ellaborate, but the subject says it all...even then. I hate exim too. Has it been covered before on this list? I for one would be interested in elaboration, if there is something technically inferior about exim or postfix to qmail or sendmail? Or politically, I

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Eric Sproul
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 01:43, Rudi Starcevic wrote: Hi, Sorry to bother you all with this repeat question. I've have searched around and seen plenty of opinions but I'd like to ask again and get the latest from this list. Sendmail or Qmail ? That is my question. Rudi, I work at an ISP

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Rod Rodolico
, I'd like to change now. I use IMAP which I never tried under sendmail. So, if the list gets the time, I'd like to know why not exim, with an eye towards changing (I'm currently building a replacement server, so now would be a good time to change if necessary). Rod On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 01:43

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Rudi Starcevic
to a choice of three. a) Sendmail b) Qmail c) Postfix. Well Qmail is out I think - for Religous reasons. See I'm Religous - that's why I use and love Debian ;-) As for Sendmail, well some say it's full of holes but as Eric has noted those bugs get ironed out pronto and apt sorts the rest out

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Alex Borges
El jue, 04-09-2003 a las 07:58, Eric Sproul escribió: We chose OpenLDAP. At the time (1999), Qmail did not have LDAP support (correct me if I'm wrong). Sendmail did. Even if Qmail did have LDAP support then, Sendmail's source was *much* easier to dig through for the performance tuning we

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dale E Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.04.1447 +0200]: Has it been covered before on this list? I for one would be interested in elaboration, if there is something technically inferior about exim or postfix to qmail or sendmail? Or politically, I suppose, since much of people's

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Rudi Starcevic
, if there is something technically inferior about exim or postfix to qmail or sendmail? Or politically, I suppose, since much of people's dislike about qmail has more to due with "political" than technical reasons. random notes (these are facts and opinions, please don't flame me): - sendmai

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Dale E Martin
random notes (these are facts and opinions, please don't flame me): - sendmail and exim are both single setuid binaries. bad. - postfix is the most performant of all four. - qmail has an interesting but possibly confusing configuration paradigm - postfix has the easiest configuration, IMHO

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread George Georgalis
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:54:55AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Mostly good comments (I've never used postfix or exim -- comments seem accurate from what I've heard) but I have to disagree with this: - qmail support includes being flamed by the author I've subscribed to the qmail list more or

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread W.D. McKinney
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 14:54, martin f krafft wrote: - qmail isn't available as a binary package for Debian Wrong. See http://smarden.org/pape/Debian/ . - qmail support includes being flamed by the author Wrong. Ask a question and find out. Many helpful people who don't flame but as they

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread W.D. McKinney
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 04:58, Eric Sproul wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 01:43, Rudi Starcevic wrote: Hi, Sorry to bother you all with this repeat question. I've have searched around and seen plenty of opinions but I'd like to ask again and get the latest from this list. Sendmail

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread George Georgalis
), a sendmail milter would pipe the message off to the load balancer, and the milter would receive it back into the sendmail process. Sending a message out for processing and dropping it back in the queue is really not the qmail way. With qmail you might accept mail to a cluster of relays (eg via dns round

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread Russell Coker
Qmail was always blocking while it I was under the impression that Sendmail also queues everything to disk. How does it's queue operate then? where the mailbox is). We chose OpenLDAP. At the time (1999), Qmail did not have LDAP support (correct me if I'm wrong). Sendmail did. Even if Qmail

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dale E Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.05.0207 +0200]: I'd add: - exim has the most extensive and useful documentation (But I'd love to be proven wrong!) possible, although i do find the stuff on postfix.org adequate. maybe not for MTA newbies but for people with experience

Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach W.D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.05.0448 +0200]: - qmail isn't available as a binary package for Debian Wrong. See http://smarden.org/pape/Debian/ This is illegal. And in any case, it's not official. - qmail support includes being flamed by the author Wrong. Ask a

Re: Disable STARTTLS in sendmail

2003-08-14 Thread Simon McCartney
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 05:45:04PM -0400, Richard A Nelson wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Markus Bajohr wrote: I've installed Debian Woody 3.0 with the sendmail package. It's all working, but I get a lot of messages, like: Aug 12 13:22:35 fileserver sm-mta[2420]: STARTTLS=server: file

Virtualusertable in sendmail don't work.

2003-07-23 Thread Erick Lopez Carreon
Hello: I'm triying to use virtualusertable feature of sendmail I put in my sendmail.mc: LOCAL_CONFIG FEATURE(`nullclient', jupiter.dmz.technitrade.com)dnl LOCAL_CONFIG ## Custom configurations below (will be preserved) FEATURE(`virtusertable', `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable.db')dnl

Re: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-27 Thread John Sigerson
Thanks for all the help I received on this. Yes, the X-Authentication-Warning reporting abuse of the sendmail -f switch, went away after I added the following line to submit.mc FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl and, of course, adding the trusted username (in my case, apache, since that's what my server

Re: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-26 Thread John Sigerson
Thanks for all the help I received on this. Yes, the X-Authentication-Warning reporting abuse of the sendmail -f switch, went away after I added the following line to submit.mc FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl and, of course, adding the trusted username (in my case, apache, since that's what my server

Re: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Suter
/trusted-users; added FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl to /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, did make, and restarted sendmail. (For testing, I also did not include authwarnings as one of the privacy flags.) But still, this pesky X-Authentication-Warning will not go away! You also need to edit submit.mc to add

Re: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-25 Thread John Sigerson
Well, I had already fooled around with submit.mc, but on your suggestion I tried it again--but with no success. I added the following line to submit.mc: define(`confTRUSTED_USER', `johnsig')dnl then did make, and from my johnsig shell, did the following: /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-25 Thread Christian Storch
... Please be aware about the position - - it dosen't work everywhere within that file! Christian -Original Message- From: John Sigerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken

Re: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Suter
/trusted-users; added FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl to /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, did make, and restarted sendmail. (For testing, I also did not include authwarnings as one of the privacy flags.) But still, this pesky X-Authentication-Warning will not go away! You also need to edit submit.mc to add

Re: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-25 Thread John Sigerson
Well, I had already fooled around with submit.mc, but on your suggestion I tried it again--but with no success. I added the following line to submit.mc: define(`confTRUSTED_USER', `johnsig')dnl then did make, and from my johnsig shell, did the following: /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-25 Thread Christian Storch
... Please be aware about the position - - it dosen't work everywhere within that file! Christian -Original Message- From: John Sigerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:47 AM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken

Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-24 Thread John Sigerson
I'm using Debian sendmail distribution 8.12.3-6.4 and I have apache running as user apache and group apache. I'm running a CGI program which calls sendmail using the -f switch to set the sender's e-mail address (apache is running a number of virtual servers, each with a separate domain

Is sendmail trusted-user feature broken?

2003-06-24 Thread John Sigerson
I'm using Debian sendmail distribution 8.12.3-6.4 and I have apache running as user apache and group apache. I'm running a CGI program which calls sendmail using the -f switch to set the sender's e-mail address (apache is running a number of virtual servers, each with a separate domain

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-06-06 Thread Ariel Graneros
I prefer postfix, it is rock solid everywhere i use it, has fewer security issues than sendmail, is quite powerful, and the best of all, is veery easy to configure. Anyway, i've never tried anything else. On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:10:17 -0300 Ana Paula Sabelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I´m

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-06-06 Thread Sis
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Ariel Graneros wrote: I prefer postfix, it is rock solid everywhere i use it, has fewer security issues than sendmail, is quite powerful, and the best of all, is veery easy to configure. Anyway, i've never tried anything else. On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:10:17 -0300 Ana

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-06-06 Thread Ariel Graneros
I prefer postfix, it is rock solid everywhere i use it, has fewer security issues than sendmail, is quite powerful, and the best of all, is veery easy to configure. Anyway, i've never tried anything else. On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:10:17 -0300 Ana Paula Sabelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I´m

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-06-06 Thread Sis
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Ariel Graneros wrote: I prefer postfix, it is rock solid everywhere i use it, has fewer security issues than sendmail, is quite powerful, and the best of all, is veery easy to configure. Anyway, i've never tried anything else. On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:10:17 -0300 Ana

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-22 Thread Marcus Meyer
I´m setting up a mail server, I ´d like to hear opinions about which one is better. My favorit ist qmail. Take a look at http://www.pipeline.com.au/staff/mbowe/isp/webmail-server.htm greets - Diese eMail ist ein Service von Wird noch nicht

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-22 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:10:17PM -0300, Ana Paula Sabelli wrote: Hi, I´m setting up a mail server, I ´d like to hear opinions about which one is better. Qmail. Even though it has some problems too, as every piece of software does, they are in no way of the same magnitude as sendmail's

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-22 Thread Volker Tanger
Greetings! On Wed, 21 May 2003 18:40:36 +0200 Franz Georg Köhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I?m setting up a mail server, I ?d like to hear opinions about which one is better. It depends on your personal preferences. I favor exim: http://www.exim.org/ . Main question: what do you

sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-21 Thread Ana Paula Sabelli
Hi, I´m setting up a mail server, I ´d like to hear opinions about which one is better. TIA Ana Paula Sabelli

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-21 Thread Franz Georg Khler
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:10:17PM -0300, Ana Paula Sabelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I?m setting up a mail server, I ?d like to hear opinions about which one is better. It depends on your personal preferences. I favor exim: http://www.exim.org/ .

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-21 Thread Splash Tekalal
At 12:10 PM 5/21/2003 -0300, Ana Paula Sabelli wrote: Hi, I´m setting up a mail server, I ´d like to hear opinions about which one is better. TIA Ana Paula Sabelli Personally, I use Postfix.. It handles just about anything I need to throw at it.. -Splash

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-21 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
hear is that it has some obscure 'features' where the authors opinion differs from everybody else's. I stopped using sendmail because I really like to *understand* a configuration file... I use postfix - easy to set up, does everything I want it to do, has good spam control possibilities

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-21 Thread W.D. McKinney
On Wed, 2003-05-21 at 07:10, Ana Paula Sabelli wrote: Hi, I´m setting up a mail server, I ´d like to hear opinions about which one is better. TIA Ana Paula Sabelli OK, it's a sysadmin preference type isssue for sure. Having run Sendmail, Exim, Postfix, qmail and atmail, we have settled

Re: sendmail or qmail or what?

2003-05-21 Thread Victor Yoalli Dominguez Torres
like qmail mainly because of its license (I never explored further than that), and because about the only things I regularly hear is that it has some obscure 'features' where the authors opinion differs from everybody else's. I stopped using sendmail because I really like to *understand

i have problems for configure mailscanner + sendmail +f-prot

2003-04-14 Thread sebastian serrano
someone now a good howto to do it or how to do it run???

sendmail connection timeout problem

2003-04-09 Thread Michael Flaig
Hi there, i have a problem on my primary mail server. it runs debian woody and sendmail. it is forwarding mails with the mailertable feature to our customers mailservers. the customers are connected to our PoP via leased-lines. here the error from the mail.log Apr 9 15:06:11 mx1 sm-mta[2220

sendmail + amavis-ng + amavis-ng-milter-helper + clamavd

2003-03-18 Thread Tomàs Núñez Lirola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I am trying to use sendmail + amavis-ng + amavis-ng-milter-helper + clamavd in a mail server of 1635 users. It works, but after a while (about 10 minutes) I see messages like that Mar 18 17:09:21 drow sm-mta[30007

sendmail + amavis-ng + amavis-ng-milter-helper + clamavd

2003-03-18 Thread Tomàs Núñez Lirola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I am trying to use sendmail + amavis-ng + amavis-ng-milter-helper + clamavd in a mail server of 1635 users. It works, but after a while (about 10 minutes) I see messages like that Mar 18 17:09:21 drow sm-mta[30007

Re: Sendmail Virtual user table.

2003-01-14 Thread Eduard Ballester
Hello I realize I can set up a catch all for each of the domains, but I'm looking for something a little more elegant. I think that the only way is this: @thisdomain.com %1.thisdomain @thatdomain.net %1.thatdomain @theotherdomain.org %1.theotherdomain [EMAIL PROTECTED] is local user name

Re: Sendmail Virtual user table.

2003-01-14 Thread ragnar
Quoting Eduard Ballester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello I realize I can set up a catch all for each of the domains, but I'm looking for something a little more elegant. Sorry to go of subject but vserver is more elegant http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc It is RedHat based but

Re: Sendmail Virtual user table.

2003-01-13 Thread Brad Lay
As far as I know, theres no way around this. By the way sendmail (and any other MTA as well), anything that is listed in 'local-host-names' is treated as a domain that will be accepted for any valid user. The only way I can think of is mapping every user email to each user, not with a catchall

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-26 Thread Craig Sanders
. this is what postfix, and i believe sendmail too, calls connection caching, or re-using an existing SMTP connection to deliver a second (or third or...) message, instead of closing the connection after sending one message and opening new connections for subsequent messages. tis isn't what Jason wanted, which

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-26 Thread Jason Lim
I remember, that sendmail, exim, and others have queuing strategies, that try to minimize the number of remote conections. El lun, 25-11-2002 a las 07:00, Craig Sanders escribió: On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:37:58PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: nope, because postfix has no way of knowing

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-25 Thread martin f krafft
have a look at zmailer also! if you are limited to choose between the three you quoted, then postfix is the answer. reasons in other posts of this thread... -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-25 Thread Craig Sanders
direct to the postfix box. this may involve hacking the list manager to talk SMTP rather thank fork /usr/sbin/sendmail, or it may involve replacing /usr/sbin/sendmail with a wrapper script that talks SMTP. either way, it's not too hard. Nope... not running ezmlm at all, just a lot of CGIs

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-25 Thread Craig Sanders
-case for postfix. there's a newer benchmark by the same guy with more details. it compares postfix, qmail, exim, and sendmail: http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/postfix/bench2.html there are other MTA benchmarks around. search on google if you want to find more. btw, on a linux box

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-25 Thread Jason Lim
recently there was a patch floating on the qmail list that patches the way qmail-send runs. The result is having two processes instead, and one performance bottleneck within qmail-send removed. I don't recall the details, but the purported increase in performance should be at least a factor

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-25 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
Jason Lim writes: recently there was a patch floating on the qmail list that patches the way qmail-send runs. The result is having two processes instead, and one performance bottleneck within qmail-send removed. I don't recall the details, but the purported increase in performance should

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-25 Thread Jorge . Lehner
Hello! I remember, that sendmail, exim, and others have queuing strategies, that try to minimize the number of remote conections. El lun, 25-11-2002 a las 07:00, Craig Sanders escribió: On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:37:58PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote: nope, because postfix has no way of knowing

Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-24 Thread Jason Lim
Sendmail, but then how does Postfix operate (similar/hybrid)? It hear Postfix does something fancy in that regard that is a mix or something, but since I'm no Postfix expert, perhaps someone knows more about this? The reason I ask is that we have a number of Qmail servers right now

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-24 Thread Craig Sanders
. if you're not using VERP, postfix is *MUCH* faster than qmail. I know people have complained about Qmail's way of sending emails... in that it creates a connection for each email rather than bunching them up like Sendmail, but then how does Postfix operate (similar/hybrid)? It hear Postfix does

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-24 Thread Jason Lim
stuff more (Apache). yep, it will get the mail off the qmail boxes ASAP, which will be some improvement at least. I was also hoping in some optimization of the actual mail sending as well... such as what Sendmail or Postfix could offer in this case. If what you say above is what will happen

Re: Qmail/Postfix/Sendmail for fastest outgoing mail

2002-11-24 Thread Craig Sanders
. Wouldn't Postfix combine them in this situation? nope. you might think of them as just one email, but by the time postfix gets them they are multiple different emails. I was also hoping in some optimization of the actual mail sending as well... such as what Sendmail or Postfix could offer

sendmail upgrade

2002-10-28 Thread Glenn Hocking
Hi All I have just run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade on one of my production servers which upgraded sendmail and now it won't start. The error is as follows, snip Start sendmail now? (Y/n) Starting Mail Transport Agent: sendmail/usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3

Re: sendmail upgrade

2002-10-28 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:26:23PM +1100, Glenn Hocking wrote: I have just run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade on one of my production servers which upgraded sendmail and now it won't start. The error is as follows, snip Start sendmail now? (Y/n) Starting Mail Transport Agent

sendmail upgrade

2002-10-28 Thread Glenn Hocking
Hi All I have just run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade on one of my production servers which upgraded sendmail and now it won't start. The error is as follows, snip Start sendmail now? (Y/n) Starting Mail Transport Agent: sendmail/usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3

Re: sendmail upgrade

2002-10-28 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:26:23PM +1100, Glenn Hocking wrote: I have just run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade on one of my production servers which upgraded sendmail and now it won't start. The error is as follows, snip Start sendmail now? (Y/n) Starting Mail Transport Agent

Re: future time-date stamp on emails on new sendmail box???

2002-09-19 Thread Erik Aronsson
Your default time zone is set to 'Australia/Brisbane'. Local time is now: Sat Aug 17 01:58:12 EST 2002. Universal Time is now: Fri Aug 16 15:58:12 UTC 2002. When the local time is infact Fri Aug 16 10:59am Sounds to me that the local time is wrong. Get ntpdate and point it to a ntp

Re: future time-date stamp on emails on new sendmail box???

2002-09-19 Thread Erik Aronsson
Your default time zone is set to 'Australia/Brisbane'. Local time is now: Sat Aug 17 01:58:12 EST 2002. Universal Time is now: Fri Aug 16 15:58:12 UTC 2002. When the local time is infact Fri Aug 16 10:59am Sounds to me that the local time is wrong. Get ntpdate and point it to a ntp

Re: future time-date stamp on emails on new sendmail box???

2002-09-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 04:14:12PM +0800, Mario Zuppini wrote: I work for a small isp and we have just got a new mailserver up and operational running Debian 3.0 w/ sendmail + qpopper etc. The box is handling the loads fine all but for one problem, any mail that passes through the server, 1

Re: [woody] sendmail bug?. Yes, it is

2002-09-10 Thread Davi Leal
I have installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r0 (woody). I have updated it from security and ftp.debian.org using apt-get. I have found troubles installing sendmail 8.12.3-4 /usr/sbin/sendmailconfig: /usr/sbin/update-conf: No such file or directory Correct /etc/mail/sendmail.conf

Re: [sendmail] How avoid the reverse DNS check?

2002-09-06 Thread Philipp Schmidt
On Thu, 2002-09-05 11:11:33 +0200, Davi Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sendmail 8.12.2-5 When sending mail to the server, there is a 25 second delay before the sent mail is accepted. It is due to the reverse DNS check. How to disable the reverse DNS check?. Any

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