Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
Marcus Better wrote: > The Maintainer has ultimate responsibility for the package, so there is > someone to blame if the package rots. :-) What if this person becomes MIA? We then know (better) who to blame but the situations does not improve compared to now. I'm listed as uploader in serveral p

Re: SVN for dummy java packagers...

2006-04-07 Thread Stefan Gybas
Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: 2. svn-buildpackage --svn-tag creates tags which are not compliant with the Java packager instructions hosted somewhere (I lost track of this page), i.e. it's X.Y.Z-N instead of RELEASE_X_Y_Z-N. Do you see this as an issue? Thanks for your work. IIRC this was bec

Re: Purpose of version number install jar installation

2006-03-29 Thread Stefan Gybas
Peter Eisentraut wrote: I have long wondered what the purpose of including the version number in the installed name of a jar was. I don't see one and still think they are a bad idea, as stated in http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2003/07/msg00086.html Most people disagreed at that time an

java.debian.net

2006-01-25 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi! The old wiki at java.debian.net does not exist any longer so I have changed the DNS record for java.debian.net to point to pkg-java.alioth.debian.org. There is now a redirection from http://java.debian.net/index.php to http://wiki.debian.org/Java so some of the old URLs (except HomePage,

Re: RFC: wiki.debian.org/Java

2005-11-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arnaud Vandyck wrote: | Maybe you mean java.debian.net. This wiki is maybe too open... it's a | problem for spam. Also, I though maybe we could find some hardware to The server that java.debian.net is currently running on will be replaced at the end

Re: Proposing libforms-java for debian java maintenance

2005-08-16 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 06:06:15PM +0200, Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > I didn't get an answer to this email? Everybody in holiday or nobody Well, at least I'm on holiday and will be offline until Sunday. > interested? (it's not a problem, I can try to "use" my usual sponsor, > perhaps he doesn

Bug#302887: java-common: Should have the same maintainer as the other java packages

2005-04-03 Thread Stefan Gybas
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: At the moment, java-common is the only java package maintained by . All the other java packages are maintained by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. java-common is a special package because it contains the Java Policy. Like the Debian Policy, it is not maintained by a small group of

Re: Jetty config depends on missing ant.jar

2005-01-26 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:44:25PM +, John Patterson wrote: > I have hit another problem with the Jetty package. It depends on > /usr/share/java/ant.jar which does not exist on my installation (unstable). > There is only an ant-1.6.jar. Creating a symlink to this fixed the problem. You nee

Re: Installation of Application Server

2004-08-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Madhavi wrote: Step 2: root/download_directory> j2eesdk-1_4_01-linux.bin But none are working. Getting a message: command not found. The current directory is not in the command path in the default setup. If you need to run a programm in the current directory, you need to prefix it with "./", e.g.

Re: IMPORTANT [RFS] liblog4j1.2-java build from sources

2004-07-29 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: If you have the time to test the package, and send feedbacks, it is *very* important so maybe Benoit or I could upload it and close #221236. This bug render liblog4j1.2-java not a valid candidate for sarge, that means some java packages won't be valid candidates for sarge, but

Re: Jboss, Apache2 and mod_jk2

2004-07-02 Thread Stefan Gybas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Restarting web server: Apache2Syntax error on line 5 > of /etc/apache2/conf.d/work ers2.properties: > Invalid command '[logger]', perhaps mis-spelled or > defined by a module not inclu ded in the server > configuration workers2.properties is not a configuration file snipp

Re: Sablevm 1.1.5 / Sid

2004-06-06 Thread Stefan Gybas
Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: This version is quite an improvement, as for ex. building .jars with Ant1.6 was reported to work. I can confirm this: I just managed to build libxerces2-java with free-java-sdk / SableVM and libant1.6-java instead of Kaffe. Thanks for your great work, Grzegorz and Eti

Re: tomcat-users.xml

2004-04-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Caoilte O'Connor wrote: Does anyone else find that tomcat-users.xml gets deleted every time they upgrade tomcat4? Someone told my that tomcat-users.xml got overwritten in past releases, but I have never heard of it being deleted. Can you reproduce this with the latest version? If so, please fil

Re: mod_jk2 for Apache2

2004-04-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Lookin at your web space at people.d.o, I did not find any mod_jk package but with a quick google search, I think I read you put some mod_jk2 package for apache2 there, isn't it? No, I have not created a mod_jk2 package for Apache 2.0 in the past. But I did today :-) and upl

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-11 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: What is the rationale for /usr/share/ant1.X/lib ? Is it designed for plugins that would only work with a certain version of ant? Plugins should work with both versions since the API for them has not changed. The reason for /usr/share/ant1.X is that both libant1.5-java and

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: Maybe we should discuss on that. Maybe it's good but I think we should have a common way of doing it. No need to discuss this. :-) Just do it like the other packages do it already: Put your JAR with Ant tasks (or a symlink to the JAR) in /usr/share/ant/lib. I still think t

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar? [was: Re: Accepted ant 1.6.1-1 (all source)]

2004-03-10 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: I do not follow the ant-dev mailing list, but I'd like to know what is the ant-launcher.jar? And what is the startup script? ant-launcher.jar contains classes to set up Ant's class path. It is now the preferred way to start Ant using org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher fro

Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe

2004-03-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Take an account on Alioth (it'll be the same as your Debian login), drop me a mail when you have your account and I'll add you to pkg-java project. I have already done this on 15-Jan-2004 and sent Ean a mail about it. However, I did not get a response. I propose kaffe to be

Ean, please orphan Kaffe!, was Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe

2004-03-03 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ean Schuessler wrote: The last significant change to Kaffe from a *packaging* perspective was migrating it to DBS and that was my work. Your recent NMUs (which have been The most significant work on the Kaffe package in the last 12 months was the move to 1.1. Arnaud has created test packages [1

Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe

2004-03-03 Thread Stefan Gybas
Bob Snyder wrote: Clearly from your email you think Arnaud should be the/a maintainer of Kaffe. I'm not arguing that point, I just think to make that happen you need to follow b or c from above, not just make it happen and see if anyone notices. Ean has already stated that Arnaud and Ben should

Re: Status of gjdoc...

2004-03-03 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: What about xalan? Did you upload it to main? Did you success running Not yet. I'm waiting for Ean's response. I don't want to base more packages on Kaffe if it is not properly maintained. gjdoc with xalan? I can build gjdoc with Kaffe and the new packages in main but it doe

Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe

2004-03-03 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ean Schuessler wrote: That said, I must protest whole-heartedly with the way you are dealing with me as the maintainer of Kaffe. Performing an NMU that adds yourself as an Uploader and uses a non-NMU version number is gross breach of protocol. I have talked to Arnaud about the Kaffe package at F

Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-02 Thread Stefan Gybas
The Debian project shared a developers' room at FOSDEM (http://www.fosdem.org/) with Free Java developers so this room was particularly interesing for Debian Java maintainers like me. I had a lot of discussions with Grzegorz Prokopski, Arnaud Vandyck and Dalibor Topic but also with some GNU cla

Re: libxalan-java

2004-02-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: Sorry, for all the inconvinience. I completly missed the 'source' here. Well, the binary package would also be called libxalan-java. The packages that are ready to go to main are available at http://people.debian.org/~sgybas/java/. All but libxalan-java have been uplodaded are

Re: libxalan-java

2004-02-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: It seems that some packages use xalan directly and having it upgrading I've not looked at fop but as I've said, the currently packaged libxalan2-java includes additional external classes in xalan2.jar and FOP might use them to access the XSL transformer. to a newer breaking AP

Re: libxalan-java

2004-02-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: Thats also the reason, why the proposed policy uses '[-].jar' and 'lib-java' as names for jars and packages. Xalan and Xerces don't not have external APIs themselves. The API for Xalan is TrAX and packaged in libjaxp1.2-java. If some packages are using internal classes directly

libxalan-java

2004-02-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi! I've managed to build Xalan-J 2.5.2 with Kaffe and Jikes and it even seems to run with Kaffe. So the main Xalan package could go into main! I'd like to name the new source package in main libxalan-java (instead of libxalan_2_-java) since that's also the name that upstream uses. However, th

Re: eight packages could possibly go to main!

2004-02-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: I've been working on the MovingJavaToMain page[1] and it seems that eight packages could possibly go to main: Good work, thanks! I just managed to build libxerces2-java with Kaffe and Jikes. I had to use an ugly hack because Kaffe's wrapper does not allow to override $BOOT

Re: Tomcat 5

2004-02-17 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jerry Haltom wrote: Anybody working on packaging this? If not I'm willing to take a shot at it. Good luck! :-) Seriously: You need to package some libraries like Commons EL first. They are required by Tomcat 5. Then you need to change the build system not do do CVS checkouts during build time.

Re: gij package providing java1-runtime

2004-01-31 Thread Stefan Gybas
Matthias Klose wrote: See #176629: gij-3.2: package incorrctly provides java1-runtime. Is this a somewhat valid report? which runtime implementations provide the complete runtime? I don't know if you've read -java in the past weeks but there's no consensus what java*-runtime actually means and wh

Re: Problem with tomcat4 using java security manager

2004-01-29 Thread Stefan Gybas
Forrest Cahoon wrote: Something that strikes me as really odd is that there is only the file 04webapps.policy in the directory /etc/tomcat4/policy.d. Am I missing another policy file that's supposed to go in that directory? You are missing 4 of them, the missing entries that you have manually

Re: Bug#228878: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
josh buhl wrote: no they don't. some, like tomcat4, have an "or" type dependency on java-virtual-machine, so the dummy package takes care of this. the only two java packages giving me a headache right now are libtomcat4-java and libcommons-beanutils-java, both of which insist on installing jav

Re: Bug#228878: libtomcat4-java: should have a dependency on java-virtual-machine

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
josh buhl wrote: Here's the deal: I have Sun's j2sdk1.4.2_01 installed. That pretty much takes care of all the java dependencies, but since it's not a debian package, none of the debian java stuff knows about it. I don't want to install any of the packages that provide java2-runtime, since I've

Re: question about tomcat

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Michael Forster wrote: IIRC the problem is, that the links are regenerated when the package is updated. They are not regenerated if at least one link is not deleted (or an S link is replaced by a K link). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: question about tomcat

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Mariano García wrote: I want to ask you if there is any way to get tomcat does not start automatically when linux starts. Yes, you can set TOMCAT4_USER to an empty string in /etc/default/tomcat4. However, you won't be able to manually run /etc/init.d/tomcat4 in this case either. There has been

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: One solution to this (which I found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10605.html) would be to temporily make new (empty) versions of the jikes-* packages with priority extra, and that only depend on the new jikes-with-* packages. This would require a new

java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
[Not CC'ing the bug since it's not related to it] Jan Schulz wrote: Which version? The content changed quite havily with the discussion :) The original one. As I've said, I've not yet read the discussion yet. I'll send my comments in a couple of days so we can discuss all this at FOSDEM. Even

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: And this is my core problem with your proposal. You want to remove j2/1-runtime, but you offer nothing whatsoever to replace it. No, I don't. Java applications must still depend on the required java*-runtime virtual packages, I just want this dependency removed for library pac

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: But jikes-kaffe also needs to depend on jikes, while kaffe itself does not. I think a suggestion would be enough. The wrapper can be changed to print an error message if jikes is not installed. And nobody is using the /usr/bin/javac alternatives anyway, right? Stefan -- T

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: Speaking of maintenace. Currently jikes is at version 1.18-6. This means that currently these wrappers are also at version 1.18-6. Once they're moved to respective JVMs - they'll have the same versions as each JVM. If they are in separate packages which are then built

Re: Bug Status of Kaffe

2004-01-16 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ean Schuessler wrote: However, Kaffe is the only thing that I maintain so I am loathe to give it up entirely. I would be happy to share the burden of maintaining Kaffe with a I don't think you have to maintain packages to stay a Debian developer, especially if you are SPI's president. :-) numb

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: * j2/1-runtime does not garantee anything *at runtime*, so it is Right. That's exaclty the reason why I'd like to see them removed for library packages. But I guess I have already told this... :) useless in that respect. IMO, and that was the result of the policy discusion

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: Thus the *absence* of java2-runtime in the depends list is an indication that the package should work on most JVMs in debian. I would however expect these packages to run under java2 as well. In my understanding the absence of java2-runtime means that a package that (solely) pr

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: I invite you to try apt-cache showpkg. Btw, I maintain two of them (jython and libreadline-java), both of which can be used as libraries. $ dpkg -p jython [...] Depends: gij | java-virtual-machine, gij | java1-runtime | java2-runtime, libreadline-java (>= 0.6), python2.

Jan's policy proposal, was Re: bugwatcher problems

2004-01-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: The 'suggested' way was: wait for sarge, do another discussion, do the implementation and then decide on the proposal. Seems that Stefan took some of the ideas and weent for his own proposal (Stefan, may I ask, why you didn't say something at that time?). Anyway, there is current

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: Yes it does. It tells us that the lib/app won't work with java1 alone. Right. But it might work with Kaffe, GIJ and SavleVM. None of them provides java2-runtime since they don't implement the full JDK 1.2+ API. Non of them even implements the full JDK 1.1 API so they also shou

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: I do not like deleting this requirement. Although there are some serious problems with it (such as different libraries working to different degrees on different JVMs), removing this dependency will not solve these problems - it will in fact give the user *less* information regar

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: I would encourage changing "should suggest" to "may suggest or recommend". Agreed. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#227594: [PROPOSAL] Remove binfmt_misc, specify JARs for programs

2004-01-13 Thread Stefan Gybas
Package: java-common Version: 0.22 Severity: wishlist I propose to change the following paragraphs in section 2.3 of the Debian Java policy > Programs must have executable(s) in /usr/bin and be executable. They > can be Java classes (using binfmt_misc) or wrappers. In any case, they > must run with

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-13 Thread Stefan Gybas
Package: java-common Version: 0.22 Severity: wishlist I propose to change the following paragraph in section 2.4. of the Debian Java policy > Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment > (java1-runtime and/or java2-runtime) but should not depend (only > suggest) java-virtual-mac

Getting Kaffe into testing, was Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.3-0.2 (powerpc source)

2004-01-13 Thread Stefan Gybas
Dalibor Topic wrote: For other platforms, we essentially need more developers native on those platforms to look into the compiler warnings, and fix them (easy step one, I guess), and try to fix the crashes (using a prebuilt rt.jar, and running the regression test suite, for example). Let's assu

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.3-0.2 (powerpc source)

2004-01-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
David J. M. Karlsen wrote: I can do builds on HPPA and Sparc if interested. Sure, that would be great! URL to sources ? pool/main/k/kaffe/ on your favoirite Debian mirror. :-) Just add the unstable sources to /etc/apt/sources.list and type "apt-get source kaffe". Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: From contrib to main

2004-01-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Actually it seems to run with the following on unstable: You are right. This is great news! Thanks Kaffe developers! I haven't tried the latest Kaffe 1.1.3 packages before making my statement. Even JSPWiki works! So tomcat4 can move to main as soon as all dependencies have

Re: From contrib to main

2004-01-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Actually it seems to run with the following on unstable: 1. Install Kaffe 2. Install Tomcat4 3. Add the following into /etc/defaults/tomcat4: JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/kaffe JAVA_OPTS="-Xmx128M -mx256M -Dbuild.compiler=kjc" I had to use CATALINA_OPTS since JAVA_OPTS is not exported

Re: From contrib to main

2004-01-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Stupid question: why is java.debian.net running PhpWiki instead of some Java based wiki? :) Because running a Java-based wiki (e.g. JspWiki) would require non-free software. I have not managed to get Tomcat working with free software only. :-( Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: From contrib to main

2004-01-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: Would you mind, if this page was used for some other brainstorming, too? No, go ahead - but please use a different page. :-) Tell me if you need any configuration changes, e.g. user authentication. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: From contrib to main

2004-01-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Done: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?MovingJavaToMain I must admit that I have never user KWiki before I suggested to use wiki.debian.net. After trying to properly format your page I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of features that I know from PhpWiki, mostly multi-line

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.3-0.2 (powerpc source)

2004-01-11 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: kaffe_1.1.3-0.2_powerpc.deb to pool/main/k/kaffe/kaffe_1.1.3-0.2_powerpc.deb Thanks Arnaud! So we now have a current Kaffe version for i386 and powerpc. However, building Kaffe for the other architectures has failed, in most cases while trying to rebuild the class library

Re: tomcat-connectors progress?

2004-01-10 Thread Stefan Gybas
Patrick Herzig wrote: It mentions the package tomcat-connectors, which I guess is intended to replace libapache2-mod-webapp. Yes, this was the intention. However, I was told that mod_webapp is deprecated so I decided to package mod_jk for Apache 1.3 and mod_jk2 for Apache 2.x separately. Is the

Re: mod_jk and mod_jk2

2004-01-10 Thread Stefan Gybas
Alessandro Polverini wrote: I'm using his package right now (why is it not in the debian archive btw?), but it's only for apache 1.3.29, while I need mod_jk2 for apache2. I have rebuild and uploaded the mod_jk package now. It should be in the Debian archives in a couple of days. Any help on how

Re: From contrib to main

2004-01-10 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: I did prepare a web page to try to put as more debian-java packages in main. Good work! Thanks a lot! Could you turn it into a Wiki page so you don't have to merge all comments? You can e.g. create a new MovingJavaToMain page at http://wiki.debian.net/. Stefan -- To UNSU

Re: mod_jk and mod_jk2

2004-01-06 Thread Stefan Gybas
Alessandro Polverini wrote: anybody knows why I seems unable to find mod_jk nor mod_jk2 also in unstable? Yes: mod_jk has been removed from the archives together with Tomcat 3.x and I did not yet upload the new libapache-mod-jk package. A package for the latest Apache 1.3 packages is available f

Re: tomcat4+J2SDK1.3 from Sun - up and working!

2004-01-06 Thread Stefan Gybas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) apt-get install j2sdk1.3 4) cp all the contents from "tmp" to "/usr/lib/j2se/1.3/" delete the original first! (this is because the blackdown is not stable!!!) This is something that you never should do: Replaced files from a Debian package will be overwritten wheneve

Re: [Debian unstable] Errors starting tomcat

2003-12-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Mariano García wrote: # /usr/share/tomcat4/bin/startup.sh This is not the Debian start script, please use /etc/init.d/tomcat4 instead. You need to set some variables first if you want to use startup.sh. Using CATALINA_BASE: /usr/share/tomcat4 This needs to be set to /var/lib/tomcat4. It seems

Re: Apache mod_jk

2003-11-27 Thread Stefan Gybas
Mariano García wrote: I am installing tomcat with apache on Debian (testing). Looking for information I have found that I need mod-jk apache module, and I have found some references about libapache-mod-jk debian package. The libapache-mod-jk package was built by the tomcat source package in woody

Re: Tomcat 4.1.29? Tomcat 5?

2003-11-13 Thread Stefan Gybas
Bear Giles wrote: Is there a reason the latest Tomcat is 4.1.28, not .29? Yes. The reason is that I did not yet have time to update the package. And what about Tomcat5 - still bleeding edge, but some people > are checking it out on less critical sites. Simply download the binary distribtion fro

Re: tomcat-connectors progress?

2003-11-13 Thread Stefan Gybas
elijah wright wrote: i found some messages from october 2003 in the archive about the future availability of a tomcat-connectors package - has any progress been made regarding getting that included in the debian archive? a user of mine Yes, I have created a package and tried to upload it to the F

Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: And why do you think that? The cases look quite different to me. Because the FTP admins abviously don't want to have a lot of small packages when these small scripts/binaries with the same target users can easily be put into a single package (that's also my opinion). But w

Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Takashi Okamoto wrote: I would like to upload j2se-package Nov 11. If you disagree, please tell me. I don't disagree but I think the FTP admins will reject the package after reading the "ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a few days ago" thread in -devel, especially http://lists

Re: Undistributable java in main

2003-10-30 Thread Stefan Gybas
Dalibor Topic wrote: B) me (and I guess a few others who are not lawyers, either): As GPL only really talks about derived works, in order to decide if the GPL applies to a work we must try to see if the new work is derived from a GPLd work, or not. FWIW, this is also my POV after reading some of

Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-10-28 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: Installer depend on unfree software and therefor at least must go into contrib. There was some discussion, whether they should altogether go to non-free. See debian-devel for that. That't true for packages that only consist of an installer. However, I don't see a reason in Polic

Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-10-27 Thread Stefan Gybas
Takashi Okamoto wrote: J2SDK1.3 is used for server purpose by a lot of user. I'll sponsor your pacakge after supporting Sun's j2sdk1.3. What do you think of including it into java-common (together with other useful Java-related scripts)? Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Debian verses Apache tomcat4 version numbers

2003-10-22 Thread Stefan Gybas
J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I'm looking at the versions of tomcat4 and find that debian version is 4.1.28 while apache version is 4.1.27. 4.1.28 is labeled as alpha version by the Jakarta team because it ships newer version on Xerces, regexp and Commons Modeler and because it includes the newer Ap

Re: Bug#212863: new java policy: ok or not?

2003-10-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Same for me, wait until sarge is out and let's restart the discussions about a new policy. I also suggest to handle it this way. However, I think we can still make small changes to the Java Policy before sarge's release, e.g. remove the possibility to put Java classes in

Bug#212863: java-common: New java policy including tools to manage the changes

2003-09-26 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: Here is the discussed proposal java policy as txt and also as tar.gz archive, including all written scripts and manpages As I've already mentioned in http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2003/debian-java-200309/msg00124.html you (or anybody else) can't replace the whole Java Poli

Bug#212863: java-common: New java policy including tools to manage the changes

2003-09-26 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: Here is the discussed proposal java policy as txt and also as tar.gz archive, including all written scripts and manpages As I've already mentioned in http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2003/debian-java-200309/msg00124.html you (or anybody else) can't replace the whole Java Pol

Re: libant1.5-java for gjdoc

2003-09-16 Thread Stefan Gybas
Takashi Okamoto wrote: BUILD FAILED file:/home/okamototk/deb/libant1.5-java/build-tree/build.xml:580: /usr/lib/kaffe/share/kaffe not found. Damn, I thought this was fixed in Kaffe 1.1.1-1. I've told Ean about this problem before he uplodaded the new package but he obviously forgot to include the

Re: libant1.5-java for gjdoc

2003-09-16 Thread Stefan Gybas
Takashi Okamoto wrote: BUILD FAILED file:/home/okamototk/deb/libant1.5-java/build-tree/build.xml:580: /usr/lib/kaffe/share/kaffe not found. Damn, I thought this was fixed in Kaffe 1.1.1-1. I've told Ean about this problem before he uplodaded the new package but he obviously forgot to include th

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

2003-09-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: This is a significant rewrite of my previous proposal. To make discussion alittle easier, I've broken the subject line to tell, that this is the third request for discussion. Sorry, I've been away a couple of days when you have posted your proposal so I still need to catch up. I'

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

2003-09-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
Jan Schulz wrote: This is a significant rewrite of my previous proposal. To make discussion alittle easier, I've broken the subject line to tell, that this is the third request for discussion. Sorry, I've been away a couple of days when you have posted your proposal so I still need to catch up. I

Moving packages to main, was Re: CDBS class for Ant

2003-09-01 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: I'll be on holliday until september 9. Stefan, will your ant*.mk be included in the official cdbs package? Yes, they are part of CDBS since version 0.4.5.3, so if you want to make use of ant.mk, you need to add a versioned build dependency to your package. I plan to m

Moving packages to main, was Re: CDBS class for Ant

2003-09-01 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: I'll be on holliday until september 9. Stefan, will your ant*.mk be included in the official cdbs package? Yes, they are part of CDBS since version 0.4.5.3, so if you want to make use of ant.mk, you need to add a versioned build dependency to your package. I plan to mo

Re: Intend to NMU Kaffe 1.1

2003-08-22 Thread Stefan Gybas
Stefan Gybas wrote: Anthony's mail also mentions a liberal policy for NMUs between next Saturday and September 14th. I will therefore NMU Kaffe 1.1.1 next Monday (August 25th) if Ean has not uploaded his package until than. I'll be away a couple of days next week to it will be best

Re: Intend to NMU Kaffe 1.1

2003-08-22 Thread Stefan Gybas
Stefan Gybas wrote: Anthony's mail also mentions a liberal policy for NMUs between next Saturday and September 14th. I will therefore NMU Kaffe 1.1.1 next Monday (August 25th) if Ean has not uploaded his package until than. I'll be away a couple of days next week to it will be best

Re: CDBS class for Ant

2003-08-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Thanks, I'm making progress and did that. As you can see in a private mail (I'll send a complete example when everything will be finished), I do have problems to specify the location of a build.xml file that is not in '.' ;) I've now created an unoffical CDBS package whic

Re: CDBS class for Ant

2003-08-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Thanks, I'm making progress and did that. As you can see in a private mail (I'll send a complete example when everything will be finished), I do have problems to specify the location of a build.xml file that is not in '.' ;) I've now created an unoffical CDBS package which

Moving Ant to main, was Re: Intend to NMU Kaffe 1.1

2003-08-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Takashi Okamoto wrote: So, ant depends on a lot of packages. Should we put them into main in the first for putting ant into main? Almost all of these dependecies are for ant-optional.jar. However, most other Java packages will only need ant.jar to build so I think it makes sense to split ant-1.5.

Moving Ant to main, was Re: Intend to NMU Kaffe 1.1

2003-08-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Takashi Okamoto wrote: So, ant depends on a lot of packages. Should we put them into main in the first for putting ant into main? Almost all of these dependecies are for ant-optional.jar. However, most other Java packages will only need ant.jar to build so I think it makes sense to split ant-1.5

Re: CDBS class for Ant, was Re: [PROPOSAL] dh_ant

2003-08-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Hi Stefan, I'm migrating my libgef-java to CBDS but I do not think you did commit your changes to libcommons-beanutils-java to pkg-java on Alioth? I'd like to see your complete debian/rules and you debian/control files. No, I did not commit the changes, s

Intend to NMU Kaffe 1.1

2003-08-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi! Anthony has posted a release plan for sarge a few hours ago (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html). I'm sure that he will not delay the release because of some Java packages in contrib that did not make it to main in time, so we really

Re: CDBS class for Ant, was Re: [PROPOSAL] dh_ant

2003-08-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Hi Stefan, I'm migrating my libgef-java to CBDS but I do not think you did commit your changes to libcommons-beanutils-java to pkg-java on Alioth? I'd like to see your complete debian/rules and you debian/control files. No, I did not commit the changes,

Intend to NMU Kaffe 1.1

2003-08-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi! Anthony has posted a release plan for sarge a few hours ago (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html). I'm sure that he will not delay the release because of some Java packages in contrib that did not make it to main in time, so we reall

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi Ean, My apologies. We installed a new mail server and I was in a car wreck shortly after so some configuration issues went unattended. I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well enough. I need to verify that I can stop using pthreads. Under 1.0.7 I could not get ant to

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi Ean, My apologies. We installed a new mail server and I was in a car wreck shortly after so some configuration issues went unattended. I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well enough. I need to verify that I can stop using pthreads. Under 1.0.7 I could not get ant to

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
David Goodenough wrote: Surely this says that having explicit runtime-? virtual packages is the wrong way to go. What is needed is that the virtual package has a version and then it can be compared in the normal way. Yes, but unfortunately dpkg does not support versioned Provides: (see #112131),

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
David Goodenough wrote: Surely this says that having explicit runtime-? virtual packages is the wrong way to go. What is needed is that the virtual package has a version and then it can be compared in the normal way. Yes, but unfortunately dpkg does not support versioned Provides: (see #112131),

Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi! I've written a little script to compare the contents of two JARs. I've used it compare Debian packages with upstream binaries so I know that the build process worked fine, for example when using CDBS or Ant and Kaffe from main. I'm posting this here so it's not lost in case I have a harddis

CDBS class for Ant, was Re: [PROPOSAL] dh_ant

2003-08-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
eceive any compaints or suggestions for major changes in the next days. Stefan # -*- mode: makefile; coding: utf-8 -*- # Copyright © 2003 Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # Description: Builds and cleans packages which have an Ant build.xml file # # This program is free software; you can redist

Re: connecting tomcat4 to apache1 in debian/sid

2003-08-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
Michael R Head wrote: It appears that tomcat (3.3) and libapache-mod-jk have left sid. That's true. See #203052 for the reason. libapache-mod-webapp appears to be the only connector available now. I don't care to upgrade to apache2, and since mod-webapp is deprecated, [according to http://jakarta

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-14 Thread Stefan Gybas
Stefan Gybas wrote: Unfortunately, your packages don't work - at least on i386. Building libant1.5-java with your Kaffe package fails. The Ant build process calls itself during the build (and thus starts a JVM) but using JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/kaffe does not compile and classes at all. Th

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