Re: KMail and Debian Packages

2001-12-13 Thread Magnus von Koeller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 we could add dependencies until the cows come home... ie... depends on = version x but not version y and less then version z... but the question is...what good would it do us now? The next version of KDE is 3 and the package names are

Re: KMail and Debian Packages

2001-12-13 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 07:45:23PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: we could add dependencies until the cows come home... ie... depends on = version x but not version y and less then version z... but the question is...what good would it do us now? The next version of KDE is 3 and the

Fwd: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Magnus von Koeller
See my next mail on more thoughts about this. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: KMail and Debian packages Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:04:19 +0100 From: Michael Häckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ivan, We (the KMail team

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Magnus von Koeller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 21 November 2001 18:04, Michael Häckel wrote: If it is really not possible to change that, wouldn't it then be better to leave the whole KDE release in unstable until all packages are ready for testing? Wouldn't making all KDE

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 07:37:30PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2001 18:04, Michael Häckel wrote: If it is really not possible to change that, wouldn't it then be better to leave the whole KDE release in unstable until all packages are ready for testing?

Re: Fwd: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 07:37:28PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: See my next mail on more thoughts about this. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: KMail and Debian packages Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:04:19 +0100 From: Michael Häckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ivan E. Moore II

Re: Fwd: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Magnus von Koeller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 21 November 2001 19:50, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: testing is not meant to be functional at all.  It is meant as a staging ground for our next release. quote testing -- leading edge, maybe buggy, but working /quote

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Magnus von Koeller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 21 November 2001 19:43, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: HELL NO! Whew ... First of all, why don't you cool down a little? It's not that I want to hurt you or even say that you did something wrong. I just want to talk about ways of making

Re: Fwd: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:51:57PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2001 19:50, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: testing is not meant to be functional at all.  It is meant as a staging ground for our next release. quote testing -- leading edge, maybe buggy, but

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:52:09PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2001 19:43, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: HELL NO! Whew ... First of all, why don't you cool down a little? It's not that I want to hurt you or even say that you did something wrong. I just want to

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Magnus von Koeller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay. I get it. Thanks for the explanation. - -- - -M - --- Magnus von Koeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 / 38104 Braunschweig / Germany Phone: +49-(0)531/2094886 Mobile: +49-(0)179/4562940 lp1 on fire (One of

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread James Lindenschmidt
Forgive my newbieness, but it seems you are saying that unstable is actually more stable than testing. Since I am primarily a user who wants a good compromise between stability and currency (in this case, I want KDE 2.2.x), I should actually be running unstable rather than testing? Help out a

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread James Lindenschmidt
Further, at http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/ , it says the following: the testing distribution should be more stable than unstable, but you should be cautious nevertheless. Now I'm really confused . . . ? Thank you all. James Lindenschmidt Spoke Thusly: Forgive my newbieness, but it

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Michael Häckel
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 21:08, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: but the question is...what good would it do us now? The next version of KDE is 3 and the package names are different so putting in hacks (which is all they are) won't do a bit of good. Maybe also the package names for KDE 2.1 and

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
I would have to say that overall for the time that testing has been in place unstable has been more stable in my opinion. Usually when unstable breaks it's fixed within 24-48 hours...when testing breaks it usually stays broken for quite some time depending on what is broken. Testing has the

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Marc Branchaud
Ivan E. Moore II wrote: I would have to say that overall for the time that testing has been in place unstable has been more stable in my opinion. Usually when unstable breaks it's fixed within 24-48 hours...when testing breaks it usually stays broken for quite some time depending on what

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Fred K Ollinger
I would have to say that overall for the time that testing has been in place unstable has been more stable in my opinion. Usually when unstable breaks I don't know. I ran unstable once. It killed my whole system. There was a fix, but only for developers, it was too hard for a humble desktop

Re: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread Brian Bilbrey
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:24:09PM -0500, James Lindenschmidt wrote: Forgive my newbieness, but it seems you are saying that unstable is actually more stable than testing. Since I am primarily a user who wants a good [snip] I run stable on my edge servers, no X, no problems. For my

Re: Fwd: KMail and Debian packages

2001-11-21 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wednesday 21 November 2001 11:56 am, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:51:57PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2001 19:50, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: testing is not meant to be functional at all.  It is meant