Re: Multi-tasking

Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > All I can suggest is to recompile your kernel with the following features: > 1) Use 1000HZ for Kernel Timer Frequency (I highly recommend it) > 2) Enable Kernel Preemption for Low Latency Desktops > 3) Use "Preempt The BIG Kernel Lock" > 4) Use CFQ as the I/O scheduler T

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Am Sonntag 02 Juli 2006 21:03 schrieb Ritesh Raj Sarraf: > You're using a laptop. So I guess you're just another use like me. You > won't be running database daemons or other server daemons on the > laptop. > > All I can suggest is to recompile your kernel with the following > features: 1) Use 100

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Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 12:57 schrieb David Martínez Moreno: > El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 11:50, Alejandro Exojo escribió: > > I have an Athlon 800, and when I download my email, kmail blocks > > completely, and doesn't refreshes until spamassassin finishes processing > > at least the cur

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Alejandro Bárcena Campos wrote: >> just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and >> there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it >> ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the >> official web-interface gives the same

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Thanks a lot for the answers and the effort. In fact I searched with kernel (as it worked before) and hadn't the reflex to search with "source". Sorry for the chatter.. Rigo Am Monday 03 July 2006 10:03, sprach Michael Thaler: > The debian kernel sources for 2.6 kernels are in sid. It is call

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El Lunes, 3 de Julio de 2006 09:59, Rigo Wenning escribió: > just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and > there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it > ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the > official web-in

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rigo Wenning wrote: > Nice tip, > > just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and there > was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it ;) I > thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but

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On Monday 03 July 2006 09:59, Rigo Wenning wrote: > Nice tip, > > just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and > there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it > ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the > official

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Nice tip, just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the official web-interface gives the same result. A stock kernel will

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Matej Cepl on Wednesday 28 Jun 2006 08:39 wrote: > Hi, > > I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I do > not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE > has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed it

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El Jueves, 29 de Junio de 2006 20:31, Raúl Sánchez Siles escribió: > I currently use the deadline scheduler, do you think using another > schedule would improve things¿? Staircase scheduler rocks all the way, and also CFQ2 for I/O. But they're only available in CK patch i use here :) -- Rafael

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First of all, thank you very much for your answer. El Jueves, 29 de Junio de 2006 10:20, Dietz Proepper escribió: > Raúl Sánchez Siles: > > > In this situation, I have tried doing top on a konsole, and I find > > that the field "wa" in the above part of the top report, in the middle > > of "id

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Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > Wouldn't it make much sense if debian had two kernel pakages? One suited > for desktop and one for server? I guess it should be about time by now to > have such concerns. Maybe that would be a sugestion for utnubu crew? That's bug# 375845

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On Wednesday 28 June 2006 09:20, Matej Cepl wrote: > Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > > have you tried to compile yourself a kernel. I think that the debian > > packages of kernels have a default behavior of server. From the 2.6 > > kernels, there's an option in the multitask about preemptive or

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Raúl Sánchez Siles: > Here is something I have always liked to asks but I hadn't had the > chance. The problem is that on my job PC, I use reiser over a LVM over a > SATA disk. When I have some disk intensive tasks/intervals, my system > turns not as responsive as I wish and as I think should be.

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* Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Jun 28 15:02 -0500]: > Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone > >> filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? > > > > I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we sha

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El Miércoles, 28 de Junio de 2006 13:24, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) escribió: > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:30, André Wöbbeking wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:15, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > > > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Is anything

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Nate Bargmann wrote: >> So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone >> filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? > > I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what > happens. And if they add to this version of kernel also

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> So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone > filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what happens. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successf

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> So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone > filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what happens. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successf

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> So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then? Has anyone > filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what happens. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successf

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Matej Cepl skrev: Why, oh why I haven't asked this question before (using Linux for almost six years and never suspected that my kernel configuration is anything than perfect)? :'( Thanks a lot, I have recompiled kernel with CONFIG_PREEMPT and it seems to be really *much* more responsive. Why is

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Leopold Palomo Avellaneda skrev: A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen va escriure: Matej Cepl skrev: on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes almost to halt (and it is not that bad computer --

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André Wöbbeking wrote: > I sometimes have this problem and thought that it's related to SATA. But > I'm using reiserfs3. Do you've more infos about its problems under high > load. No, the problem was non-preemptive kernel -- this is just plain ext3 notebook (no fancy server filesystems here). Mat

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Hi, Your computer should work fine with all the given suggestions. But if you want to improve your desktop experience even more, try Con Kolivas kernel patch: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ Here, I can compile several things at the same time while listening to music with Amar

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Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > have you tried to compile yourself a kernel. I think that the debian > packages of kernels have a default behavior of server. From the 2.6 > kernels, there's an option in the multitask about preemptive or server. A > preemptive kernel has a better "feeling" for th

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* Leopold Palomo Avellaneda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Jun 28 06:53 -0500]: > A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen va escriure: > > Matej Cepl skrev: > > > on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux > > > (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes alm

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Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > have you tried to compile yourself a kernel. I think that the debian > packages of kernels have a default behavior of server. From the 2.6 > kernels, there's an option in the multitask about preemptive or server. A > preemptive kernel has a better "feeling" for th

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Alejandro Exojo wrote: > Which kernel are you using? I always run the default debian kernel, and I > noticed that the responsiveness of the desktop improved a lot in some 2.6 > release (i suppose because the scheduler was different). hand-compiled vanilla+suspend2 2.6.17.1 Thanks for the reply,

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El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen escribió: > Pretty much the only thing that comes to my mind is if you are running a > kernel that has been compiled with the 'preemptible kernel' option. s/with/without/ > Without a preemptible kernel, the desktop experience is not as g

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On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:30, André Wöbbeking wrote: > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:15, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl wrote: > > > Hi, > > Is anything trying to write/read large amounts of data when this > > happens? if so you might want to: >

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On Wednesday 28 June 2006 13:48, David Martínez Moreno wrote: > > The last option is learning some C++, Qt, and KDE internals, and get > wet with the code. I'm sure help is always welcome :-) But I don't think that anythink is changed in 3.5.x. We have to wait until KDE 4. Cheers, André

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El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 13:28, Frans Pop escribió: > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:57, David Martínez Moreno wrote: > > That is the most annoying KMail feature I have seen, and I find > > unbelievable that KMail developers hadn't taken care of it yet. It > > is...two years old? Three?

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A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen va escriure: > Matej Cepl skrev: > > on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux > > (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes almost to halt (and > > it is not that bad computer -- Dell Inspiron 2200 notebook w/

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On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:57, David Martínez Moreno wrote: > That is the most annoying KMail feature I have seen, and I find > unbelievable that KMail developers hadn't taken care of it yet. It > is...two years old? Three? And it makes KMail unuseable with a > spamassassin configured with

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El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 11:50, Alejandro Exojo escribió: > I have an Athlon 800, and when I download my email, kmail blocks > completely, and doesn't refreshes until spamassassin finishes processing at > least the current email, but if I switch to another application, it works > very well

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Matej Cepl skrev: on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes almost to halt (and it is not that bad computer -- Dell Inspiron 2200 notebook w/ Celeron 1.4GHz, 512MB RAM). I believe that Linux should have perfect multi-

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ody > > explain why KDE has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I > > have noticed it for long time, but couple of days I was working on > > Windows XP and running something terribly complicated with Access, > > it was running completely out of its mind, but when I

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On Wednesday 28 June 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl wrote: > Hi, > > I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I > do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why > KDE has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed it

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El Miércoles, 28 de Junio de 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl escribió: > Hi, > > I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I > do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE > has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have

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than the server. Regards, Leo A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl va escriure: > Hi, > > I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I > do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE > has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is

Multi-tasking

Hi, I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed it for long time, but couple of days I was working on Windows XP and running