Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-24 Thread David Pashley
Michael Stucki said, and I quote: > Hi Chris, > > > > So is it just me or was not everyone aware that Debian takes long with > > > packages > > > and you are not going to get them righ away. If you want that then you > > > should > > > try Redhat. I installed KDE3 on a RedHat box and its not all

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-23 Thread Michael Stucki
Hi Chris, > > So is it just me or was not everyone aware that Debian takes long with > > packages > > and you are not going to get them righ away. If you want that then you > > should > > try Redhat. I installed KDE3 on a RedHat box and its not all that > > diffrent or > > great, its a little bi

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-23 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:13:05PM -0400, Quenten Griffith wrote: > So is it just me or was not everyone aware that Debian takes long with > packages > and you are not going to get them righ away. If you want that then you > should > try Redhat. I installed KDE3 on a RedHat box and its not all th

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-18 Thread Greg C. Madden
On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 14:13, Quenten Griffith wrote: > So is it just me or was not everyone aware that Debian takes long with > packages > and you are not going to get them righ away. If you want that then you > should > try Redhat. snip According to the kde developers no bug fixes are being done

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-16 Thread Quenten Griffith
So is it just me or was not everyone aware that Debian takes long with packages and you are not going to get them righ away. If you want that then you should try Redhat. I installed KDE3 on a RedHat box and its not all that diffrent or great, its a little bit fast and has a few new nice tools and

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-16 Thread David Pashley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 15 April 2002 6:10 pm, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Monday 15 April 2002 16:03, Mark Brown wrote: > > > Packaging KDE is significantly more difficult than most other packaging > > > tasks. KDE depends on many libraries which all have to work tog

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-16 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
måndagen den 15 april 2002 18.43 skrev Eray Ozkural: > I disagree with that. Applying a patch doesn't require any working > knowledge of programming. Your second point may be important for some > software that needs it. I modified insight a lot, and changed some stuff in > metis, yes I do think th

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Eray Ozkural
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 15 April 2002 20:42, Russell Coker wrote: > > Really? Ivan and I must have done a damn good job then if it's no longer > necessary to do such things! > > When I was doing most of the Debian packaging of KDE I was going way beyond > the confi

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:43, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Monday 15 April 2002 15:41, Russell Coker wrote: > > To do a really good job of developing Debian packages (and to have a hope > > of doing a half-decent job of packaging something as complex as KDE) you > > need to do a lot more. You need to be

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Eray Ozkural
On Monday 15 April 2002 16:03, Mark Brown wrote: > > Packaging KDE is significantly more difficult than most other packaging > > tasks. KDE depends on many libraries which all have to work together, > > and compilation takes ages. > > Let me think of an example of a package which it ought to be ea

Re: When will it be ready? (fwd)

2002-04-15 Thread Eray Ozkural
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 15 April 2002 12:51, Sylvain Joyeux wrote: > I agree withyou when it comes to flaming _every_ person who > asks something related to the kde3 packages. Here Eray > don't just ask, he says that Chris Cheney is not 'fast > enough" because it's

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Eray Ozkural
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 15 April 2002 15:41, Russell Coker wrote: > > To do a really good job of developing Debian packages (and to have a hope > of doing a half-decent job of packaging something as complex as KDE) you > need to do a lot more. You need to be able t

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:41:27PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:46, Eray Ozkural wrote: > > Packaging KDE for a particular platform is not too difficult. It is simply > Packaging KDE is significantly more difficult than most other packaging > tasks. KDE depends on many l

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:46, Eray Ozkural wrote: > I'd like to increase the clue factor of this mailing list a bit. > > Disclaimer: I don't have the time to waste with flames, so buzz off if you > intend to. I don't care about those kind of responses that I'm used to > seeing on debian mailing lists.

Re: When will it be ready? (fwd)

2002-04-15 Thread Sylvain Joyeux
I agree withyou when it comes to flaming _every_ person who asks something related to the kde3 packages. Here Eray don't just ask, he says that Chris Cheney is not 'fast enough" because it's "very easy" to build kde packages. As Ben just said, it's far from a good thing to say something like

Re: When will it be ready? (fwd)

2002-04-15 Thread Johannes Wilm
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:16:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Johannes Wilm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: When will it be ready? I understand that the packagers are under a lot of pressure, but why does everybody who just asks som

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Ben Burton
> It IS more difficult to package kde in debian, simply > because KDE3 for mandrake and other distributions is about > 40 packages, and KDE2 is more than 180 packages in debian And because debian has $n$ different ports where $n$ is sufficiently large to cause frequent major headaches. And beca

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread Sylvain Joyeux
Le Lundi 15 Avril 2002 05:46, Eray Ozkural a écrit : > However, it is not in any way *more* difficult than > packaging it for other distributions. So you do have the > right to yell if we're not able to keep standard software > up-to-date. Debian policy is not something that puts > extreme demands

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-15 Thread ben
On Sunday 14 April 2002 08:46 pm, Eray Ozkural wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to increase the clue factor of this mailing list a bit. > > Disclaimer: I don't have the time to waste with flames, so buzz off if you > intend to. I don't care about those kind of r

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-14 Thread Eray Ozkural
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to increase the clue factor of this mailing list a bit. Disclaimer: I don't have the time to waste with flames, so buzz off if you intend to. I don't care about those kind of responses that I'm used to seeing on debian mailing lists. On Su

Re: When will it be ready?

2002-04-14 Thread Richard Shaw
People have been getting progressively angrier about the frequency with which this is asked, so being calm by nature I'll answer it. I'll quote Mr Daniel Stone. 'The packages are coming very soon; most every module has a working directory, but kdebase's is still broken; that's what Chris is workin

When will it be ready?

2002-04-14 Thread John Purser
Guys, I was wondering what the timetable was for the release of the KDE 3.0 .deb. You see I'm really concerned you're not taking the timing as seriously as you should be. I mean all I hear is how you're hurrying to finish this and that really worries me. You see if I knew enough to recover from