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Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
Sean Kellogg writes: > On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: > > [Please also avoid Cc:ing me, since I am subscribed to debian-legal...] > > Noted... though, my mail client handles such things. You appear to be using KMail. You should use the “reply to list” feature, which

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Sean Kellogg writes: > On Monday 04 January 2010 09:15:20 am Michael Poole wrote: >> Sean Kellogg writes: >> >> > You can object all you want. I'm not say that choice-of-venue clauses >> > are somehow "great"... just saying that aren't prohibited by the >> > DFSG. The DFSG does not give you every

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 11:33:15 am Walter Landry wrote: > Sean Kellogg wrote: > > On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: > >> [While you are at it, could you please set a sane wrap value? Long > >> lines in your e-mail messages are unpractical to read on web archives > >>

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 03:07:23PM -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote: > This choice-of-venue discussion looks like it won't get consensus soon, and > it is getting us away from the original thread topic. > How about we try this? Let's assume for a moment that choice-of-venue is > both acceptable and

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:16:43 -0800 Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > [While you are at it, could you please set a sane wrap value? Long > > lines in your e-mail messages are unpractical to read on web archives > > and to reply to...] > > T

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Walter Landry
Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: >> [While you are at it, could you please set a sane wrap value? Long >> lines in your e-mail messages are unpractical to read on web archives >> and to reply to...] > > The archive looks fine [1], The official a

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Marco d'Itri wrote: > nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: > >>How about we try this? Let's assume for a moment that choice-of-venue is >>both acceptable and allowed by the DFSG. Then look at the *rest* of the >>cal.h license terms instead of continuing the argument about this one. > > As explained, t

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Nicolas Alvarez writes: > MJ Ray wrote: >> I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being >> acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, >> thinking we can fight it when needed and ignorance. > > This choice-of-venue discussion looks like it won't get con

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: >How about we try this? Let's assume for a moment that choice-of-venue is >both acceptable and allowed by the DFSG. Then look at the *rest* of the >cal.h license terms instead of continuing the argument about this one. As explained, the license does not really ma

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
mdpo...@troilus.org wrote: >The usual argument is that choice of venue violates DFSG #5 by >discriminating against people who live outside the venue. Is there some The usual argument of the DFSG revisionists is that everything is a restriction or a discrimination, so it's not really helpful. --

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
MJ Ray wrote: > I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being > acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, > thinking we can fight it when needed and ignorance. This choice-of-venue discussion looks like it won't get consensus soon, and it is getting u

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 09:15:20 am Michael Poole wrote: > Sean Kellogg writes: > > > You can object all you want. I'm not say that choice-of-venue clauses > > are somehow "great"... just saying that aren't prohibited by the > > DFSG. The DFSG does not give you everything you want, only what you

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:28:32 -0800 Sean Kellogg wrote: > > > [dropping pkg-boinc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org as I don't think they > > care about this...] > > [Yes, I agree.] > [Please also avoid Cc:ing me, since I am subscribed to d

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Sean Kellogg writes: > You can object all you want. I'm not say that choice-of-venue clauses > are somehow "great"... just saying that aren't prohibited by the > DFSG. The DFSG does not give you everything you want, only what you > need :) The usual argument is that choice of venue violates DFSG

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 06:36:26 am Michael Poole wrote: > Anthony W. Youngman writes: > > > In message <20100104123153.65a79f7...@nail.towers.org.uk>, MJ Ray > > writes > >>I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being > >>acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considerin

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 04:31:53 am MJ Ray wrote: > Sean Kellogg wrote: > > > Moreover, in the present case, I think that I honestly stated that the > > > DFSG-freeness of choice of venue clauses is controversial and then I > > > provided my own personal opinion, *explicitly* labeling it as such.

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Anthony W. Youngman writes: > In message <20100104123153.65a79f7...@nail.towers.org.uk>, MJ Ray > writes >>I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being >>acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, >>thinking we can fight it when needed and ignorance.

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20100104123153.65a79f7...@nail.towers.org.uk>, MJ Ray writes I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, thinking we can fight it when needed and ignorance. Actually, I believe choice-of-venue

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread MJ Ray
Sean Kellogg wrote: > > Moreover, in the present case, I think that I honestly stated that the > > DFSG-freeness of choice of venue clauses is controversial and then I > > provided my own personal opinion, *explicitly* labeling it as such. [...] > > The problem with this line of argument is that i