Re: free source code which requires non-free tools to build (dscaler modules for tvtime)

2003-09-09 Thread David Starner
* That which is in main must be buildable and usable solely with packages also in main (IOW, main is a closure); Really? Does that mean that the Windows specific parts of GCC must be removed from the tarball? Or does it only apply to programs, so if coreutils provides a 1k helper program that

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-29 Thread David Starner
There are just two points in this flow, where intentional (not as side effect of other considerations) efforts (not including no-doing) to remove inapropriate texts can be qualified otherwise: begin (author), and end (reader, user). All other should be considered censorship. So if you get a

Re: Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-27 Thread David Starner
But this is irrelevant. It is enough that _law_ (majority of existed copyright laws) makes this difference. What differences the law, made by people who never heard of free software and probably had their pen guided by people from large proprietary software companies, is of little

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-27 Thread David Starner
Yes, of course. And while copyright _really_, not formally, affects only professional distributors, there was little or no problem with copyright. Problems begins, when copyright grow so large, that it affect the rights and interests of users and authors. I don't understand how copyright has

Re: Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-27 Thread David Starner
Fedor Zuev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we would have the old, 1904-1912-style copyright laws, there would be much less problems with copyright. For example, the computer software become copyrightable only in the late 70-s - early 90-s, after 30+ years of free existense. And if that

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-25 Thread David Starner
Fedor Zuev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Documentation in not a software. This has been refuted so many times. What about help2man, which turns software into documentation? What about the numerous other times documentation is embedded into source code or source code is embedded into documentation?

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-25 Thread David Starner
Fedor Zuev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if you take Acrobat, remove, say, the Adobe EULA, and distribute the rest, it will be censorship or, at least, very similar. Because you conceal from users the information from creator, that they reasonable expect to receive from you. Against the will

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-25 Thread David Starner
Fedor Zuev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes How about a license which allowed off-topic code (say, a 'hangman' game in the 'ls' program) which must be present unmodified in source code of all derived versions, and must be invoked (perhaps through a command-line option) by every derived program?

Re: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-24 Thread David Starner
Brian T. Sniffen, on 2003-08-22, 13:54, you wrote: [...] Whew, I though this was a list for serious discussion, but some participants obviously have to reach a certain age first... *plonk* Joerg I, for one, didn't find his argument juvenile at all. I agree with him; you answered the

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-24 Thread David Starner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 === CUT HERE === Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an X the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-11-06 Thread David Starner
then it would be correct, but would be wrong if considered in British English. ] ‘affect’ and ‘effect’ is a distinction made by American English — as is ‘insure’ and ‘ensure’, for that matter. I see ‘ensure’ much more often then ‘insure’ in American English. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great

Re: Aspell-en license Once again.

2002-11-05 Thread David Starner
. [...] That is bullshit. Quit fighting strawmen, or shut up. [...] More BS. Until you can settle down I'm not going to discuss this with you. I notice how you cut your writing which he was replying to. It certainly helped making your response seem justified. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: Aspell-en license Once again.

2002-11-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:24:31PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] I notice how you cut your writing which he was replying to. It certainly helped making your response seem justified. Sorry, justified? What I meant, was that Branden cut all his

Re: Aspell-en license Once again.

2002-11-04 Thread David Starner
wordlists are probably going to have significant differences in the set of words included. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great is the battle-god, great, and his kingdom-- A field where a thousand corpses lie. -- Stephen Crane, War is Kind

Re: Aspell-en license Once again.

2002-11-04 Thread David Starner
‐defined meaning, it has a well‐defined spelling and currently common usage among a reasonably large group of people. That’s a creative decision there. Is ‘virii’ an acceptable spelling? Is ‘bakress’? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great is the battle-god, great, and his kingdom-- A field where

Re: ldp-es_20002103-7_i386.changes REJECTED

2002-10-31 Thread David Starner
, and the upstream held to that reading. Contrary to what people might think, not only can I chance the license of version X, I can change the license of version X minus 1, X minus 2, X minus 3... You can certainly offer it under a new license; but normally you can't retract the old license. -- David

Re: ldp-es_20002103-7_i386.changes REJECTED

2002-10-29 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:41:29AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:30:37PM -0600, David Starner wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:06:46PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Iff the author authorised a translation, the translation *can

Re: ldp-es_20002103-7_i386.changes REJECTED

2002-10-28 Thread David Starner
with that copyright. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great is the battle-god, great, and his kingdom-- A field where a thousand corpses lie. -- Stephen Crane, War is Kind

Re: Fwd: GNU VCG

2002-10-17 Thread David Starner
-format files, which can be manipulated by other programs (say, an ad-hoc Perl script, or a program from Evil-Evil Soft), they want to link in VCG. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Falshe fridn iz beser vi a rikhtige krig. / A bad peace is better than a good war. - Yiddish Proverb

Re: Fwd: GNU VCG

2002-10-16 Thread David Starner
, might actually use that data in a non-approved way. They might forget to put a license on their perl script, say. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Falshe fridn iz beser vi a rikhtige krig. / A bad peace is better than a good war. - Yiddish Proverb

Re: Free documentation using non-free preprocessor

2002-10-10 Thread David Starner
we'll be doing any real changes to it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Falshe fridn iz beser vi a rikhtige krig. / A bad peace is better than a good war. - Yiddish Proverb

Re: license questions.

2002-10-09 Thread David Starner
+ 80 years (e.g. Columbia). See http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/okbooks.html. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Falshe fridn iz beser vi a rikhtige krig. / A bad peace is better than a good war. - Yiddish Proverb

Re: Re: license questions.

2002-10-07 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Falshe fridn iz beser vi a rikhtige krig. / A bad peace is better than a good war. - Yiddish Proverb

Re: TeX Licenses teTeX (Was: Re: forwarded message from Jeff Licquia)

2002-08-08 Thread David Starner
At 04:56 PM 8/8/02 -0400, Boris Veytsman wrote: Thomas, the wishes of Knuth need not to be divined. He expressed them quite clearly. Why do not you read some FAQ, say, http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=TeXfuture You think that's clear? The only thing pertinent to the argument, and

Re: MP3 decoders' non-freeness

2002-08-06 Thread David Starner
At 08:49 PM 8/5/02 -0400, Joe Drew wrote: On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 14:49, Joe Drew wrote: Has there been any resolution of this issue? Is it safe to close these bugs? It seems there has been no resolution, but this is an issue we cannot afford to ignore. Why? Honestly, we won't be the first to

Bug#155396: ITP: iso-codes -- Collection of ISO code lists and their translations

2002-08-04 Thread David Starner
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-04 Severity: wishlist * Package name: iso-codes Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Alastair McKinstry [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.saorleir.com/iso-codeshttp://www.saorleir.com/iso-codes * License :

Re: libreadline

2002-05-08 Thread David Starner
problem is that OpenSSL is the bad guy, This is debatable (and note that you don't have to be infatuated with the GPL to become involved with Debian), and off topic. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] What we've got is a blue-light special on truth. It's the hottest thing with the youth

Re: CUPS and OpenSSL

2002-05-04 Thread David Starner
it would be better to drop the last six lines; legally, all it can do is complicate any dispute. However, in any situation not involving lawyers filing brief and counter brief with a judge, it's the same thing. I don't see any problem with it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit

Re: linux gpl question

2002-04-26 Thread David Starner
. Assuming that the copyright violator was stupid enough to go that far; all GPL license questions have been settled out of court, because getting hauled into court is an expensive risky proposition. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have

Re: linux gpl question

2002-04-26 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 04:53:24PM -0600, John Galt wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, David Starner wrote: A patch to a program is a derivative work of the program, in most cases. Hence, you need permission of the copyright owner to distribute it; lacking direct permission (rather painful

Re: linux gpl question

2002-04-25 Thread David Starner
it out. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have it you're on the other side. - K's Choice (probably referring to the Internet) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: linux gpl question

2002-04-25 Thread David Starner
to a program is a derivative work of the program, in most cases. Hence, you need permission of the copyright owner to distribute it; lacking direct permission (rather painful for the kernel), you have to distribute it under the GPL if you distribute it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit

Re: EDICT, GPL

2002-04-24 Thread David Starner
, and the GPL is a decent lazy-man's way of applying them. What exactly was the question here? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have it you're on the other side. - K's Choice (probably referring to the Internet) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: EDICT, GPL

2002-04-24 Thread David Starner
.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have it you're on the other side. - K's Choice (probably referring to the Internet) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: openssl and GPL

2002-04-21 Thread David Starner
] accompanies the executable. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have it you're on the other side. - K's Choice (probably referring to the Internet) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Crypto++ licencing

2002-04-20 Thread David Starner
code without a copyright statement and objecting when people use it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have it you're on the other side. - K's Choice (probably referring to the Internet) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Legal status of chess game collections

2002-04-13 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not a habit; it's cool; I feel alive. If you don't have it you're on the other side. - K's Choice (probably referring to the Internet) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#131997 acknowledged by developer (Bug#131997: fixed in glut 3.7-12)

2002-02-15 Thread David Starner
swirl. We don't care about modifying GLUT source code on the hard drive; we need to know we can modify it and distribute it. -- David Starner / Давид Старнэр - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org What we've got is a blue-light special on truth. It's the hottest thing

Re: license evaluation

2002-02-15 Thread David Starner
not. Was there anything you were worried about? -- David Starner / Давид Старнэр - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org What we've got is a blue-light special on truth. It's the hottest thing with the youth. -- Information Society, Peace and Love, Inc.

Re: Bug#131997 acknowledged by developer (Bug#131997: fixed in glut 3.7-12)

2002-02-12 Thread David Starner
to be included in the package. -- David Starner / Давид Старнзр - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org What we've got is a blue-light special on truth. It's the hottest thing with the youth. -- Information Society, Peace and Love, Inc.

Re: Bug#131997 acknowledged by developer (Bug#131997: fixed in glut 3.7-12)

2002-02-12 Thread David Starner
Apparently, the maintainer of Glut hasn't been changed yet. So I'll cc you directly. (Sorry for the extra copies, James.) On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 02:41:21PM -0600, David Starner wrote: reopen 131997 thanks * GLUT headers and examples are actually DFSG free, see debian/copyright

Re: The old DFSG-lemma again...

2001-11-06 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:51:12AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: This would mean that we would have to stop distributing the Emacs manual, which has always contained such invariant sections. As has the GCC manual, at least since 1994. (Funding Free Software) -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: Fwd: Re: License of OPP and smith#

2001-10-30 Thread David Starner
than him possibly not being the person who posted it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less. - Disciple, Stuart Davis

Re: APL LGPL GPL

2001-10-28 Thread David Starner
, right? Debian has so far ignored that clause, since many of us feel that it leads to too many questions to be worth it, and that it's fundamentatly a copout for a Free OS to use it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face

Re: Mp3-decoders also patented?

2001-10-23 Thread David Starner
heard, it only covers encoding, and Fraunhofer is making idle threats about decoding. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less

Re: OpenOffice and Java

2001-10-22 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 12:10:10PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Oct 21, David Starner wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 02:58:22PM +0400, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: With current jdk license it cannot be put in non-free, right? In this case, openoffice cannot be put in main nor in contrib

Re: OpenOffice and Java

2001-10-21 Thread David Starner
are not in our archive at all for compilation or execution (interesting that it can't require a package in non-us, but it can require one not in the archive.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each

Re: xfig-doc has license problems in examples

2001-10-16 Thread David Starner
significant creative work to make. Why wouldn't it be copyrightable? I don't see why it's any different from any other textual work of the same size and creative effort. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my

Re: DFSG status of DFARS clause?

2001-10-15 Thread David Starner
Raadt having to follow the GPL, and that was Bruce Peren's opinion at the time.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less. - Disciple

Re: xfig-doc has license problems in examples

2001-10-15 Thread David Starner
suggest starting with the documentation for gcc, just to get to the heart of the matter. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less

Re: xfig-doc has license problems in examples

2001-10-15 Thread David Starner
tidbits in Debian main already. Like licenses. Licenses have always been declared out of territory, since there's no need to modify them, and we don't want to argue with various authors over the license of the license. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http

Re: Licence for free ttf fonts - open source enough?

2001-10-13 Thread David Starner
that in countries other than the US, you can assert copyright on bitmap fonts. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less. - Disciple, Stuart Davis

Re: Licence for free ttf fonts - open source enough?

2001-10-12 Thread David Starner
/Windows programming communities (especially pre-97 or so.) Note the large number of free MetaFont fonts. We just need to convince font people that they should release under free licneses. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my

Re: Licence for free ttf fonts - open source enough?

2001-10-12 Thread David Starner
as is. There's also a clause about not changing the name. Since we have a clause specifically permitting forcing a name change, I'd say that not permitting a name change would be disallowed restricting modification. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw

Re: Licence for free ttf fonts - open source enough?

2001-10-12 Thread David Starner
Licences? This could encourage artists to publish their work under these licenses. Is it really nessecary? Personally, for fonts, I was going to recommend either a simple, BSDish license, or the Araphic Font license. An Open Art License shouldn't be created unless there's actually a need. -- David

Re: Licence for free ttf fonts - open source enough?

2001-10-12 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I saw a daemon stare into my face, and an angel touch my breast; each one softly calls my name . . . the daemon scares me less. - Disciple, Stuart Davis

Re: RFC about copyrights and right package section for W3C docs.

2001-09-20 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 10:01:55PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't see the distinction. Are icons metadata? The name almost certainly is . . . but we made a special exception for name changes in the DFSG. Icons are not metadata. The author

Re: RFC about copyrights and right package section for W3C docs.

2001-09-20 Thread David Starner
sections of text in some GNU Free Documentation License'd texts that can not be modified - for example, Funding Free Software in the gcc manual. Is that DFSG-free or otherwise permissable in main? If it is, then what about other unmodifiable texts? Where's the line, and why? -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: RFC about copyrights and right package section for W3C docs.

2001-09-18 Thread David Starner
licenses. But I don't see how that matters. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: Adpcm code--is this licence free?

2001-09-18 Thread David Starner
of reasoning. Whether or not HP does it makes no difference to us. Even it currently being in Debian is no proof of it being acceptable; every so often we come across a license that has been in Debian for years, but that isn't DFSG. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http

Re: RFC about copyrights and right package section for W3C docs.

2001-09-16 Thread David Starner
, if it is to apply to documentation and RFC's, modificiation must be allowed. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: Cactvs-license

2001-09-14 Thread David Starner
). The univ. considers itself to be a copyright holder, and this was the only way to get any distribution rights. He didn't answer the non-free question yet, though. Huh? That's an answer to the non-free question, right there. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http

Public domain fonts?

2001-09-11 Thread David Starner
. and no license in the copyright string (this one seems to be much later than the rest - labeled 1997) and one that's broken and license-less. I realize I can't package the last two; what about the rest of them. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't

Re: Public domain fonts?

2001-09-11 Thread David Starner
interpretation of the license. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: License Issues of Interchange Documentation

2001-08-03 Thread David Starner
(so long as the ftp-masters don't objec.t) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The pig -- belongs -- to _all_ mankind! - Invader Zim

Re: request

2001-05-10 Thread David Starner
through the mud again, to possibly take out a very minor competitor. I think these messages have gotten beyond the point of productivity, and this should be my last one. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name

Re: (un)published works and email re: Email Archive Request

2001-05-08 Thread David Starner
such notice. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: request

2001-05-05 Thread David Starner
the subscribers agree with; it is the way the developers like it, and if you don't want your posts archived, don't post. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather

Re: request

2001-05-05 Thread David Starner
, don't use a permanent medium like email. Try calling next time. Once you've made a permanent copy, be it on paper or hard disk, it's permanent. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs

Re: request

2001-05-04 Thread David Starner
. That was in no FAQ. There's a lot more than just technical content in the email. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: license for a mix of free sw + propritary stuff

2001-04-30 Thread David Starner
is, or did he just pick it because everyone else uses it? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Public Domain in Russia

2001-04-30 Thread David Starner
anything about the copyright status? (I may be going a little paranoid here, but this upstream isn't careful in dealing with copyright issues, and the description sounds a little suspicious. What does extracurial mean, and what did he mean it to mean, anyway?) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: gnomerar

2001-04-30 Thread David Starner
or threats. If you aren't using icons from winrar, they don't have a foot to stand on. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: fortunes-atheist copyright again (would be FW: Re: copyright)

2001-04-27 Thread David Starner
that are absurd in these conditions. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: Keyspan Firmware fun

2001-04-26 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:33:09AM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: Copyright (c) 1995-2000 FORE Systems, Inc., as an unpublished work. This This is what gets me. It's being distributed, in some cases by permanant media, to millions of random people, and it's unpublished? -- David Starner

Preferred form of work Re: Keyspan Firmware fun

2001-04-26 Thread David Starner
, some company releases one of the old Commodore or NES games under a GPL license, but doesn't release the source. Does it matter that a number of people can and are hacking on the binary? Does it make any difference if the source has been lost by now? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless

Re: ITP: ttf-japanese-kandata

2001-04-26 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: Preferred form of work Re: Keyspan Firmware fun

2001-04-26 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-04-24 Thread David Starner
a module or the kernel itself). If they don't want their hardware supported, that's their problem. If you want it, you either have a choice of downloading the code, or using a distribution that doesn't care as much about licenses, like Mandrake. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless

Re: Libapache-mod-backhand: load balancing Apache requests.

2001-04-19 Thread David Starner
using it without permission, and they ignored the a cease-and-disest we sent them. Unless you've let others use the trademark in defiance of your license (which worries me about Linux(tm)), it should be a simple case. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I

Re: License for fortunes?

2001-04-18 Thread David Starner
expression. In this case, the creative expression is the choice of which quotes to add to the file and which not to add. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather

Re: ITP: libtext-chasen-perl - ChaSen binding for perl

2001-04-06 Thread David Starner
by the user. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg pgp8QjdwA7YYs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-05 Thread David Starner
, or just not work the way you want. Which are really the same reasons you want to able to modify code. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-05 Thread David Starner
everything but modifications) wouldn't lock you into to a propriatary and expensive channel either. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread David Starner
ideological person would say freedom). -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: Fwd: FilterProxy and DFSG-compliancy?

2001-03-08 Thread David Starner
of whether we approve of the use or not. (IMO, it sucks; if you want to remove pornongraphy from stuff coming into your system, you should be able to, and your kids or employees can deal.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my

Re: [Steve Lidie Stephen.O.Lidie@Lehigh.EDU] Re: xodometer licensing

2001-02-26 Thread David Starner
-free is moot. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg pgpj3bNboFX3W.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: libcompface license (again)

2001-02-22 Thread David Starner
. Do you need more from me than just this email? I don't think so, but I'd better let ouer legal people decide that. Thanx! That's all we need. Thanks! -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my

Re: MasterMind(r)

2001-02-19 Thread David Starner
writing can be copyrighted, but the rules themselves can't be.) Note that Debian has (at least) two games with the same rules as Othello, named GNOME Iagno and Kreversi. Follow that example and you should be all right. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I

Re: libcompface's license

2001-02-18 Thread David Starner
the no monies part mean you can't charge money for the act of distributing libcompface? It seems obvious to me. Is there some reason you have for reading it another way? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name

Re: ITP: Arazilla

2001-02-17 Thread David Starner
are also non-free, but passable, though the license is absurd (there's no reverse-engineering needed, for crying out loud!) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd

Re: Bug#85072: freeamp: contains non-free arial.ttf

2001-02-06 Thread David Starner
a freeamp.rpm including arial.ttf, and - contrary to Debian - they are for-profit. (3) is the only sane solution, and it needs to be done ASAP. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me

Re: Bug#84395: ITP: z81 - Sinclair ZX8[01] emulator

2001-02-01 Thread David Starner
, or do they have to go in non-free too? (And if they can go in contrib, should I split z81get into a fifth package so that it can go in contrib too?) You have to find a copy of the actual license. I don't think Debian can include it without an actual copy of the license. -- David

Re: is the license of gsview okay?

2001-01-30 Thread David Starner
to be bound by all of its terms and conditions. This is the only part that seems non-free. If I read this right, it's a restriction on distribution Debian can't satisfy even in non-free; we would have to make sure anyone we distributed to agreed before we gave them a copy. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: New licence for cryto++ code-base

2001-01-28 Thread David Starner
notice. This is the only thing that's unusual, and I don't see why it would be non-DFSG-free. (It might be unenforcable, but that's his problem.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread David Starner
them to be distributed under the same terms as the license implies being able to restrict people from distributing them under different terms; the patch clause (#4)) are specified in the DFSG. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recovering from a hard drive crash - website down

Re: software under QPL 1.0

2000-12-09 Thread David Starner
fine. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS pgp1IJv7k3Utf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: DDP's document licenses

2000-12-08 Thread David Starner
, particularly suited or not. If you don't like the license, then ask the author to change it. No need for formality. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS

Re: DDP's document licenses

2000-12-07 Thread David Starner
text). Also as a pragmatic issue, we need the rights to redistrubite at no cost, on any media and sell the document on CD's. If some one needs free document licenses, why don't we just point them to GNU? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org (You see, the best way to solve

Re: Licensing woes

2000-12-06 Thread David Starner
: program support). Violates DFSG #5 (Fields of Endeavor: commerical purposes). You might want to point out how vague commerical purposes is. If it can't be used in a buisness, then that's a big issue. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org (You see, the best way to solve

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