Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-28 Thread Nathanael Nerode
I propose something like the following as an addition to the Debian web pages, at the bottom of http://www.debian.org/intro/free. I offer this up for revision and use by the Debian community, or anyone else. Motivation: some people seem to wish to remain in denial about the project's decision

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030828 08:35]: > I propose something like the following as an addition to the Debian web > pages, at the bottom of http://www.debian.org/intro/free. I offer this > up for revision and use by the Debian community, or anyone else. > [ put on the web pages "G

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-28 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-28 02:10]: > Motivation: some people seem to wish to remain in denial about the > project's decision on this matter. This will help their psychological > problem. ;-) It is no good for the (what I know) still unfinished discussion on that topic i

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-28 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is no good for the (what I know) still unfinished discussion on > that topic if want to spread even more FUD as there is already about > it. For what it's worth, I think the "discussion" on d-l will end only when the participants die of exhaustion.

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-28 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:00:12AM -0400, Jeremy Hankins wrote: > For what it's worth, I think the "discussion" on d-l will end only > when the participants die of exhaustion. I believe Brandon will > announce the results of the d-l poll today (unless he has already and > I haven't gotten to it).

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-28 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:00:12AM -0400, Jeremy Hankins wrote: >> For what it's worth, I think the "discussion" on d-l will end only >> when the participants die of exhaustion. I believe Brandon will >> announce the results of the d-l poll today (un

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-28 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 04:22, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-28 02:10]: > > Motivation: some people seem to wish to remain in denial about the > > project's decision on this matter. This will help their psychological > > problem. ;-) > > It is no good fo

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-29 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030829 00:05]: > Andreas Barth wrote: > >I don't think it's good manners to try to push a certain view by > >putting it on the web sites. No, first finish the discussion in d-l, > >and the you _might_ put additions on the web site. (Though I think > >it's eve

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: >I don't think it's good manners to try to push a certain view by >putting it on the web sites. No, first finish the discussion in d-l, >and the you _might_ put additions on the web site. (Though I think >it's even then not the right place for that; but that's a different >poi

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-29 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-08-29 15:09:53 +0100 Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The discussion _has_ been finished for quite a while. All we are seeing now is people who haven't bothered to read the last few years of debian-legal. Apologies for my part in that. I think it does take some effort to see

Re: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL

2003-08-29 Thread Walter Landry
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030829 00:05]: > > Andreas Barth wrote: > > >I don't think it's good manners to try to push a certain view by > > >putting it on the web sites. No, first finish the discussion in d-l, > > >and the you _might_ put add

Licence oddity in Securing Debian Manual (was: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL)

2003-08-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I propose something like the following as an addition to the Debian web > pages, at the bottom of http://www.debian.org/intro/free. I offer this > up for revision and use by the Debian community, or anyone else. > > Motivation: some people seem t

Re: Licence oddity in Securing Debian Manual (was: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL)

2003-08-28 Thread Branden Robinson
[Rick, apologies for the CC if you are subscribed to this list.] On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:54:31AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > This reminded me of something I noticed earlier today. The Securing > Debian Manual at > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ has in its > front materi

Re: Licence oddity in Securing Debian Manual (was: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL)

2003-08-29 Thread Joe Moore
Branden Robinson said: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:54:31AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: >> This reminded me of something I noticed earlier today. The Securing >> Debian Manual at >> All well and good, so far. Appendix H of the Manual, in >> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-c

Re: Licence oddity in Securing Debian Manual (was: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL)

2003-08-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Joe Moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Perhaps a simple license clarification from Alexandre? Did he intend to > dual-license this work under the GPL? He turns out to have been unaware of the potential for licence conflict, but is happy to dual-licence his work, so the problem is now solved.

Re: Licence oddity in Securing Debian Manual (was: Proposed addition to Debian web pages re: GNU FDL)

2003-08-30 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 03:57:36PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Joe Moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Perhaps a simple license clarification from Alexandre? Did he intend to > > dual-license this work under the GPL? > > He turns out to have been unaware of the potential for licence conflict,