Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-10-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 01:10 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit : On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:38:56 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 22 septembre 2007 à 13:18 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : The whole license is CPL-based. Indeed. I guess that settles the issue. I have to

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-10-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:38:56 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 22 septembre 2007 à 13:18 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : The whole license is CPL-based. Indeed. I guess that settles the issue. I have to disagree. Unfortunately I do not have the time to do a detailed license

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-23 Thread MJ Ray
Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:52:46PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Patent retaliation clause, applicable to patents unrelated to the software. IIRC this was already declared non-free. Comments from other on this? /me hoping your memory is faulty

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Josselin Mouette: 8. GENERAL If Recipient institutes patent litigation against a Contributor with respect to a patent applicable to software (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit), then any patent licenses granted by that Contributor to such Recipient under this Agreement

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 22 septembre 2007 à 13:18 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : The whole license is CPL-based. Indeed. I guess that settles the issue. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 02:38:56PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: The whole license is CPL-based. Indeed. I guess that settles the issue. Many thanks guys then! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- PhD in Computer Science ... now what? [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%-

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 22 septembre 2007 à 12:06 -0400, Joe Smith a écrit : I'm not sure I understand what this clause means. What if there is no jury for the trial? All this means is that should a trial arise, neither side will request a jury to decide the questions of Fact. If no jury is requested,

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:52:46PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Short summary, two potential freeness issues: * the contributor indemnification clause, * the patent retaliation clause. Thanks Josselin and Ben for the replies so far. This clause is really borderline. It could be

is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ please cc-me on replies, I'm not subscribed, thanks! ] Hi guys, I'm considering packaging Galax [1], which is licensed under the terms of the Lucent Public License Version 1.0 [2]. Is that license considered DFSG-free? AFAICT it is DFSG-free. Besides it is also OSI approved (though I haven't

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-20 Thread Ben Finney
Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ please cc-me on replies, I'm not subscribed, thanks! ] Done. Hi guys, I'm considering packaging Galax [1], which is licensed under the terms of the Lucent Public License Version 1.0 [2]. Is that license considered DFSG-free? Unlike the OSI, we

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-20 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ please cc-me on replies, I'm not subscribed, thanks! ] Done. = Lucent Public License Version 1.0 ... 2. GRANT OF RIGHTS a.Subject to the terms of this Agreement, each Contributor hereby grants

Re: is the lucent public license DFSG-free?

2007-09-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Short summary, two potential freeness issues: * the contributor indemnification clause, * the patent retaliation clause. Le vendredi 21 septembre 2007 à 00:03 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : 2. GRANT OF RIGHTS This section is OK. 3. REQUIREMENTS B. Each Distributor must include