On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 03:49:53PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> [I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not
> sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please
> CC me on replies, if possible.]
>
> Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build depe
> Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or
> non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of
> the licencing issues.
>
> Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really
> satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:00:47PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or
> > non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of
> > the licencing issues.
> >
> > Because of that, this particular dependency w
> Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to
> install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also
> means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe
> there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the
> j2sdk1.3 is a
Hi,
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 01:47, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > Mmm, another idea, java is supposed to be arch-independant bytecode, so
> > you should maybe build your package arch: all instead of arch: any.
>
> Oh, I forgot to mention that... nbio is a JNI-based package (it
> provides non-blocking
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly
> doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report?
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html
> That way we at least know about the issue.
>
> Also Kaff
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java.
Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...]
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly
> doesn't work wi
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 03:12:52AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java.
> Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...]
>
> > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> > gij (GNU In
Hi,
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 10:12, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java.
> Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...]
>
> > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> > gij (GNU Interprete
> "Kenneth" == Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kenneth> The gij java runtime would not work for my test case (just
Kenneth> some simple server/client pairs that come with the nbio
Kenneth> distribution)
Bummer.
Kenneth> The error I got from gij (below my signature) it a little
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:58:45PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they complain
> about a missing j2se-common.
Add main to sources.list along with non-free.
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On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:21:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > In the original version of my package, I just listed a Depends on
> > java-common. Is this still appropriate, even though I know that not
> > every package that provides java-common will work with my package?
Hi
java-common is NOT
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:43:10PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:21:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > In the original version of my package, I just listed a Depends on
> > > java-common. Is this still appropriate, even though I know that not
> > > every package that p
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sven> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they
Sven> complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same
Sven> package as java-common ?
Someone else already metioned it but you needto add main to you
bacldow
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 07:49:10AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote:
> > "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sven> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they
> Sven> complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same
> Sven> package as java-common ?
> > You should list the working package first :
> >
> > working-java | java-common
>
> And it should look like this instead.
>
> working-jvm | java-virtual-machine.
Ok. I will change it to:
Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common
Is this correct?
KEN
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Hi KEN,
> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth Pronovici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:10 AM
> To: Ola Lundqvist; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?
>
> $ apt-cache show kaffe
> ..snip..
> Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime
>
> So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency
> for kaffe.
Ok, that makes sense.
KEN
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>>>>> "okamototk" == okamototk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi KEN,
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kenneth Pronovici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:10 AM
>> To: Ola Lundqvist; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sven> Yes, thanks it works fine (altough the postinst try to
Sven> install the plugin to mozilla-cvs, which does not exist and
Sven> thus the postinst fails)
Hmm, I'll have to look at that.
Sven> Which GR ? The one about remo
> If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the
> default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you
> should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual one.
>
> If kaffe works for Kenneth, I guess his Depends line is fine. By
Hi
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:10:04AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > > You should list the working package first :
> > >
> > > working-java | java-common
> >
> > And it should look like this instead.
> >
> > working-jvm | java-virtual-machine.
>
> Ok. I will change it to:
>
>Depen
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> > Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?
> > Ok. I will change it to:
> >
> >Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common
> >
> > Is this correct?
>
> $ apt-cache show kaffe
> ..snip..
> Provides: java-virtu
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:52:00PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the
> > default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you
> > should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual o
Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY
appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take
one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement.
Parts of this thread (which is now a week+ long) have gotten lost along
the way :), so to su
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ola> This looks good if you only need a virtual machine and it
Ola> works with kaffe. But you most probably need a java1-runtime
Ola> to run it (not jus kaffe) so you should add that too (if you
Ola> need the runtime classes).
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:16:21AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have addressed
> everyone's concerns with this Depends line:
>
>Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime, java-common
>
> Can everyone agree that this i
Hi
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:16:21AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY
> appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take
> one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement.
>
> Parts of th
Hi
Correcttion to myself. Sorry.
*SNIP*
> If you change java-runtime to java1-runtime it is perfectly correct.
>
> > Can everyone agree that this is correct? If not, can someone suggest a
> > line that will satisfy everyone?
>
> But you do not need to depend on any of the above except java-com
> From policy:
> "Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime and/or
>java2-runtime) but should not depend (only suggest) java-virtual-machine."
Right. I will use this:
Depends: kaffe | java1-runtime, java-common
Suggests: java-virtual-machine
I think tha
Stephen> Also, WTF is with all the "Architecture: all' -java packages
Stephen> that only depend on java-common? While I guess they're
Stephen> installable without a java runtime on this system, they're a
Stephen> completely unusable in that sate.
I made this point when Ola discussed the java pol
Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more on topic.
> "Ian" == Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> gcj can compile java bytecode into native code. So
Ian> Architecture: all java libraries can be used for development
Ian> purposes without an interpreter.
> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stephen> Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more
Stephen> on topic.
Excpet that I forgot to actually set the header. Bah.
--
Stephen
"And what do we burn apart from witches?"... "More witches!"
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> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have
>> addressed everyone's concerns with this Depends line:
>>
>> Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime,
>> java-common
Ola> If you chan
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 03:49:53PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> [I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not
> sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please
> CC me on replies, if possible.]
>
> Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build depe
> Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or
> non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of
> the licencing issues.
>
> Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really
> satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:00:47PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or
> > non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of
> > the licencing issues.
> >
> > Because of that, this particular dependency w
> Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to
> install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also
> means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe
> there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the
> j2sdk1.3 is a
Hi,
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 01:47, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > Mmm, another idea, java is supposed to be arch-independant bytecode, so
> > you should maybe build your package arch: all instead of arch: any.
>
> Oh, I forgot to mention that... nbio is a JNI-based package (it
> provides non-blocking
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly
> doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report?
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html
> That way we at least know about the issue.
>
> Also Kaff
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java.
Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...]
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly
> doesn't work wi
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 03:12:52AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java.
> Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...]
>
> > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> > gij (GNU In
Hi,
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 10:12, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java.
> Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...]
>
> > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with
> > gij (GNU Interprete
> "Kenneth" == Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kenneth> The gij java runtime would not work for my test case (just
Kenneth> some simple server/client pairs that come with the nbio
Kenneth> distribution)
Bummer.
Kenneth> The error I got from gij (below my signature) it a little
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:21:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > In the original version of my package, I just listed a Depends on
> > java-common. Is this still appropriate, even though I know that not
> > every package that provides java-common will work with my package?
Hi
java-common is NOT
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:43:10PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:21:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > In the original version of my package, I just listed a Depends on
> > > java-common. Is this still appropriate, even though I know that not
> > > every package that p
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:58:45PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they complain
> about a missing j2se-common.
Add main to sources.list along with non-free.
--
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sven> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they
Sven> complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same
Sven> package as java-common ?
Someone else already metioned it but you needto add main to you
bacldow
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 07:49:10AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote:
> > "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sven> BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they
> Sven> complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same
> Sven> package as java-common ?
> > You should list the working package first :
> >
> > working-java | java-common
>
> And it should look like this instead.
>
> working-jvm | java-virtual-machine.
Ok. I will change it to:
Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common
Is this correct?
KEN
--
Kenneth J. Pronovic
Hi KEN,
> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth Pronovici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:10 AM
> To: Ola Lundqvist; debian-java@lists.debian.org;
> debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?
>
> $ apt-cache show kaffe
> ..snip..
> Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime
>
> So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency
> for kaffe.
Ok, that makes sense.
KEN
--
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Personal Homepage: http://www.sk
.debian.org;
>> debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?
>> Ok. I will change it to:
>>
>> Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common
>>
>> Is this correct?
> $ apt-cache show kaffe
> ..snip.
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sven> Yes, thanks it works fine (altough the postinst try to
Sven> install the plugin to mozilla-cvs, which does not exist and
Sven> thus the postinst fails)
Hmm, I'll have to look at that.
Sven> Which GR ? The one about remo
> If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the
> default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you
> should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual one.
>
> If kaffe works for Kenneth, I guess his Depends line is fine. By
Hi
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:10:04AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > > You should list the working package first :
> > >
> > > working-java | java-common
> >
> > And it should look like this instead.
> >
> > working-jvm | java-virtual-machine.
>
> Ok. I will change it to:
>
>Depen
debian.org;
> > debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?
> > Ok. I will change it to:
> >
> >Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common
> >
> > Is this correct?
>
> $ apt-cache show kaffe
> ..sn
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:52:00PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> > If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the
> > default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you
> > should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual o
Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY
appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take
one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement.
Parts of this thread (which is now a week+ long) have gotten lost along
the way :), so to su
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ola> This looks good if you only need a virtual machine and it
Ola> works with kaffe. But you most probably need a java1-runtime
Ola> to run it (not jus kaffe) so you should add that too (if you
Ola> need the runtime classes).
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:16:21AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have addressed
> everyone's concerns with this Depends line:
>
>Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime, java-common
>
> Can everyone agree that this i
Hi
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:16:21AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY
> appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take
> one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement.
>
> Parts of th
Hi
Correcttion to myself. Sorry.
*SNIP*
> If you change java-runtime to java1-runtime it is perfectly correct.
>
> > Can everyone agree that this is correct? If not, can someone suggest a
> > line that will satisfy everyone?
>
> But you do not need to depend on any of the above except java-com
> From policy:
> "Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime
> and/or java2-runtime) but should not depend (only suggest)
> java-virtual-machine."
Right. I will use this:
Depends: kaffe | java1-runtime, java-common
Suggests: java-virtual-machine
I think
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have
>> addressed everyone's concerns with this Depends line:
>>
>> Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime,
>> java-common
Ola> If you chan
Stephen> Also, WTF is with all the "Architecture: all' -java packages
Stephen> that only depend on java-common? While I guess they're
Stephen> installable without a java runtime on this system, they're a
Stephen> completely unusable in that sate.
I made this point when Ola discussed the java pol
Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more on topic.
> "Ian" == Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> gcj can compile java bytecode into native code. So
Ian> Architecture: all java libraries can be used for development
Ian> purposes without an interpreter.
> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stephen> Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more
Stephen> on topic.
Excpet that I forgot to actually set the header. Bah.
--
Stephen
"And what do we burn apart from witches?"... "More witches!"
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