Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi Correcttion to myself. Sorry. *SNIP* If you change java-runtime to java1-runtime it is perfectly correct. Can everyone agree that this is correct? If not, can someone suggest a line that will satisfy everyone? But you do not need to depend on any of the above except java-common if

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Stephen Also, WTF is with all the Architecture: all' -java packages Stephen that only depend on java-common? While I guess they're Stephen installable without a java runtime on this system, they're a Stephen completely unusable in that sate. I made this point when Ola discussed the java policy.

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more on topic. Ian == Ian Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian gcj can compile java bytecode into native code. So Ian Architecture: all java libraries can be used for development Ian purposes without an interpreter. Yes, and I

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Stephen == Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stephen Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more Stephen on topic. Excpet that I forgot to actually set the header. Bah. -- Stephen And what do we burn apart from witches?... More witches! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Ola == Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have addressed everyone's concerns with this Depends line: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime, java-common Ola If you change java-runtime to

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Ola == Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ola This looks good if you only need a virtual machine and it Ola works with kaffe. But you most probably need a java1-runtime Ola to run it (not jus kaffe) so you should add that too (if you Ola need the runtime classes). While I

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:16:21AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have addressed everyone's concerns with this Depends line: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime, java-common Can everyone agree that this is

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:16:21AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement. Parts of this

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi Correcttion to myself. Sorry. *SNIP* If you change java-runtime to java1-runtime it is perfectly correct. Can everyone agree that this is correct? If not, can someone suggest a line that will satisfy everyone? But you do not need to depend on any of the above except java-common if

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
From policy: Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime and/or java2-runtime) but should not depend (only suggest) java-virtual-machine. Right. I will use this: Depends: kaffe | java1-runtime, java-common Suggests: java-virtual-machine I think that

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Ola == Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, here's my (hopefully) final question. I think I have addressed everyone's concerns with this Depends line: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, kaffe | java-runtime, java-common Ola If you change java-runtime to

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Stephen Also, WTF is with all the Architecture: all' -java packages Stephen that only depend on java-common? While I guess they're Stephen installable without a java runtime on this system, they're a Stephen completely unusable in that sate. I made this point when Ola discussed the java policy.

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more on topic. Ian == Ian Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian gcj can compile java bytecode into native code. So Ian Architecture: all java libraries can be used for development Ian purposes without an interpreter. Yes, and I

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Stephen == Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stephen Followups set to debian-java where this is a little more Stephen on topic. Excpet that I forgot to actually set the header. Bah. -- Stephen And what do we burn apart from witches?... More witches!

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement. Parts of this thread (which is now a week+ long) have gotten lost along the way :), so to

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:58:45PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they complain about a missing j2se-common. Add main to sources.list along with non-free. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:21:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: In the original version of my package, I just listed a Depends on java-common. Is this still appropriate, even though I know that not every package that provides java-common will work with my package? Hi java-common is NOT a

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:43:10PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:21:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: In the original version of my package, I just listed a Depends on java-common. Is this still appropriate, even though I know that not every package that provides

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Zander
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sven BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they Sven complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same Sven package as java-common ? Someone else already metioned it but you needto add main to you bacldown mirror

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 07:49:10AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sven BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they Sven complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same Sven package as java-common ? Someone else

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
You should list the working package first : working-java | java-common And it should look like this instead. working-jvm | java-virtual-machine. Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici [EMAIL

RE: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread okamototk
Hi KEN, -Original Message- From: Kenneth Pronovici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:10 AM To: Ola Lundqvist; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied? Ok. I will change

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
$ apt-cache show kaffe ..snip.. Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency for kaffe. Ok, that makes sense. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Homepage:

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Ganesan R
okamototk == okamototk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi KEN, -Original Message- From: Kenneth Pronovici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:10 AM To: Ola Lundqvist; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:43:10PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:21:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: In the original version of my package, I just listed a Depends on java-common. Is this still appropriate, even though I know that not every package that provides

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:58:45PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they complain about a missing j2se-common. Add main to sources.list along with non-free. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Zander
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sven BTW, i have tried to install the J2sdk1.4 packages, but they Sven complain about a missing j2se-common. Is this the same Sven package as java-common ? Someone else already metioned it but you needto add main to you bacldown mirror

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
You should list the working package first : working-java | java-common And it should look like this instead. working-jvm | java-virtual-machine. Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici [EMAIL

RE: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread okamototk
Hi KEN, -Original Message- From: Kenneth Pronovici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:10 AM To: Ola Lundqvist; debian-java@lists.debian.org; debian-mentors@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied? Ok. I will change

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
$ apt-cache show kaffe ..snip.. Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency for kaffe. Ok, that makes sense. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Homepage:

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Ganesan R
-depends cannot be satisfied? Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? $ apt-cache show kaffe ..snip.. Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Zander
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sven Yes, thanks it works fine (altough the postinst try to Sven install the plugin to mozilla-cvs, which does not exist and Sven thus the postinst fails) Hmm, I'll have to look at that. Sven Which GR ? The one about removing

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual one. If kaffe works for Kenneth, I guess his Depends line is fine. By the

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:10:04AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: You should list the working package first : working-java | java-common And it should look like this instead. working-jvm | java-virtual-machine. Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe |

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Joel Baker
: Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied? Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? $ apt-cache show kaffe ..snip.. Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly doesn't work with

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 03:12:52AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 10:12, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU Interpreter for

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Tom Tromey
Kenneth == Kenneth Pronovici [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kenneth The gij java runtime would not work for my test case (just Kenneth some simple server/client pairs that come with the nbio Kenneth distribution) Bummer. Kenneth The error I got from gij (below my signature) it a little out Kenneth

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly doesn't work with

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 03:12:52AM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 10:12, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU Interpreter for

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Tom Tromey
Kenneth == Kenneth Pronovici [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kenneth The gij java runtime would not work for my test case (just Kenneth some simple server/client pairs that come with the nbio Kenneth distribution) Bummer. Kenneth The error I got from gij (below my signature) it a little out Kenneth

j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build dependency on j2sdk1.3 cannot be satisfied on all 13 platforms?

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 03:49:53PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of the licencing issues. Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build the

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:00:47PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of the licencing issues. Because of that, this particular dependency will never

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the j2sdk1.3 is

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 01:47, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: Mmm, another idea, java is supposed to be arch-independant bytecode, so you should maybe build your package arch: all instead of arch: any. Oh, I forgot to mention that... nbio is a JNI-based package (it provides non-blocking I/O

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report? http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html That way we at least know about the issue. Also Kaffe,

j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build dependency on j2sdk1.3 cannot be satisfied on all 13 platforms?

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 03:49:53PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of the licencing issues. Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build the

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:00:47PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of the licencing issues. Because of that, this particular dependency will never

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the j2sdk1.3 is

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 01:47, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: Mmm, another idea, java is supposed to be arch-independant bytecode, so you should maybe build your package arch: all instead of arch: any. Oh, I forgot to mention that... nbio is a JNI-based package (it provides non-blocking I/O

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report? http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html That way we at least know about the issue. Also Kaffe,