Re: Debian Menu transition

2007-08-05 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Allombert wrote: >> I'm trying to figure out where most of the apps from xbase-clients >> should go in the new menu structure, since they all used to be in >> Apps/Tools, and I don't see anything obvious. I suppose xeyes could go >> in some subs

Re: menu section for games like billiard and mini-golf.

2007-08-05 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Allombert wrote: > I wonder whether we should add a new menu sections for games like > billiard and mini-golf that require precision but no reflex. I moved all sports games that we have in Debian Games Team repository to "Simulation", and nobody

Re: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Gilbert wrote: > is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update > itself? Not sure about The Policy, but I can see a lot of reasons why this should not be done: 1. The md5 sums will not match anymore, so one cannot ve

Re: debian logo on commercial of the big mobilephones shops network

2006-11-22 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: > Hi! I live in the second capital of Russian Federation - > Saint-Petersburg. Some time ago one of the largest mobilephones shops > network made an advertisement of their support with debian logo. There Interesting. Could you t

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-06-20 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Jon Dowland wrote: >> ++ Contrib/Applications >> ++ Contrib/Games >> ... >> ++ Non-free/Applications >> ++ Non-free/Games > > I think that could be confusing when packages migrate between > main,contrib,non-free. I don't know how often that happens. No, it is confusing because user would

Re: [SPAM?]: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-19 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Frank Küster wrote: > Currently, the free plotting/fitting programs I know of are in fact > clearly different from spreadsheets, because they lack a decent user > interface for data manipulation. But that may change (it was promised > for a future version of grace, and I have not yet checked out

Re: [SPAM?]: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-17 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Frank Küster wrote: >> I have only located a single medicine-related application, but there are >> more in other sections. The whole bunch of gnumed-* packages is a good >> example. > > That may be a general problem (or feature). I have none installed, but > I guess there might be a couple of me

Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-16 Thread Linas Žvirblis
I went on and made a list of applications that are currently found in "Science" [science] and another one with these applications roughly sorted into sections [science_sorted]. The short version: Analysis [10] Astronomy [12] Biology [16] Chemistry [11] Geoscience [5] Medicine [1] Physics [

Re: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-16 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Frank Küster wrote: > That's a nice exercise, but the interesting question is whether we > actually have enough *packages* so that their creation makes sense. Quite frankly, I do not (yet) know if there is a need for each subsection I listed, but there is no reason for not being forward compatib

Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-15 Thread Linas Žvirblis
I actually find splitting "Science" a good idea. I did a little research and came up with this list of possible subsections, along with example fields they cover: Astronomy * Astrodynamics * Astronomy * Astrophysics * Cosmology * Radio astronomy Biology * Anatomy * Bioinformatics * Botan

Re: Bug#361418: Moving the NCBI programs in a subsection of Applications/Science

2006-05-15 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Would "Tools from NCBI" be any better? No, it too long, and it still does not explain what NCBI is. That said, I do not think that there is anything wrong with calling it "NCBI" (or maybe "NCBI tools"). As much as a biologist cannot be expected to know what GDB and SVN are,

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-05-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Daniel Leidert wrote: > This is not completely true. It defines categories and sub-categories. > There is also a structure. But I agree, that it does not explicitly > define/propose a structure. But I also meant, that you should maybe > think about to be compatible with their category naming. I d

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-11 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Eduard Bloch wrote: > Yep. WRT you said above, what abot renaming "WindowManagers/Modules" to > "$wm Modules" (one level above WM starters and indicating which > "modules" are meant by that). One more thing to consider is that if we will have to to move/rename modules in the future (current situa

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-10 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Ben Finney wrote: >> Yes, but they are only shown if you run a VM they belong to. Being a >> user of a VM that uses modules, you can be expected to know what >> they are. > > I don't believe that's true; you seem to be conflating "user" with > "person who installs the software". Most users of a c

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-09 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Ben Finney wrote: > One is the assumption that only one window manager will be installed > on the computer. What if three window managers are installed: > > - window manager M, which uses its own modules > - window manager N, which use sits own modules > - window manager L, which has no con

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-09 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Eduard Bloch wrote: >> Window Managers [was:WindowManagers] >> Modules [was:WindowManagers/Modules] > > I cannot see the reason for this change. "Modules" can stand for any > kind of modules (kernel, X11, software components) however this section > was explicitely preserved for Window manager rel

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-08 Thread Linas Žvirblis
"Data Management" is not a new section. It was previously named "Databases", as seen in "translate_menus". My mistake, sorry. - Data Management [new] - Interactive database programs, collection - managers, bibliography tools etc. - gaby, alexandria, mdbtools + Data Management [was:Databases]

Re: Debian Menu policy leads to confusion

2005-12-11 Thread Linas Žvirblis
I don't think we should exclude them from Apps/Science without bothering to provide an alternative (they would end up in misc, wouldn't they?). So either we create Apps/Science/humanities, or we change the description of the Science section so that social sciences and humanities are allowed in.

Re: Debian Menu policy leads to confusion

2005-12-10 Thread Linas Žvirblis
While I am at it, here is an update. Hope you will find it useful. Draft 0.2 [2005-12-10] (Only covers Apps) Draft 0.1 [2005-12-08] (Only covers Apps) Legend: [!] Unmodified [M] Modified [+] New [?] Need more information and/or unsure about what to do with it Apps (normal applications): [+] Se

Debian Menu policy leads to confusion

2005-12-07 Thread Linas Žvirblis
, but I have a very rough draft of my vision of menu structure and would gladly complete it, if there is interest in such document. Yours faithfully, Linas Žvirblis P.S. I am new to these mailing lists, so forgive me if I missed something obvious. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED