Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 02:46 +0100 2/23/2001, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: If I get some time tomorrow, I'll repackage it as a macbinary, and a tarball containing a macbinary. All versions of stuffit (included with macos) and other free tools can decode macbinary (but not all versions of stuffit can decode the tarb

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 17:40 -0900 2/22/2001, Ethan Benson wrote: stuffit 5 was not only made to damage mindvision, but i am certain the massive changes in the file format were done because they knew thier long proprietary format was cracked. if they mean no harm to mindexpander then they would document thier filef

Re: BootX + zvmlinux

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 06:35:04PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sorry, no good. It wouldn't even show on the menu. :( > > So, BootX doesn't "execute" the kernel, is that why the embedded decompressor > doesn't work? Probably just copy the image to memory and a stack pointer? what you are tryin

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 07:08:00PM -0600, Jonathan Wight wrote: > On 02/22/2001 17:49, "Ethan Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:28:04PM -0500, Advertising wrote: > > > > all the problems you describe are the fault of Aladdin and thier > > proprietary crap product

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:10:14PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > because the self extracting archive in and of itself must be encoded > > since the MacOS uses a exectuable format that cannot survive on > > anything but the HFS filesystem. since its encoded you need stuffi

Re: BootX + zvmlinux

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > >Is there a way to get BootX to work with compressed kernels? > > > >BTW, zvmlinux is from `make zImage` and in arch/ppc/boot > > I've not looked at that bit of source for long, but it's possible that > the special miboot image works with BootX. You can also try

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>On 02/22/2001 17:49, "Ethan Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:28:04PM -0500, Advertising wrote: >> >> all the problems you describe are the fault of Aladdin and thier >> proprietary crap product and monopolistic practices. > >With all respect, that is nonsense. An

BootX + zvmlinux

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
Is there a way to get BootX to work with compressed kernels? BTW, zvmlinux is from `make zImage` and in arch/ppc/boot

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Jonathan Wight
On 02/22/2001 17:49, "Ethan Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:28:04PM -0500, Advertising wrote: > > all the problems you describe are the fault of Aladdin and thier > proprietary crap product and monopolistic practices. With all respect, that is nonsense. Any proble

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
Ethan Benson wrote: > > because the self extracting archive in and of itself must be encoded > since the MacOS uses a exectuable format that cannot survive on > anything but the HFS filesystem. since its encoded you need stuffit > expander to extract the self extracting archive. What about the a

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:39:30AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > BinHex encoded MacBinary format files _can_ be created with hfsutils. If > you want more, write a free StuffIf arrchiver for Linux. good luck, Aladdin REFUSES to document the stuffit format, and will not allow anyone to write a

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:28:04PM -0500, Advertising wrote: all the problems you describe are the fault of Aladdin and thier proprietary crap product and monopolistic practices. > > I believe the Stuffit self-expanding archive format works across the > majority of the MacOS spectrum. (much w

Re: Debian Potato on G4/AGP

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:51:51AM -0600, Jonathan Wight wrote: > On 2/22/01 10:45 AM, "Martin Svensson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks, i will try that as soon as possible. But How do i start linux after > > the installation? Must i install yaboot in my system folder? > > > > Best regar

Re: BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Michael Schmitz
> I believe the Stuffit self-expanding archive format works across the > majority of the MacOS spectrum. (much wider that DebianPPC) Is there a > reason not to use that file format for the Debian PowerMac install items? The same reason why zip archives aren't accepted anymore for other architectur

Re: [Q] Upgrading the kernel to run MOL (revisited..)

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 03:23:53PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for the help on binutils-dev > > > see above. you will also need to apply my patch to get it to link > > later. my patch also fixes make install to go into /usr/local where > > it belongs. > > I also found the patc

Re: Debian Potato on G4/AGP

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 05:45:27PM +0100, Martin Svensson wrote: > Thanks, i will try that as soon as possible. But How do i start linux after > the installation? Must i install yaboot in my system folder? of course not, yaboot is not BootX, its not a MacOS program, its an OpenFirmware program, it

RE: Pushing up daisies...

2001-02-22 Thread Leandro Dutra
> From: Mike Fedyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Common Hardware Reference Platform (CHRP)" > > Does that mean that the open specs from IBM have hardware > made from them, or is > this something else? It was the set of standards created for Power PC computers that would be made by vari

Re: [Q] Upgrading the kernel to run MOL (revisited..)

2001-02-22 Thread wcrowshaw
Thanks for the help on binutils-dev > see above. you will also need to apply my patch to get it to link > later. my patch also fixes make install to go into /usr/local where > it belongs. I also found the patches that you mentioned posted in the list archive. After I was finally successful i

Re: mozilla 0.8 from penguinppc and PSM

2001-02-22 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 09:10:10AM -0800, thus said Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick: > >Umm, it works pretty ok for me. It is stable too I think, I dont really > >see much crashes. I just took the build from mozilla.org that includes > >PSM and dumped into my homedir and ran it from there. > > Loadi

BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco.

2001-02-22 Thread Advertising
BootX and the Stuffit Fiasco. In the Debian distribution, BootX is compressed with Aladdin's Stuffit application. Since Apple includes a working copy of StuffitExpander on most of its OS cds, it is the de facto compression standard on the Macintosh Platform. If a Mac is still running, chances

Re: netscape ??

2001-02-22 Thread Grant Miller
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 06:52:33PM +0100, Eric Deveaud wrote: > > Hello, > > i'm just finishing to install the powerbook (pismo) of my boss. > > she want's to be abble to use netscape. > > when I apt-get install netscape (or communicator or wathever) > I get the following error > Sorry th

netscape ??

2001-02-22 Thread Eric Deveaud
Hello, i'm just finishing to install the powerbook (pismo) of my boss. she want's to be abble to use netscape. when I apt-get install netscape (or communicator or wathever) I get the following error Sorry the following packages have unmet dependencies: netscape: Depends: communicator

Re: more mozilla 0.8 fun (java plugin)

2001-02-22 Thread Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick
At 3:23 PM +1100 2/22/01, Ross Hamilton wrote: >Blackdown's JDK 1.3 (a "final release candidate" from around ten days >ago) is in /usr/local, along with the required OpenMotif package. Well, I'm using the JDK 1.3 PL1 release from penguingppc.org I note in the release notes, it mentions: - once

Re: mozilla 0.8 from penguinppc and PSM

2001-02-22 Thread Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick
>Umm, it works pretty ok for me. It is stable too I think, I dont really >see much crashes. I just took the build from mozilla.org that includes >PSM and dumped into my homedir and ran it from there. Loading regular HTTP pages works fine for me, and I agree it is fairly stable (no worse than Netsc

Re: Debian Potato on G4/AGP

2001-02-22 Thread Jonathan Wight
On 2/22/01 10:45 AM, "Martin Svensson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, i will try that as soon as possible. But How do i start linux after > the installation? Must i install yaboot in my system folder? > > Best regards > Martin Read the install guide at http://www.debian.com/ports/powerpc a

RE: Debian Potato on G4/AGP

2001-02-22 Thread Martin Svensson
Thanks, i will try that as soon as possible. But How do i start linux after the installation? Must i install yaboot in my system folder? Best regards Martin -Original Message- From: Ethan Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 22 februari 2001 09.36 To: 'debian' Subject: Re: Debian P

install problem on a 7600

2001-02-22 Thread Matthew M Carroll
I am running a 7600 with a powerlogix g3 upgrade card and a voodoo3. I did successfully get through the install, but I upgraded to sid which was a little too unstable for me :]. So I wiped everything and started over, but now when I run bootx to get the install going it loads the ramdisk but finds

IBM PS820 & Debain

2001-02-22 Thread Ronny Greifenhain
Hi debians, may I introduce myself: I'm a 20 year old trainee in a german IT-Company. I'm a newbie in the Linux-"Business" but I thinks this OS is going to inspire me more and more.. Now, here is my question: I've got a old (1994) IBM-Thinkpad (PowerPC) Power Series 820. My problem is that I cou

VNC

2001-02-22 Thread Jonathan Wight
Hey, I'm trying to make a headless vncserver box and am having mild difficulties. I'm using the vncthing vnc client on the mac to connect. I'm connecting fine and I can run an xterm or test apps like xclock/xeyes. And it is sort of working - however I'm getting a lot of graphics corruption. For

Re: mozilla 0.8 from penguinppc and PSM

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:49:53AM -0500, jeramy b smith wrote: > > Would someone like to post potato comaptible debs of stuff like moz and other > newer/cooler stuff? someone should really get in touch with the debian mozilla maintainer and find out if he plans to package 0.8, or anything newe

Re: mozilla 0.8 from penguinppc and PSM

2001-02-22 Thread jeramy b smith
Would someone like to post potato comaptible debs of stuff like moz and other newer/cooler stuff? Kevin Puetz has posted some debs of X at one time before the ppc diffs made it into woody and people enjoyed using them. I've even told Hadess I would host his Ximian stuff if he wanted. Just let

Re: Debian Potato on G4/AGP

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 08:25:19AM +0100, Martin Svensson wrote: > Hm.. I have the same problem as you. I can't get the kernel to boot. yaboot > boots fine, but when i run the kernel to install debian the system freezes > homehow. When i downloaded yellowdoglinux and booted from their cd they have

Debian PC and PPC

2001-02-22 Thread Lorenzo De Vito
I'm a new user of Linux on Powerpc , which kind differences I can find with Linux on Intel platforms, all packages I've used on PC I can use on my G3, how can I find compatible software? If I want update my Kernel I must use a specific for LinuxPPC ? Excuse me for my english and thank you.

Re: mozilla 0.8 from penguinppc and PSM

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 08:17:16AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > > even if export regulations are a problem that does not preclude > > properly merging the source in such a way that it can be distributed > > as an actual patch to the mozilla source tr

RE: Debian Potato on G4/AGP

2001-02-22 Thread Martin Svensson
Hm.. I have the same problem as you. I can't get the kernel to boot. yaboot boots fine, but when i run the kernel to install debian the system freezes homehow. When i downloaded yellowdoglinux and booted from their cd they have an option called install-novideo. That was a line in yaboot.conf under

Re: mozilla 0.8 from penguinppc and PSM

2001-02-22 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > even if export regulations are a problem that does not preclude > properly merging the source in such a way that it can be distributed > as an actual patch to the mozilla source tree, much in the same way as > the international kernel patch works. (the in